SRS LIGHT STUCK ON PLEASE HELP

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I Want to disconnect the SRS Air Bag System in my 96 300 TDI Land Rover
Discovery. I have never had one in any of my other cars and Feel I Will
not require it. How do I go about disconnecting it to get rid of the
dash light without doing any damage or setting it off. Registration is
comming up soon and I dont want to fail all because of a little red
light. All help appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 
andy wrote:

|| I Want to disconnect the SRS Air Bag System in my 96 300 TDI Land
|| Rover Discovery. I have never had one in any of my other cars and
|| Feel I Will not require it. How do I go about disconnecting it to
|| get rid of the dash light without doing any damage or setting it
|| off. Registration is comming up soon and I dont want to fail all
|| because of a little red light. All help appreciated. Thanks in
|| advance.

Check with your insurers first - disabling what the manufacturers consider a
safety system may well invalidate your policy.

--
Rich
==============================

I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.


 
andy wrote:
> I Want to disconnect the SRS Air Bag System in my 96 300 TDI Land Rover
> Discovery. I have never had one in any of my other cars and Feel I Will
> not require it. How do I go about disconnecting it to get rid of the
> dash light without doing any damage or setting it off. Registration is
> comming up soon and I dont want to fail all because of a little red
> light. All help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>

I'm assuming you are from Australia. I believe that they check that the
SRS system passes diagnostics - so unless the light comes on and then
extinguishes in the normal manner you're going to have to repair it.

--
EMB
 
On or around Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:25:12 +1200, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>andy wrote:
>> I Want to disconnect the SRS Air Bag System in my 96 300 TDI Land Rover
>> Discovery. I have never had one in any of my other cars and Feel I Will
>> not require it. How do I go about disconnecting it to get rid of the
>> dash light without doing any damage or setting it off. Registration is
>> comming up soon and I dont want to fail all because of a little red
>> light. All help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>I'm assuming you are from Australia. I believe that they check that the
>SRS system passes diagnostics - so unless the light comes on and then
>extinguishes in the normal manner you're going to have to repair it.

you could make a simple little timer and wire the light up to that instead
of what it's meant to be wired to...

BTW, that's not the answer. get it fixed properly.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Too Busy: Your mind is like a motorway. Sometimes it can be jammed by
too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> you could make a simple little timer and wire the light up to that instead
> of what it's meant to be wired to...
>
> BTW, that's not the answer. get it fixed properly.

You're not the first person to have thought of that Austin - I've failed
a fair few vehicles for their WOF (MOT equivalent) that have been
dodgied up like that.


--
EMB
 
I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
DONT WANT TO FIX IT.

 
andy wrote:
> I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
> dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
> that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
> to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
> of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
> DONT WANT TO FIX IT.

It's ****wits like you that get the rest of us responsible vehicle
owners a bad name. You may find some answers at the link below

http://www.****wit.info/whatis.htm

--
EMB
 
Your the only ****wit, I only asked a simple question but obvouisly it
was to hard for a simpleton like you to answer. You sound like and
arogant dip ****. Don't bother replying unless you have some
constuctive comments as hard as it may be for you.

 
andy wrote:
> I Want to disconnect the SRS Air Bag System in my 96 300 TDI Land Rover
> Discovery. I have never had one in any of my other cars and Feel I Will
> not require it. How do I go about disconnecting it to get rid of the
> dash light without doing any damage or setting it off. Registration is
> comming up soon and I dont want to fail all because of a little red
> light. All help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>

You probably can't without a lot of effort- they'll check for the light
coming on and going off at test, and the things are controlled from
elements of your ECU I expect.

Steve
 
On or around Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:04:43 +1200, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> you could make a simple little timer and wire the light up to that instead
>> of what it's meant to be wired to...
>>
>> BTW, that's not the answer. get it fixed properly.
>
>You're not the first person to have thought of that Austin - I've failed
>a fair few vehicles for their WOF (MOT equivalent) that have been
>dodgied up like that.

but how would you know, if the light behaves as it should?
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
On or around 17 Aug 2006 23:38:54 -0700, "andy"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Your the only ****wit, I only asked a simple question but obvouisly it
>was to hard for a simpleton like you to answer. You sound like and
>arogant dip ****. Don't bother replying unless you have some
>constuctive comments as hard as it may be for you.

actually, your question implies that you use the vehicle with no insurance
and you want to disable the SRS warning light in order to pass the vehicle
test fraudulently, which, if true, seems to me pretty damn' close to
****withood.

now, you may have good and genuine reason to disable it (you intend using
the vehicle for off-road trials, for example) but in that case, you don't
have to worry about registration and testing, just pull the ****ing bulb and
be done with it.

However, if you want to disable it to cheat your way through a vehicle test,
you can't exactly expect everyone to tell you how. There are obvious ways,
such as I suggested. They're very likely illegal. You say you don't have
insurance - not knowing where you live, it's possible that you don't have to
have insurance; but in the UK for example it's illegal to use a vehicle on
the road without and if you disable the SRS knowingly and your insurers find
out your cover could well be invalid.


Now, if it's all legit, why not say so in sufficient detail (how long's it
take to type a few sentences?) so that there's no question in anyone's mind?
and if it's not, quit slagging people off...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world
of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> but how would you know, if the light behaves as it should?

The timing of it is never quite right.... and the vehicles often just
don't "feel right" if you know what i mean.


--
EMB
 
On or around 17 Aug 2006 16:38:02 -0700, "andy"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
>dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
>that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
>to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
>of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
>DONT WANT TO FIX IT.

how do you avoid insurance... or is it not used on-road.

is there compulsory insurance in oz?


however there's no simple solution - I imagine the SRS light has a self-test
mode same as the ABS ones do, and to pass the test the behaviour of the
light has to match what the tester's list says it should do, so if for
example it should come on for 3 seconds when the ignition is turned on and
then go off, it won't pass unless it does.

