TD Loosing Power... sometimes !

Hi,
Well its a 1986 ex MOD 110 conversion with a 1989ish TD. The problem is
quite strange and started when I put the engine in.
When going up a hill with a left hand bend it would loose power until one
night it cut out and wouldn't go again.

I replaced the lift pump, blew all the lines clear, cleaned out the
sedimenter at the rear and it went again but would still loose a bit of
power occasionally. It could be ok for weeks and then do it all day long.

Its started go get worse in the last two days, I cleaned out the lines
again, checked the sedimenter again, drained the fuel filter, replaced the
engine stop switch (well you never know !) checked the lift pump that was
new 4 months ago and everything looks OK.

There is no excessive smoke (other than the normal TD stuff) its not
using ANY oil or water. When it cut out yesterday there was fuel in the
filter to the point where it came out with a lot of pressure when I checked
the water trap screw.

When its loosing power its normally over 50mph and can slow it down to
about 40mph, if you ease off the throttle it can sometimes make it surge in
power.

Has anyone had this sort of problem ?

Thanks
****ed off in Wales
__________________________________________________________________ Brenden
Bithell Rev ICQ#: 135322460 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
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Friend of mine has a VW Beetle that had an intermitent problem with the fuel
feed. In the end they decided that it had to be something like a speck of
paint that acted like a flap and under the correcct circumstances shut the
line to fuel. In the end he replaced the fuel lines and hey ho problem gone
??
Is it possible to run a temporary line from the tank to the pump and see if
the line is OK.
BTW he blew the line and much more.


"survivalschool" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Well its a 1986 ex MOD 110 conversion with a 1989ish TD. The problem
is
> quite strange and started when I put the engine in.
> When going up a hill with a left hand bend it would loose power until
one
> night it cut out and wouldn't go again.
>
> I replaced the lift pump, blew all the lines clear, cleaned out the
> sedimenter at the rear and it went again but would still loose a bit of
> power occasionally. It could be ok for weeks and then do it all day
long.
>
> Its started go get worse in the last two days, I cleaned out the lines
> again, checked the sedimenter again, drained the fuel filter, replaced the
> engine stop switch (well you never know !) checked the lift pump that was
> new 4 months ago and everything looks OK.
>
> There is no excessive smoke (other than the normal TD stuff) its not
> using ANY oil or water. When it cut out yesterday there was fuel in the
> filter to the point where it came out with a lot of pressure when I
checked
> the water trap screw.
>
> When its loosing power its normally over 50mph and can slow it down to
> about 40mph, if you ease off the throttle it can sometimes make it surge
in
> power.
>
> Has anyone had this sort of problem ?
>
> Thanks
> ****ed off in Wales
> __________________________________________________________________ Brenden
> Bithell Rev ICQ#: 135322460 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
> __________________________________________________________________
>
>

In message <[email protected]>, survivalschool
<[email protected]> writes
>Hi,
> Well its a 1986 ex MOD 110 conversion with a 1989ish TD. The problem is
>quite strange and started when I put the engine in.
> When going up a hill with a left hand bend it would loose power until one
>night it cut out and wouldn't go again.
>
> I replaced the lift pump, blew all the lines clear, cleaned out the
>sedimenter at the rear and it went again but would still loose a bit of
>power occasionally. It could be ok for weeks and then do it all day long.
>
> Its started go get worse in the last two days, I cleaned out the lines
>again, checked the sedimenter again, drained the fuel filter, replaced the
>engine stop switch (well you never know !) checked the lift pump that was
>new 4 months ago and everything looks OK.
>
> There is no excessive smoke (other than the normal TD stuff) its not
>using ANY oil or water. When it cut out yesterday there was fuel in the
>filter to the point where it came out with a lot of pressure when I checked
>the water trap screw.
>
> When its loosing power its normally over 50mph and can slow it down to
>about 40mph, if you ease off the throttle it can sometimes make it surge in
>power.
>
> Has anyone had this sort of problem ?
>
> Thanks
> ****ed off in Wales
>__________________________________________________________________ Brenden
>Bithell Rev ICQ#: 135322460 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
>__________________________________________________________________
>
>
Had a similar problem a long time ago on a series 11A turned out to be
one of the pinch bolts on the throttle linkage not tight enough.
Norm

survivalschool vaguely muttered something like ...

