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Mick

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I won't mention the word Freelander to much because I know you boys
frown on such words, but I don't believe the traction control is
working.
The viscous couple is fine, as I have drive to the rear axle, but only
one wheel of each axle will spin if I get it stuck.
The ABS is working fine.
Any ideas?

Mick
 
Hello, Mick!

Is it fitted (read activated in the ECU)? Don't assume it has it - I've
recovered more than my fair share of Freelanders that have no traction
control - it was a dealer option at one time...!

--
Neil


 
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:44:55 +0000 (UTC), "Neil Brownlee"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello, Mick!
>
>Is it fitted (read activated in the ECU)? Don't assume it has it - I've
>recovered more than my fair share of Freelanders that have no traction
>control - it was a dealer option at one time...!


Thanks for this Neil

Is thier any way that I can establish if it is fitted (activated).

Mick

 
Hello, Mick!

Hmmm - normal way - send me the chassis number - send it to
dmd@mud*gnu*-club.com (remove the *gnu*)

I'll check the build list for you.

Also, when you fire it up, it should light up all active systems - does the
(TC) light come on?

--
Neil


 
does the same go for P38a ? I have a m reg dt there doesnt seem to be a
diff lock of any kind so surely there must be TC ?


"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello, Mick!
>
> Hmmm - normal way - send me the chassis number - send it to
> dmd@mud*gnu*-club.com (remove the *gnu*)
>
> I'll check the build list for you.
>
> Also, when you fire it up, it should light up all active systems - does
> the
> (TC) light come on?
>
> --
> Neil
>
>



 
In <[email protected]> Mick wrote:
> I won't mention the word Freelander to much because I know you boys
> frown on such words, but I don't believe the traction control is
> working.
> The viscous couple is fine, as I have drive to the rear axle, but only
> one wheel of each axle will spin if I get it stuck.
> The ABS is working fine.
> Any ideas?


You don't tell us what year, so it's difficult to tell.

From my own experience the TC on Freelanders is crap even when it is
fitted. It only works when you are doing around 30 MPH (or the
equivalent with a wheel spiinning) before it does anything at all. To be
fair though when it does kick in it does work quite well. The only way
to get it to work off road is to go balls out, that way the TC wakes up
when it's supposed to.

I trialled a Freebie once (mine) and found that the only way of getting
it through a section was by travelling at a speed that made the,
normally sedate, trial look like a comp. safari. In this mode the TC
worked brilliantly and was actually quite impressive when it pulled
itself out of a cross axle hole that a couple of (none TC) Discos had
got themselves stuck in previously. I only did a couple of sections
though as it was likely to work out expensive if I continued.

If it's from a similar era as mine (1998) then it won't have TC unless
it's also got HDC - look for the daft yellow switch on the gear lever.

cheers

Dave W.
http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
 

"Dave White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> You don't tell us what year, so it's difficult to tell.


Its December 2000. It has got a TC light which comes on when you fire it up.

>It only works when you are doing around 30 MPH (or the
> equivalent with a wheel spiinning) before it does anything at all.


Well this probably explains why I recon it don't work. If trying to get up
a slippery slope isn't going to wake the TC up, then i'm buggered if I know
what use it is. I wasn't going to get crap plastered all up the side by
reving it because its a hair dressers car isn't it! <LOL> In my case, its a
school bus and shopping trolly:) Recon i'll stick to getting my 300Tdi
Disco Commercial plastered across a ploughed field. No TC their, but never
seem to need it!

Mick


 

"Mick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > You don't tell us what year, so it's difficult to tell.

>
> Its December 2000. It has got a TC light which comes on when you fire it

up.
>
> >It only works when you are doing around 30 MPH (or the
> > equivalent with a wheel spiinning) before it does anything at all.

>
> Well this probably explains why I recon it don't work. If trying to get

up
> a slippery slope isn't going to wake the TC up, then i'm buggered if I

know
> what use it is. I wasn't going to get crap plastered all up the side by
> reving it because its a hair dressers car isn't it! <LOL> In my case, its

a
> school bus and shopping trolly:) Recon i'll stick to getting my 300Tdi
> Disco Commercial plastered across a ploughed field. No TC their, but

never
> seem to need it!
>
> Mick


I know my rangie makes a noise like a school wooden ruler being twanged on
the desk when trac control is doing its thing

Si


 
To test your TC find a hill (on road or off road) that is covered in snow,
ice or wet grass, doesn't need to be to steep. Point your freeloader up it.
Make as though you are going to do a wheelspin (about 2500-3000 rpm in wifes
Td4) and pull the clutch in quite sharpish. You should get a teeny bit of
wheelspin which will quickly halt. The orange 'TC' light should come on.
Once activated the light remains on for 2 or 3 seconds after TC is
deactivated.
I agree that on a Freeloader the TC is crap at low speed. TC will not work
if you slip the clutch, which is often what you have to do when offroading a
Freeloader due to the lack of a low box. I got my wife Td4 stuck in a
smallish hole on an unsurfaced road whilst reversing. Because I was going so
slowly and slipping the clutch the TC did bugger all and I had to pull out
forwards and retry again with momentum.

