Steering Box - HELP! - Calling Beamends!!

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puffernutter

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• Mar 16, 2006

• #1

1990 110TD CSW (19J engine)

I was doing the steering box tonight.

Two problems!

1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and

2. More importantly the nut from the old steering box output shaft is a
different thread to the new steering box output shaft!

I need to use the car Saturday!! (The old steering box is too far gone,
so I can't fit that back on.)

Suggestions please?

What is the thread of the output shaft of the new steering box? I may be
able to get a nut made locally.

Cheers

Peter

 

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Jack

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #2

"puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 1990 110TD CSW (19J engine)
>
> I was doing the steering box tonight.
>
> Two problems!
>
> 1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and
>
> 2. More importantly the nut from the old steering box output shaft is a
> different thread to the new steering box output shaft!
>
> I need to use the car Saturday!! (The old steering box is too far gone, so
> I can't fit that back on.)
>
> Suggestions please?
>
> What is the thread of the output shaft of the new steering box? I may be
> able to get a nut made locally.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter

Peter:

Contact the distributor. New boxes typically come with a new nut, even
remanufactured boxes for that matter. As for the drop arm use a puller. I
used a 2 - gear design, else, place the box in a vise and using two pry bars
equally apply pressure to release the arm.

Jack

 

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puffernutter

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #3

Jack wrote:
> "puffernutter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>1990 110TD CSW (19J engine)
>>
>>I was doing the steering box tonight.
>>
>>Two problems!
>>
>>1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and
>>
>>2. More importantly the nut from the old steering box output shaft is a
>>different thread to the new steering box output shaft!
>>
<snip>

>>Cheers
>>
>>Peter
>
>
> Peter:
>
> Contact the distributor. New boxes typically come with a new nut, even
> remanufactured boxes for that matter. As for the drop arm use a puller. I
> used a 2 - gear design, else, place the box in a vise and using two pry bars
> equally apply pressure to release the arm.
>
> Jack
>
>
Jack,

Thanks.

I'll get a puller from Machine Mart today, mind you a tapered splined
shaft is potentially going to be fun to remove - I've already broken a
Machine Mart ball joint splitter in getting the drop arm ball joint out!

The nut is the bigger problem. I have checked all the packaging and
there is nothing in there. It threads all the way down the old output
shaft with no problems, on the new steering box it gets about a nut's
width on and gets very still, so whilst there is protective paint on the
threads it feels more like a wrong thread that jamming on paint.

The fun's going to be getting another nut today when I have to be at
work and I must have the car on the road tomorrow as I have a miniature
railway to run and stock to take down there!

Cheers

Peter

 

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beamendsltd

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #4

In message <[email protected]>
puffernutter <[email protected]> wrote:

> 1990 110TD CSW (19J engine)
>
> I was doing the steering box tonight.
>
> Two problems!
>
> 1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and

That's a right bugger - can you find something like a truck repairers
or serious workshop with a decent puller (even the LR tool is known
to break trying to get them off!). You try heating it, but whatever
you do don't do anything to damage the splines and/or thread.

>
> 2. More importantly the nut from the old steering box output shaft is a
> different thread to the new steering box output shaft!

No problem - I'll put one in the post.

>
> I need to use the car Saturday!! (The old steering box is too far gone,
> so I can't fit that back on.)
>
> Suggestions please?
>
> What is the thread of the output shaft of the new steering box? I may be
> able to get a nut made locally.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter

Richard

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Marc Draper

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #5

>
>1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and


I have the genuine Landrover tool for the job and some time that
struggles. A machine mart puller might not be man enough.



--
Marc Draper

 

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puffernutter

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #6

Marc Draper wrote:
>
>
>>
>> 1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and
>
>
>
> I have the genuine Landrover tool for the job and some time that
> struggles. A machine mart puller might not be man enough.
>
>
>
My youngest son took it down to the local LR garage (not a dealer) he
got it off in seconds apparently!

Cheers

Peter

 

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jOn

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #7

"Marc Draper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>
>>1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and
>
>
> I have the genuine Landrover tool for the job and some time that
> struggles. A machine mart puller might not be man enough.

I've done 2 with the box out on the floor, good smack with a lump hammer and
they flew off
--
Jon

 

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puffernutter

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #8

jOn wrote:
> "Marc Draper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>>1. I can't get the drop arm off the old steering box; and
>>
>>
>>I have the genuine Landrover tool for the job and some time that
>>struggles. A machine mart puller might not be man enough.
>
>
OK, it's all back together, no leaks, centralised and the indicator
cancel works nicely.

But.....

The steering feels very light now (very little effort to turn the car).

Do I assume that the old box was probably leaking for a while and thus
its "power" was reduced?

Cheers

Peter

 

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Dougal

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #9

puffernutter wrote:

> But.....
>
> The steering feels very light now (very little effort to turn the car).

Some people are never satisfied !!

 

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puffernutter

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• Mar 17, 2006

• #10

Dougal wrote:
> puffernutter wrote:
>
>> But.....
>>
>> The steering feels very light now (very little effort to turn the car).
>
>
> Some people are never satisfied !!


Oh I'm satisfied, but should I be worried?

Thursday the steering box, next Saturday the clutch!!

Cheers

Peter

 

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beamendsltd

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• Mar 18, 2006

• #11

In message <[email protected]>
puffernutter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dougal wrote:
> > puffernutter wrote:
> >
> >> But.....
> >>
> >> The steering feels very light now (very little effort to turn the car).
> >
> >
> > Some people are never satisfied !!
>
>
> Oh I'm satisfied, but should I be worried?

Not at all - you should be able to turn the wheel with the palm
of your hand - practically with one finger! I remember when I bought
the 110, after a whole range of Series motors ending with Red October
(Stage 1 V8) I set off down the road zig-zagging, having gone into
automatic "Series steeing" mode.......

>
> Thursday the steering box, next Saturday the clutch!!

Now that *is* fun ;-)

>
> Cheers
>
> Peter

Richard

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puffernutter

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• Mar 18, 2006

• #12

beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> puffernutter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Dougal wrote:
>>
>>>puffernutter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>But.....
>>>>
>>>>The steering feels very light now (very little effort to turn the car).
>>>
>>>
>>>Some people are never satisfied !!
>>
>>
>>Oh I'm satisfied, but should I be worried?
>
>
> Not at all - you should be able to turn the wheel with the palm
> of your hand - practically with one finger! I remember when I bought
> the 110, after a whole range of Series motors ending with Red October
> (Stage 1 V8) I set off down the road zig-zagging, having gone into
> automatic "Series steeing" mode.......
>
>
>>Thursday the steering box, next Saturday the clutch!!
>
>
> Now that *is* fun ;-)
>
>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Peter
>
>
> Richard
>
Richard,

It arrived this morning and it was the right nut.

Many thanks

Peter