I daresay there's an approved method for removing and decommissioning the
SRS system, but I don't know what it is.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
>
> I daresay there's an approved method for removing and decommissioning the
> SRS system, but I don't know what it is.

AFAIK the Aussie regulations mean that if it left the factory with SRS
then the SRS must be operative for it to be road legal.


--
EMB
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around 17 Aug 2006 16:38:02 -0700, "andy"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
>>dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
>>that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
>>to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
>>of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
>>DONT WANT TO FIX IT.
>
>
> how do you avoid insurance... or is it not used on-road.
>

Maybe he has deposited £500,000 with the Paymaster General?

Stuart
 
andy wrote:
> I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
> dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
> that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
> to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
> of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
> DONT WANT TO FIX IT.
>

I installed instrument cluster from other Disco with SRS and got the
same annoyance with it. I dismantled tach and took bulbs out.
Normal warning bulbs will light, when something goes wrong. This one
works vice versa. It waits OK signal from ECU to turn itself out

Kalev
 
On or around Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:09:44 +0200, Srtgray
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around 17 Aug 2006 16:38:02 -0700, "andy"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>
>>>I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
>>>dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
>>>that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
>>>to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
>>>of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
>>>DONT WANT TO FIX IT.
>>
>>
>> how do you avoid insurance... or is it not used on-road.
>>
>
>Maybe he has deposited £500,000 with the Paymaster General?
>

If he's in the UK. I found that the other day, was surprised that it's
still in the legislation.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 
On or around Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:02:39 +0300, Kalev Kadak <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>andy wrote:
>> I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected. I
>> dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to make
>> that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please. If I have
>> to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the bloody thing
>> of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the situation please. I
>> DONT WANT TO FIX IT.
>>
>
>I installed instrument cluster from other Disco with SRS and got the
>same annoyance with it. I dismantled tach and took bulbs out.
>Normal warning bulbs will light, when something goes wrong. This one
>works vice versa. It waits OK signal from ECU to turn itself out

yeah, well, if the reason you have an SRS light is that you've fitted a
different dash panel, but there's no SRS on the vehicle, then fine, remove
the bulb.

The OP gives the impression that the vehicle has SRS, it's faulty (or the
ECU is, and giving a false fail signal) and he wants to make it so it'll
pass the test without fixing it.

We still don't know where he's located - it might be legal to remove the SRS
- I'm not sure even in the UK whether it's mandatory and if so at what year;
it's not something I've bothered to look up as none of my vehicles are new
enough to have it. There are a number of things on vehicles which were
optional when new but have to work "if fitted" for the test - some of them
later became mandatory and disabling them after a certain year is illegal.
Indicators on motorbikes spring to mind - mine is 1974 and the indicators
(and the switch) have been removed and it's perfectly legal like that,
although if it had indicators they'd be required to work and it'd fail the
test if they didn't. however (in the UK) after 1986 or 87 sometime the
indicators are mandatory and you're not allowed to remove them.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Remember that to change your mind and follow him who sets you right
is to be none the less free than you were before."
Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121-180), from Meditations, VIII.16
 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:02:39 +0300, Kalev Kadak
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> andy wrote:
>>> I don't have insurance so it does not matter if it is disconnected.
>>> I dont want SRS How do I disconnect is there a fuse or something to
>>> make that light go out. A simple answer is all I am after please.
>>> If I have to pull the dash apart so be it. I don't want to set the
>>> bloody thing of thats all. Can anyone shed some light on the
>>> situation please. I DONT WANT TO FIX IT.
>>>
>>
>> I installed instrument cluster from other Disco with SRS and got the
>> same annoyance with it. I dismantled tach and took bulbs out.
>> Normal warning bulbs will light, when something goes wrong. This one
>> works vice versa. It waits OK signal from ECU to turn itself out
>
> yeah, well, if the reason you have an SRS light is that you've fitted
> a different dash panel, but there's no SRS on the vehicle, then fine,
> remove the bulb.
>
> The OP gives the impression that the vehicle has SRS, it's faulty (or
> the ECU is, and giving a false fail signal) and he wants to make it
> so it'll pass the test without fixing it.
>
> We still don't know where he's located - it might be legal to remove
> the SRS - I'm not sure even in the UK whether it's mandatory and if
> so at what year; it's not something I've bothered to look up as none
> of my vehicles are new enough to have it. There are a number of
> things on vehicles which were optional when new but have to work "if
> fitted" for the test - some of them later became mandatory and
> disabling them after a certain year is illegal. Indicators on
> motorbikes spring to mind - mine is 1974 and the indicators (and the
> switch) have been removed and it's perfectly legal like that,
> although if it had indicators they'd be required to work and it'd
> fail the test if they didn't. however (in the UK) after 1986 or 87
> sometime the indicators are mandatory and you're not allowed to
> remove them.

SRS has never been part of the MOT test I do know this for certain
as when I did the training I asked the bloke if the light being on was
a failure (due to an incident a couple of week earlier with sis's BMW)
his answer was a definite NO
an advise maybe but not a fail

--
Andy

SWB Series 2a ( dressed as a 3) "Bruce"
It's big, it's mean it's really, really green


 
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:17:25 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:09:44 +0200, Srtgray
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>> ...
>> deposited £500,000 with the Paymaster General?
>
> If he's in the UK. I found that the other day, was surprised that it's
> still in the legislation.

Vehicles owned by the crown enjoy this system

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 
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