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On or around Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:25:47 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:14:59 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:59:30 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Sounds like driving a diesel landy.
>>
>>Better acceleration, though...
>>
>>>Perhaps you should buy a 2a/2b forward control to add to the fleet
>>>next
>>
>>Nah, the latest addition to 'modes of transport' will be 62 foot long.
>
>nice one :)
>
>I suppose that theres nowt stopping you sticking a petrol engine in it
>and LPG'ing it if it makes you feel better.. Dunno how long it would
>take you to make the cost back in savings though.

there's a 4mph speed limit, hardly any point.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured"
Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45
 
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:05:12 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>I suppose that theres nowt stopping you sticking a petrol engine in it
>>and LPG'ing it if it makes you feel better.. Dunno how long it would
>>take you to make the cost back in savings though.
>
>there's a 4mph speed limit, hardly any point.

4mph is far too fast IMO and ends up causing a lot of damage to the
towpath and wildlife. (semi-rant over). The other thing which really
hacks me off is the 'first time hirer' who doesn't know to slow down
whilst passing other boats. Partly blame the boatyards who hire them
out for not making this very clear.

 

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:05:12 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>I suppose that theres nowt stopping you sticking a petrol engine in it
>>>and LPG'ing it if it makes you feel better.. Dunno how long it would
>>>take you to make the cost back in savings though.
>>
>>there's a 4mph speed limit, hardly any point.
>
> 4mph is far too fast IMO and ends up causing a lot of damage to the
> towpath and wildlife. (semi-rant over). The other thing which really
> hacks me off is the 'first time hirer' who doesn't know to slow down
> whilst passing other boats. Partly blame the boatyards who hire them
> out for not making this very clear.

Hehehe, I've visions of landy owners chucking perkins engines on ropes out
the back to try and slow down - well, they are only fit for use as anchors!!
How DO you slow a canal boat down, Martyn? Engage reverse?
Badger.


 
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:09:20 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>How DO you slow a canal boat down, Martyn? Engage reverse?

Basically, yes. It's about the only time reverse is of any real use.
(apart from when you're going downhill, obviously). :)

 

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:09:20 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>How DO you slow a canal boat down, Martyn? Engage reverse?
>
> Basically, yes. It's about the only time reverse is of any real use.
> (apart from when you're going downhill, obviously). :)

What, you mean it doesn't have Hill-Descent-Control??? How primative!
Does it have a low-box for those really steep gradients? ;-)
Badger.


 
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:55:08 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:05:12 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>I suppose that theres nowt stopping you sticking a petrol engine in it
>>>and LPG'ing it if it makes you feel better.. Dunno how long it would
>>>take you to make the cost back in savings though.
>>
>>there's a 4mph speed limit, hardly any point.
>
>4mph is far too fast IMO and ends up causing a lot of damage to the
>towpath and wildlife. (semi-rant over). The other thing which really
>hacks me off is the 'first time hirer' who doesn't know to slow down
>whilst passing other boats. Partly blame the boatyards who hire them
>out for not making this very clear.

Or that coasting past fishermen only to then hit full throttle when
you are 5 yards past them doesn't help much...

Speaking as an occasional hirer, the people who most **** me off are
the early-retirers who spend all their time polishing their bits and
looking down their noses at the hire boats.

I don't understand the concept of hiring the slowest form of transport
known to man in order to rush from one place to another.

--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:38:30 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

>Speaking as an occasional hirer, the people who most **** me off are
>the early-retirers who spend all their time polishing their bits and
>looking down their noses at the hire boats.

TBH, I know rather a lot of "early-retirers", who have decided to
spend 7/12 or so cruising around the best BW have to offer. None of
them spend much time polishing their brasswork...

I _do_ know 'the type' you mean though, usually moored up for 4/12 on
a Permanently Cruising basis, can't manoeuvre any better than the
worst first time hirer and generally the curse of anyone who cares
about the waterways. They clog up waterpoints, moor on bends,
overnight by locks and then moan about 'townies' paying no respect.

Most people I know who spend a larger part of their life on the
waterways prefer 'hirers' :)

By far THE WORSE type though, are the early retirers who have a
mooring at the end of their garden, and their own narrowboat - course,
it's only for the Grandchildren to play on you see...

>I don't understand the concept of hiring the slowest form of transport
>known to man in order to rush from one place to another.

Absolutely. 1.4mph (av) is more than fast enough to get 'somewhere'.
After all, it's not as though the towpath has booking in times.
Cruise, stop, sleep...

 
On or around Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:40:54 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Absolutely. 1.4mph (av) is more than fast enough to get 'somewhere'.
>After all, it's not as though the towpath has booking in times.
>Cruise, stop, sleep...

true nuff. Although I've a hankering to do Wigan to Leeds and back, which
would require a bit off effort, especially in a week :)

actually, a fortnight would be better. original plan was Liverpool to
Leeds, but I suspect most of the hire boats come from Wigan, and as such,
Wigan to Leeds makes more sense. I'm not sure you can do Liverpool to Leeds
and back in a week, in any case. Wigan to Leeds and back in a fortnight
sounds quite nice though.

If you happen to be on the grand union about a mile south of kingswood
junction you can pay your respects to Bridge Cottage, which is where we used
to live.

There's also a pub there which is alternately called the Old New Inn or the
Tom o' the Wood, depending on who's refurbished it last. sometimes good,
sometimes less so. I believe it was closed for another refit last time I
was there. When we first went there it was a nice, quiet country pub. Then
it got bought by a wide boy from brum, and went downhill fast. later, after
we moved away, it got better again.

up by kingswood junction is the Navigation, which last I was there did good
food and ale.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Satisfying: Satisfy your inner child by eating ten tubes of Smarties
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.
 
