Strange noise, and smoke

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theGreatestDancer

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Hi guys, recently had my 90 serviced, it's a 300tdi model but seems to have been fitted with a 200tdi engine and gearbox.

Since it's been serviced the engine sounds a lot more rattly, and I smell smoke in the interior a lot. On the first drive after the service the oil light would flicker at idle but disappear under revs. Although now the oil light is always off.

The rattling was so much I parked up after a 15 minute drive and recorded this video under the bonnet. What is that thing exhausting smoke / steam? Is that right?

Thanks for your advice. I understand cars and engines (a bit) but don't have much knowledge of Defenders.

 
theGreatestDancer said:
Hi guys, recently had my 90 serviced, it's a 300tdi model but seems to have been fitted with a 200tdi engine and gearbox.

Since it's been serviced the engine sounds a lot more rattly, and I smell smoke in the interior a lot. On the first drive after the service the oil light would flicker at idle but disappear under revs. Although now the oil light is always off.

The rattling was so much I parked up after a 15 minute drive and recorded this video under the bonnet. What is that thing exhausting smoke / steam? Is that right?

Thanks for your advice. I understand cars and engines (a bit) but don't have much knowledge of Defenders.

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When you say "serviced", do you have any idea what was actually done?
A decent garage should give you an itemised invoice of parts and labour.
And they should also keep the old parts of anything they have changed to show you, although you may have to ask them to do that.

I think the tube where the smoke/vapour is emerging is coming from the crankcase.
I also think it likely that the garage have used thin synthetic oil, which 200Tdi don't like.
You may have a blown head gasket, or it may be blowing past the pistons and pressurising the crankcase.
 
theGreatestDancer said:
Hi guys, recently had my 90 serviced, it's a 300tdi model but seems to have been fitted with a 200tdi engine and gearbox.

Since it's been serviced the engine sounds a lot more rattly, and I smell smoke in the interior a lot. On the first drive after the service the oil light would flicker at idle but disappear under revs. Although now the oil light is always off.

The rattling was so much I parked up after a 15 minute drive and recorded this video under the bonnet. What is that thing exhausting smoke / steam? Is that right?

Thanks for your advice. I understand cars and engines (a bit) but don't have much knowledge of Defenders.

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Forgot. You also have the wrong air filter. Those cone filters aren't much good.
 
That blue thing is a home made oil catcher, fitted because engine is a "heavy breather" oil and perhaps coolant getting into combustion chamber. Plus one on possible head gasket blown.
The normal set up is for the pipe going to blue thing to join into the air pipe going to the turbo, any oil mist gets burnt in combustion. Do not do this with yours with it breathing like that possible engine runaway situation.
Hate those so called "performance air filters" sucking hot air in the engine bay, and in off road use they soon clock with dust that swirls in engine bay.
When engine is sorted fit an original air box.
 
That thing is an aftermarket oil vapour separator, they generally have to small a bore to work on larger engine, ie they are crap.

As other have said check what oil the garage used
I assume you have checked the oil level? be aware it can take hours for the oil to settle in them, leave overnight is best for an accurate reading

Is that fuel filter new?
 
Thanks all, this is great advice. The work was done by a local independent guy who works from home but does have a good reputation with LRs. I provided the oil and filters, but did get them as an official Defender service kit from eurocarparts so hope it was the right grade oil (!?) Great advice on the airbox I will try getting that changed.

My problem is that right now my job is full on so I have about 5 minutes a week to think about this sort of stuff. Yes probably have got the wrong vehicle, but I won't give it up!!

One consolation is that it (normally) pulls really strongly, my brother in law has driven it, he has a 110 TD5 and reckons my 200tdi is much quicker. So maybe the air filter is doing something good?! (previous owner I think did quite a lot to it, panels are from at least 3 different vehicles, and it's a 200tdi engine / gearbox in a 300tid model but hey).

Thanks all
 
theGreatestDancer said:
Thanks all, this is great advice. The work was done by a local independent guy who works from home but does have a good reputation with LRs. I provided the oil and filters, but did get them as an official Defender service kit from eurocarparts so hope it was the right grade oil (!?) Great advice on the airbox I will try getting that changed.

My problem is that right now my job is full on so I have about 5 minutes a week to think about this sort of stuff. Yes probably have got the wrong vehicle, but I won't give it up!!

One consolation is that it (normally) pulls really strongly, my brother in law has driven it, he has a 110 TD5 and reckons my 200tdi is much quicker. So maybe the air filter is doing something good?! (previous owner I think did quite a lot to it, panels are from at least 3 different vehicles, and it's a 200tdi engine / gearbox in a 300tid model but hey).

Thanks all
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So what grade of oil was it?
 
just checked, looks bob on to me. Although I did notice quite a bit of oil against the side of the water bottle, and sat on top of the chassis down low.

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theGreatestDancer said:
oh ok, dare I ask what the ££ damage / rectification work might be if that's the case?
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Not a very difficult job. As the garage appear to be innocent, you could take it there.
Make sure they use a quality gasket, I would think half a days labour, maybe a bit more if they find issues during the removal.
It is usually much better to do these jobs yourself, or the costs add up, Landrovers are known for regular minor issues.
 
Get engine warm the undo oil filler cap and loosely place it in its hole, if it bobbles about all is okay, if it flies off you have excessive crankcase pressure, and that oil catch tank wont be helping either.
Did the guy check the tappets on the service?
 
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