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John Oakes

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Hello All.
I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
what were their connections.
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John N Oakes
Manchester, England.

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John Oakes wrote:

> Hello All.
> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
> what were their connections.
The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for the
Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent suspension
with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total flop, the
independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and I think it
was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group. Its main
advantage was probably that it provided the Landrover with a domestic
competitor and provided impulse for improvements in the early S2/2a, but on
the other hand lulled them into complacency which resulted in the loss of
major markets to the Landcruiser, which even in 1958 was far better than
the Gipsy, despite being largely a Jeep copy with a Chevrolet engine and a
single speed transfer case.
JD
 
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Oakes wrote:
>
>> Hello All.
>> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
>> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
>> what were their connections.
>The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for the
>Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent suspension
>with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total flop, the
>independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and I think it
>was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group.

It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
difficult and expensive to maintain.

Alex
 

"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >John Oakes wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All.
> >> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
> >> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
> >> what were their connections.
> >The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for
the
> >Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent suspension
> >with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total flop, the
> >independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and I think
it
> >was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group.
>
> It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
> difficult and expensive to maintain.
>
> Alex

Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with the Austin Champ.
http://www.austinchamp.com/
........ I thought the Gypsy used a 2.2 petrol engine. The all steel body
rusted a treat on them .
Steve the grease


 
Alex wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>John Oakes wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All.
>>> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
>>> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
>>> what were their connections.
>>The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for
>>the Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent
>>suspension with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total
>>flop, the independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and
>>I think it was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group.
>
> It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
> difficult and expensive to maintain.
>
> Alex
You are getting it mixed up with the Austin Champ, an earlier, totally
different design that was designed as a military vehicle and sold only to
armed forces (new). They looked nothing like a Landrover, and did have
their good points (unlike the Gipsy), although, as one owner I knew
commented "the thing has 57 grease nipples that have to be serviced every
1500 miles - and if you don't, expect problems."
JD
 
And it used steel body panels which of course rust, as well as adding to the
weight.


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Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
> difficult and expensive to maintain.
>
> Alex


 
Button bashing in practice for another round of Daley Thompson's
Decathlon, John Oakes <[email protected]> left Shakespeare to the
monkeys by typing...

<whatever>

Just a small point - Austin chassis(es) **** all over lr CHASSISES. I'm
LR 100% but can appreciate quality. Gypsy's make LR look ****. (FULL
STOP) And I'm LR.
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| I so did it again |
O :-o O
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Alex wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>John Oakes wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All.
>>> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
>>> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
>>> what were their connections.
>>The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for
>>the Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent
>>suspension with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total
>>flop, the independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and
>>I think it was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group.
>
> It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
> difficult and expensive to maintain.
>
> Alex
You are getting it mixed up with the Austin Champ, an earlier, totally
different design that was designed as a military vehicle and sold only to
armed forces (new). They looked nothing like a Landrover, and did have
their good points (unlike the Gipsy), although, as one owner I knew
commented "the thing has 57 grease nipples that have to be serviced every
1500 miles - and if you don't, expect problems."
JD
 
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Oakes wrote:
>
>> Hello All.
>> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
>> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
>> what were their connections.
>The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for the
>Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent suspension
>with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total flop, the
>independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and I think it
>was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group.

It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
difficult and expensive to maintain.

Alex
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 06:36:19 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:

>Alex wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:21 +1000, JD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>John Oakes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All.
>>>> I noticed from a website selling Landrovers a Austin Gipsy.
>>>> This looked very similar to the series 1 model. I would like to know
>>>> what were their connections.
>>>The only connection was that the gipsy was designed as a competitor for
>>>the Landrover, came out in 1958, featured four wheel independent
>>>suspension with trailing arms and rubber springs. Was a more or less total
>>>flop, the independent suspension was dropped after a couple of years, and
>>>I think it was totally abandoned after Rover joined the Leyland group.
>>
>> It also used a Rolls Royce B40 engine which made it more expensive and
>> difficult and expensive to maintain.
>>
>> Alex
>You are getting it mixed up with the Austin Champ, an earlier, totally
>different design that was designed as a military vehicle and sold only to
>armed forces (new). They looked nothing like a Landrover, and did have
>their good points (unlike the Gipsy), although, as one owner I knew
>commented "the thing has 57 grease nipples that have to be serviced every
>1500 miles - and if you don't, expect problems."
>JD

My apologies. I often get those two mixed up.

Alex
 
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