> Has anyone had this sort of problem ?

Very similar on my old S3 .. turned out that the new petrol tank we had
fitted by 'experts in Landrovers' hadn't been cleaned internally and all the
accumulated shelf dust and sundry crap was clogging the fuel pick-up filter
inside the tank. Cleaned it all off, swilled the tank out to clean it and
it was absolutely fine ..

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"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Very similar on my old S3 .. turned out that the new petrol tank we had
> fitted by 'experts in Landrovers' hadn't been cleaned internally and all
> the
> accumulated shelf dust and sundry crap was clogging the fuel pick-up
> filter
> inside the tank. Cleaned it all off, swilled the tank out to clean it and
> it was absolutely fine ..

Speaking of shelf dust ... I got a genuine parts inner wing for Alfie ,
ordered direct from Landrover.. Now given the state of the box I'm certain
it had been on the shelf since 1990. I've never seen branded dirt before.
Trust Landrover to think of everything. I've still got the box in the
garage.. It's like a status symbol.. look I bought a "genuine part" and it
cost a lorra lorra money.

Lee D

Lee_D vaguely muttered something like ...
> "Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Very similar on my old S3 .. turned out that the new petrol tank we had
>> fitted by 'experts in Landrovers' hadn't been cleaned internally and all
>> the
>> accumulated shelf dust and sundry crap was clogging the fuel pick-up
>> filter
>> inside the tank. Cleaned it all off, swilled the tank out to clean it
>> and it was absolutely fine ..
>
> Speaking of shelf dust ... I got a genuine parts inner wing for Alfie ,
> ordered direct from Landrover.. Now given the state of the box I'm certain
> it had been on the shelf since 1990. I've never seen branded dirt before.
> Trust Landrover to think of everything. I've still got the box in the
> garage.. It's like a status symbol.. look I bought a "genuine part" and it
> cost a lorra lorra money.

Is that like the branded mud packs they sell shogun drivers ?

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Lee_D wrote:
> "Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Very similar on my old S3 .. turned out that the new petrol tank we
>> had fitted by 'experts in Landrovers' hadn't been cleaned
internally
>> and all the
>> accumulated shelf dust and sundry crap was clogging the fuel
pick-up
>> filter
>> inside the tank. Cleaned it all off, swilled the tank out to clean
>> it and it was absolutely fine ..
>
> Speaking of shelf dust ... I got a genuine parts inner wing for
Alfie
> , ordered direct from Landrover.. Now given the state of the box I'm
> certain it had been on the shelf since 1990. I've never seen branded
> dirt before. Trust Landrover to think of everything. I've still got
> the box in the garage.. It's like a status symbol.. look I bought a
> "genuine part" and it cost a lorra lorra money.
>
> Lee D

That is precicely why parts cost a lot of money. They don't make those
old parts any more and a whole lot of them have to be kept on the
shelf for a very long time to ensure availability in the future.
Luckily, LR do take spares availability for obsolete models more
seriously than most. However, given the sad state of their finances,
either they will have to lower stocks or charge accordingly to cover
the stocking. Personally, I prefer to have parts available for a long
time to being told five years after production stops "sorry mate, that
parts no longer available. Search the scrappies. There are plenty of
old LR's there due to unavailability of critical parts"

Huw


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Lee_D wrote:
>
> Speaking of shelf dust ... I got a genuine parts inner wing for
Alfie
> , ordered direct from Landrover.. Now given the state of the box I'm
> certain it had been on the shelf since 1990.

Just had a look in uk.rec.cars.4x4 and a chap there says that Nissan
can't supply a drag link for a '92 Patrol. Compare and contrast! Be
proud.

Huw


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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:27:37 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Lee_D wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of shelf dust ... I got a genuine parts inner wing for
>Alfie
>> , ordered direct from Landrover.. Now given the state of the box I'm
>> certain it had been on the shelf since 1990.
>
>Just had a look in uk.rec.cars.4x4 and a chap there says that Nissan
>can't supply a drag link for a '92 Patrol. Compare and contrast! Be
>proud.
>
>Huw
>

Would the situation be reversed if you tried to do the same in
Australia or some other area where Patrols outnumber Landy's 10:1?



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