Tale of breakdown recovery

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Steve L

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We have just got back from a 2 week trip to South France and Spain. We left
the UK in a '96 Discovery 300 to escape a local game of golf that seemed to
be attracting some interest. I think it must have been the cam belt that
failed when we were just south of Paris travelling at 70mph when there was
a bang, clattering and copious amounts of smoke :-( Particularly
frustrating having just paid for a major service and a new set of tyres -
not to mention a full tank of diesel!

AA International recovery is the best £60 I ever spent! I phoned from the
hard shoulder of the A77 on a Sunday evening and a tow truck arrived in just
over half an hour. We were towed to a garage, taxied to a "local" hotel 50Km
away, and were back on the road in a brand new Renault Espace the next
morning after transferring all our luggage including bunk beds and 2
mattresses flat packed on the roof rack. We had the Espace for 2 weeks and
nearly 3000 Km. As 3 of our party of 6 flew home from Girona in Spain as
planned, we swapped it for a UK registered Laguna estate at midnight before
checking into a hotel in Calais for the ferry and final leg home the
following day. Other than fuel costs (which was considerably less than the
Disco), drinks in the hotel, and a tip for the taxi driver, we have not had
to pay a penny. We didn't get the chance for a day's off-roading in the
Pyrenees mountains as planned, but we did get air-con all the way, a
steering wheel on the correct side of the car, and the Discovery should, I
hope, live to fight another day.
Without this insurance it would have cost us many thousands of pounds, a
destroyed holiday for 6 people, and most significantly, at least 12 months
of cold shoulder and total silence treatment from my wife. (Mmm.... now
there's a thought...)

I was a RAC member of 10 continuous years and I am usually the first in the
queue to criticise and complain about the AA on principal. I only took their
insurance because they were easier to deal with and cheaper than anyone else
including the RAC, but I have to hand it to them, the AA were excellent, and
although it pains me to do so, I have to HIGHLY recommend their service,
with reservation, as I am yet to get the Discovery back (or the quote for
the cost of repairs....). They did make one or two minor mistakes such as an
incorrect ferry crossing date and vehicle exchange details on a confirmation
fax but these were quickly corrected when I pointed them out. I was
certainly not an easy situation for them to have to deal with, what with 6
passengers and their luggage, construction tools, and a house full of
furniture on board, the distances I was travelling, and the fact that I was
un-contactable for most of the time I was away (11 messages from them on my
mobile when I got within signal range). But, with my experience with their
service so far, I am confident that my Disco will arrive on the back of a
truck in the next few days.

Thank you AA, I shall be renewing my membership next year- despite you
probably not wanting me to.


(I Just thought I would share this with the forum - I hope nobody minds.)
I am not an agent, employee or have any other interest in the AA other than
ordinary membership.


 
On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:55:24 +0100, "Steve L"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>We have just got back from a 2 week trip to South France and Spain. We left
>the UK in a '96 Discovery 300 to escape a local game of golf that seemed to
>be attracting some interest. I think it must have been the cam belt that
>failed when we were just south of Paris travelling at 70mph when there was
>a bang, clattering and copious amounts of smoke :-( Particularly
>frustrating having just paid for a major service and a new set of tyres -
>not to mention a full tank of diesel!


hmmm. major service not including cambelt :-/

Wise after the event, I know, but I reckon this can't be said to often:

Cambelt is one of the things you *always* have to look into on any second
hand motor, I reckon, and if you can't find evidence that it's been changed
when it should have been or if it's due, then change it anyway. the costs
of not doing so can run into 4 figures - fingers crossed for yours but
typical results of a belt-failure at speed include trashed head, valves,
pistons and sometimes conrods. In such event, the sensible option is to
hunt a decent s/h engine, or a recon/new one if your funds will stand it.

and that applies to ANY motor which uses a cambelt. They have a limited
life, and you ignore this at your peril. The LR book used to say 72K miles,
but then again it also used to say 36K miles for "arduous conditions" - and
frankly, even if you get a main dealer to change it, the cost per mile
spread over 36K is trivial, even if it's a wallet-pain at the time.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell"
Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military
Academy, 19 June 1879.
 