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:15:37 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>true nuff. Although I've a hankering to do Wigan to Leeds and back, which
>would require a bit off effort, especially in a week :)

We're doin' the entire Warwickshire ring next year (only 93 locks for
Charlotte to do). This can easily be done in a week (97 miles)
provided you keep a steady heading and start early, finishing late. I
can't be arsed with that, so we're thinking of doing it in two weeks.

In every sense, going slower on a narrowboat is the same buzz as going
faster in a car. Navigating some sections is akin to off-roading, in
that slow is better in many circumstances, leaving more control, with
short bursts of power when you need it.

Take your time, I'll meet you on the cut ;-)

 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:50:51 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:15:37 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>true nuff. Although I've a hankering to do Wigan to Leeds and back, which
>>would require a bit off effort, especially in a week :)
>
>We're doin' the entire Warwickshire ring next year (only 93 locks for
>Charlotte to do). This can easily be done in a week (97 miles)
>provided you keep a steady heading and start early, finishing late. I
>can't be arsed with that, so we're thinking of doing it in two weeks.
>

BTDT, about 8 years ago now. Very nice circuit - starting at
Braunston? There's one day where you go through industrial Brum - not
a single point worth stopping at. We dedicated a day to just keeping
going - the girls kept the beer and sandwiches flowing and the boys
ran a well-oiled (in all senses) lock drill. Fun, in its own way.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10:05 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:50:51 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:15:37 +0100, Austin Shackles
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>true nuff. Although I've a hankering to do Wigan to Leeds and back, which
>>>would require a bit off effort, especially in a week :)
>>
>>We're doin' the entire Warwickshire ring next year (only 93 locks for
>>Charlotte to do). This can easily be done in a week (97 miles)
>>provided you keep a steady heading and start early, finishing late. I
>>can't be arsed with that, so we're thinking of doing it in two weeks.
>>
>
>BTDT, about 8 years ago now. Very nice circuit - starting at
>Braunston? There's one day where you go through industrial Brum - not
>a single point worth stopping at. We dedicated a day to just keeping
>going - the girls kept the beer and sandwiches flowing and the boys
>ran a well-oiled (in all senses) lock drill. Fun, in its own way.

shocking memory. Braunston was last time. We did Warwickshire ring
from Rugby.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:16:27 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

>We did Warwickshire ring from Rugby.

Clifton Cruisers by any chance?

We've used them lots - not stuffy, basic but clean. Under new
ownership now.

 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10:05 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

>BTDT, about 8 years ago now. Very nice circuit

We've done a fair part of it - in stages, at different times. We
reckoned it'd be nice to actually do the whole lot - if only to see
how much of it has changed over the last 'n' years :)

 
On or around Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:50:51 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:15:37 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>true nuff. Although I've a hankering to do Wigan to Leeds and back, which
>>would require a bit off effort, especially in a week :)
>
>We're doin' the entire Warwickshire ring next year (only 93 locks for
>Charlotte to do). This can easily be done in a week (97 miles)
>provided you keep a steady heading and start early, finishing late. I
>can't be arsed with that, so we're thinking of doing it in two weeks.
>
>In every sense, going slower on a narrowboat is the same buzz as going
>faster in a car. Navigating some sections is akin to off-roading, in
>that slow is better in many circumstances, leaving more control, with
>short bursts of power when you need it.
>
>Take your time, I'll meet you on the cut ;-)

hehe. can't afford it these days - what ever happened to the "camping
cruisers" you used to get - standard work-boat with canvas top and a basic
galley and facilities. We had a lot of fun with one of them, and a damned
sight less to hire than the boats with all the mod cons including colour TV,
DVD etc. I'd go off on a boat to get away from all that ****e.

Still fancy doing the leeds and liverpool, though. Has the added advantage
that one can drive down the road to wigan pier, I assume...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world
of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)
 
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:39:13 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>hehe. can't afford it these days - what ever happened to the "camping
>cruisers" you used to get - standard work-boat with canvas top and a basic
>galley and facilities. We had a lot of fun with one of them, and a damned
>sight less to hire than the boats with all the mod cons including colour TV,
>DVD etc. I'd go off on a boat to get away from all that ****e.

Absolutely. You can still hire them, but it's getting harder as
market forces and British Waterways 'rools' don't like them for some
reason. There are a couple of Trusts and yoof groups which still have
them and hire for short periods.

 
On or around Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:16:27 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10:05 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>BTDT, about 8 years ago now. Very nice circuit - starting at
>>Braunston? There's one day where you go through industrial Brum - not
>>a single point worth stopping at. We dedicated a day to just keeping
>>going - the girls kept the beer and sandwiches flowing and the boys
>>ran a well-oiled (in all senses) lock drill. Fun, in its own way.

we took a boat through the middle of brum when they were busy building the
norwich union building. quite surreal, boating through a giant building
site.
>
>shocking memory. Braunston was last time. We did Warwickshire ring
>from Rugby.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:50:51 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:15:37 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>true nuff. Although I've a hankering to do Wigan to Leeds and back, which
>>would require a bit off effort, especially in a week :)
>
>We're doin' the entire Warwickshire ring next year (only 93 locks for
>Charlotte to do). This can easily be done in a week (97 miles)
>provided you keep a steady heading and start early, finishing late. I
>can't be arsed with that, so we're thinking of doing it in two weeks.
>

That would mean you surfacing before the ungodly hour of 11am...... I
doubt that you could do that ;-)
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undsergoing camper conversion
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
1979 Range Ruster body shell and chassis
 
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