Sound proofing a 2A diesel!

Just done a search for sound proofing and found some interesting stuff like
the BJ Acoustics kits. These look very nice but pricey and it seems the fit
may be a bit suspect? Any other opinions on these? I was interested in there
'Sound Barrier' kit at over £200 (ouch) but seeing if they would do one with
out the lead lined bonnet. I've heard these do very little, at least on a
TDi Defender anyway.
Never thought much of 'felt' kits - other than the water problems, I had one
for a mini and it didn't seem to make ANY noticeable difference!
Woolies Trim do some nice roles of sound proofing, again a touch expensive
at the top end of the price range - over £20 per Sq meter!
I've nearly done 500 miles since new rings, big end shells and
reconditioning the head but the noise over 50mph is scaring potential girl
friends away! I *need* to get this sorted!!
Thanks! Toby

"TVS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just done a search for sound proofing and found some interesting stuff
> like
> the BJ Acoustics kits. These look very nice but pricey and it seems the
> fit
> may be a bit suspect? Any other opinions on these? I was interested in
> there
> 'Sound Barrier' kit at over £200 (ouch) but seeing if they would do one
> with
> out the lead lined bonnet. I've heard these do very little, at least on a
> TDi Defender anyway.
> Never thought much of 'felt' kits - other than the water problems, I had
> one
> for a mini and it didn't seem to make ANY noticeable difference!
> Woolies Trim do some nice roles of sound proofing, again a touch expensive
> at the top end of the price range - over £20 per Sq meter!
> I've nearly done 500 miles since new rings, big end shells and
> reconditioning the head but the noise over 50mph is scaring potential girl
> friends away! I *need* to get this sorted!!
> Thanks! Toby
>
>

Don't bother. Stick to 40 and you will live longer. Besides which, that kind
of girlfriend is probably not worth having ;-)

Huw

In article <[email protected]>, TVS
<[email protected]> writes

>I've nearly done 500 miles since new rings, big end shells and
>reconditioning the head but the noise over 50mph is scaring potential girl
>friends away! I *need* to get this sorted!!

The problem with dampening vibration is that you need mass in the right
places. Lead does it! There's no quick/inexpensive fix. Mind you, I
wouldn't want to work under a lead-lined bonnet, chocks or otherwise.

Compare with hi-fi loudspeakers. You can have good, or loud, but rarely
both. This is because stopping unwanted resonances (vibrations) in the
speaker soaks up energy*.

The noise is inherent in the design of the vehicle. You can modify it,
and reduce it a bit, but eliminating it would be very hard.

Upgrade to a Series II girlfriend - you know it makes sense!

Regards,

Simonm.

*I know there are other approaches, but they're not relevant here.
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I bought a kit to do mine with (2.5 diesel). I think it cost about
£150 quid.
It has made a bit of difference. It cut out the worst of the diesel
rattle, and i just have a sorta background roar now.
It made it possible to talk rather than shout when i was moving, but
it is by no means quiet now!
Unfortunately i now have a very noisy exhaust which has kinda made the
soundproofing pointless! (may sort that in a few months)

It came with bits for the underside of the bonnet, and then the
bulkhead, floors transmission tunnel and seatbox. I havent yet fitted
the seatbox bits, but i think that when i do they will make a fiar bit
of difference.

Its made of some funny stuff which has a layer of aluminium in the
middle. I think its the same as the stuff that woolies trim sell.

Youre welcome to come over and have a look at it and see if you can
hear the difference. I still have some bits that are off the car if
you want to look at the mterial itself. But ita a bit of a pointless
test with my exhaust like it is at the mo!.

Toby Hi,

May I suggest you contact Steve at www.noisekiller.co.uk ?

his direct e-mail address is his name with small letters AT
noisekiller.co.uk

Tell him Pantelis from Greece has given you his e-mail address.

I am the distributor of noisekiller soundproofing kits for Greece so there
is a connection with them, but their kits work extremely well on Discos,
Range Rover Classic and Defender vehicles.

Take care and Merry Xmas
Pantelis Giamarellos
LAND ROVER CLUB OF GREECE


"TVS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just done a search for sound proofing and found some interesting stuff
like
> the BJ Acoustics kits. These look very nice but pricey and it seems the
fit
> may be a bit suspect? Any other opinions on these? I was interested in
there
> 'Sound Barrier' kit at over £200 (ouch) but seeing if they would do one
with
> out the lead lined bonnet. I've heard these do very little, at least on a
> TDi Defender anyway.
> Never thought much of 'felt' kits - other than the water problems, I had
one
> for a mini and it didn't seem to make ANY noticeable difference!
> Woolies Trim do some nice roles of sound proofing, again a touch expensive
> at the top end of the price range - over £20 per Sq meter!
> I've nearly done 500 miles since new rings, big end shells and
> reconditioning the head but the noise over 50mph is scaring potential girl
> friends away! I *need* to get this sorted!!
> Thanks! Toby
>
>

Yep a bit of matting over the transmission tunnel does make some difference.
I used the old carpet from the back after I had replaced all that with
carpet squares.


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Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:03:10 -0000, "TVS" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I once bought a lead engine blanket that goes over the top of the
> engine and down between the engine and bulkhead. made exactly zero
> difference.
> I recently cut-up and put some soft rubber car mats over the
> transmission tunnel tight fitting between the levers and this made a
> noticable difference, this was on a 110 and it seems alot of noise was
> coming up through the thin rubber gearlever surround.
>
> hope that helps a little.
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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"TVS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just done a search for sound proofing and found some interesting stuff
like
> the BJ Acoustics kits. These look very nice but pricey and it seems the
fit
> may be a bit suspect? Any other opinions on these? I was interested in
there
> 'Sound Barrier' kit at over £200 (ouch) but seeing if they would do one
with
> out the lead lined bonnet. I've heard these do very little, at least on a
> TDi Defender anyway.
> Never thought much of 'felt' kits - other than the water problems, I had
one
> for a mini and it didn't seem to make ANY noticeable difference!
> Woolies Trim do some nice roles of sound proofing, again a touch expensive
> at the top end of the price range - over £20 per Sq meter!
> I've nearly done 500 miles since new rings, big end shells and
> reconditioning the head but the noise over 50mph is scaring potential girl
> friends away! I *need* to get this sorted!!
> Thanks! Toby

I've been thinkng for a while about going down the scrappy and having a poke
about what's used for cars - especially stuff like BMWs or mercs. A lot seem
to have removeable soundproofing that you could make up something suitable
from.

Andy

Thanks for the replies... I'm making sure that I pick one thats landy
freindly this time around Problem is, over 50mph is even making me feel
dazed and confused! :S
I'm planing on geting a load of expensive stuff from Woolies trim after they
reopen in the new year and fiting it to just about every surface befor
fiting carpet over the top. Then just have to hope my 90/110 type door seals
(not yet fited) will keep the water out...
I'll report back on the sucsess... well, on the sound proofing front anyway
Thanks! Toby