Cheers, Stew.

--

1990 LR Ninety 2.5D N/A (Jasmine) with bits on!
2002 Freelander Td4 ES (wifes)


"Dave White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In <[email protected]> Mick wrote:
>> I won't mention the word Freelander to much because I know you boys
>> frown on such words, but I don't believe the traction control is
>> working.
>> The viscous couple is fine, as I have drive to the rear axle, but only
>> one wheel of each axle will spin if I get it stuck.
>> The ABS is working fine.
>> Any ideas?

>
> You don't tell us what year, so it's difficult to tell.
>
> From my own experience the TC on Freelanders is crap even when it is
> fitted. It only works when you are doing around 30 MPH (or the
> equivalent with a wheel spiinning) before it does anything at all. To be
> fair though when it does kick in it does work quite well. The only way
> to get it to work off road is to go balls out, that way the TC wakes up
> when it's supposed to.
>
> I trialled a Freebie once (mine) and found that the only way of getting
> it through a section was by travelling at a speed that made the,
> normally sedate, trial look like a comp. safari. In this mode the TC
> worked brilliantly and was actually quite impressive when it pulled
> itself out of a cross axle hole that a couple of (none TC) Discos had
> got themselves stuck in previously. I only did a couple of sections
> though as it was likely to work out expensive if I continued.
>
> If it's from a similar era as mine (1998) then it won't have TC unless
> it's also got HDC - look for the daft yellow switch on the gear lever.
>
> cheers
>
> Dave W.
> http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/



 
> To test your TC find a hill (on road or off road) that is covered in snow,
> ice or wet grass, doesn't need to be to steep.


That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a) snow, (b)
ice or even (c) wet grass?

We're in a drought!

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8 (with TC)


 
You do get sand and gravel, you have grass, you have a hosepipe and taps.
Work it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stew.

--

1990 LR Ninety 2.5D N/A (Jasmine) with bits on!
2002 Freelander Td4 ES (wifes)


"The Becketts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> To test your TC find a hill (on road or off road) that is covered in
>> snow,
>> ice or wet grass, doesn't need to be to steep.

>
> That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a) snow,
> (b)
> ice or even (c) wet grass?
>
> We're in a drought!
>
> Ron Beckett
> Emu Plains, Australia
> 1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8 (with TC)
>
>



 
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:57:33 +1100, The Becketts wrote:

> That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a)
> snow, (b) ice or even


Around the ski resorts in the SE mountain ranges? Though probably not
in the summer, like now... B-)

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
On or around Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:57:33 +1100, "The Becketts"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a) snow,


in the snowy mountains, I assume.

 
Water restrictions mean we can't use our hosepipes anymore. $220 fine.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"90ninety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You do get sand and gravel, you have grass, you have a hosepipe and taps.
> Work it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Stew.
>
> --
>
> 1990 LR Ninety 2.5D N/A (Jasmine) with bits on!
> 2002 Freelander Td4 ES (wifes)
>
>
> "The Becketts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> To test your TC find a hill (on road or off road) that is covered in
> >> snow,
> >> ice or wet grass, doesn't need to be to steep.

> >
> > That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a) snow,
> > (b)
> > ice or even (c) wet grass?
> >
> > We're in a drought!
> >
> > Ron Beckett
> > Emu Plains, Australia
> > 1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8 (with TC)
> >
> >

>
>



 
Heck, that's 7 months and 500km away!

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:57:33 +1100, The Becketts wrote:
>
> > That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a)
> > snow, (b) ice or even

>
> Around the ski resorts in the SE mountain ranges? Though probably not
> in the summer, like now... B-)
>
> --
> Cheers [email protected]
> Dave. pam is missing e-mail
>
>
>



 
But not until mid-winter and that's a long way off. And so are the Snowy
Mountains

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:57:33 +1100, "The Becketts"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a) snow,

>
> in the snowy mountains, I assume.
>



 
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:36:41 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:57:33 +1100, The Becketts wrote:
>
>> That's all very well for you to say! But where do we in Oz get (a)
>> snow, (b) ice or even

>
>Around the ski resorts in the SE mountain ranges? Though probably not
>in the summer, like now... B-)


I've seen ice and snow in the Victoria Alps in February. I have a
photo somewhere - the first time my sister (then 14) had seen snow,
having grown up in Malaysia and Melbourne.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:23:28 +1100, The Becketts wrote:

> Heck, that's 7 months and 500km away!


7 months is a while but I thought 500 clicks was not much more than a
day trip to an Ozzy? B-)

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
You're right. But I'm going north not south on Friday. Besides, it's been 42
deg C around here lately

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:23:28 +1100, The Becketts wrote:
>
> > Heck, that's 7 months and 500km away!

>
> 7 months is a while but I thought 500 clicks was not much more than a
> day trip to an Ozzy? B-)
>
> --
> Cheers [email protected]
> Dave. pam is missing e-mail
>
>
>



 
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