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> Thank you AA, I shall be renewing my membership next year- despite you
> probably not wanting me to.
>
>
> (I Just thought I would share this with the forum - I hope nobody minds.)
> I am not an agent, employee or have any other interest in the AA other

than
> ordinary membership.
>
>


Unfortunately they won't accept a 12 seatr Defender !


 
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:33:32 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:55:24 +0100, "Steve L"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>We have just got back from a 2 week trip to South France and Spain. We left
>>the UK in a '96 Discovery 300 to escape a local game of golf that seemed to
>>be attracting some interest. I think it must have been the cam belt that
>>failed when we were just south of Paris travelling at 70mph when there was
>>a bang, clattering and copious amounts of smoke :-( Particularly
>>frustrating having just paid for a major service and a new set of tyres -
>>not to mention a full tank of diesel!

>
>hmmm. major service not including cambelt :-/
>
>Wise after the event, I know, but I reckon this can't be said to often:
>
>Cambelt is one of the things you *always* have to look into on any second
>hand motor, I reckon, and if you can't find evidence that it's been changed
>when it should have been or if it's due, then change it anyway. the costs
>of not doing so can run into 4 figures - fingers crossed for yours but
>typical results of a belt-failure at speed include trashed head, valves,
>pistons and sometimes conrods. In such event, the sensible option is to
>hunt a decent s/h engine, or a recon/new one if your funds will stand it.
>
>and that applies to ANY motor which uses a cambelt. They have a limited
>life, and you ignore this at your peril. The LR book used to say 72K miles,
>but then again it also used to say 36K miles for "arduous conditions" - and
>frankly, even if you get a main dealer to change it, the cost per mile
>spread over 36K is trivial, even if it's a wallet-pain at the time.


I normally change cambelts early as well. Having said that, I've
sorted out a few TDis for people with sanpped cambelts, and I've found
that generally the camblet failure just bends the pushrods as the
pistons hit the open valves and then as they are forced shut, they
retract into the head.

Overhead Cam engines do tend to destroy valves and heads because the
valves are directly connected to the cam and followers and hence
bendbend.
--

Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

ROT13 me....
 
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:06:14 +0100, Hirsty's <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>> Thank you AA, I shall be renewing my membership next year- despite you
>> probably not wanting me to.
>>
>>
>> (I Just thought I would share this with the forum - I hope nobody
>> minds.)
>> I am not an agent, employee or have any other interest in the AA other

> than
>> ordinary membership.
>>

>
> Unfortunately they won't accept a 12 seatr Defender !


What does that mean?

AIUI: The AA policy covers the person and the vehicle s/he is in/on.

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 


> > Unfortunately they won't accept a 12 seatr Defender !

>
> What does that mean?
>
> AIUI: The AA policy covers the person and the vehicle s/he is in/on.
>



Yes but who do I leave behind on the motorway when they cant all get in tow
truck.
I have LR Assistance at present and they get all home, trouble is they wont
cover vehicle over 10 years old so I am looking around at present for a new
one ( AA or whatever, not a new LR :-(( )


 
On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:47:37 GMT, "Hirsty's"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>
>> > Unfortunately they won't accept a 12 seatr Defender !

>>
>> What does that mean?
>>
>> AIUI: The AA policy covers the person and the vehicle s/he is in/on.
>>

>
>
>Yes but who do I leave behind on the motorway when they cant all get in tow
>truck.
>I have LR Assistance at present and they get all home, trouble is they wont
>cover vehicle over 10 years old so I am looking around at present for a new
>one ( AA or whatever, not a new LR :-(( )
>


green flag? No idea if they do what you want.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
 
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