bigchap
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a 1972 series 2?,series 3 came out in 1971.
series 2 1972 offered
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mysteryman
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As I'm new to this game - is there an easy way to identify the different series? Ready for the onslaught but I genuinely want to know.............
bigchap
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it might be ex military and 1972 was when it entered civvy street.
bigchap
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post a pic
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Distinguishing Land Rover features by Series
The Series One Land Rover
Series I (General): Flat door hinges. No sills. A single marker light on the front of the wing. The windscreen is taller than on later vehicles. The most famous Series I Land Rover is the "AntiChrist" that stars in the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"
The Series II Land Rover
Series II(1958-1961): The Series II has sills under the wing/door/box section. The waist is curved, bulging out from under the side windows. There are a pair of side lights on the front of the wings horizontally mounted. For the observant, the dash vents on the earlier Series II are opened with a large round crank knob. The vents themselves are held on by screws to the hinges (while the IIA are spot welded). The steering differs in that the steering arms are above the axle, unlike below on the IIA.
The Series III Land Rover
- Land Rover Prototype(1947): 1 or 2 built, none exist. Wings roll off in the front down towards the bumper. Hood held down by two jeep-like T attachments. Center steering, headlights behind a grill that covered the entire breakfast. The entire breakfast is open. No doors. The rear quarter panels have a perimeter raised area over a sunken panel. The windscreen is one piece with one center wiper.
- Pre-Production Land Rover(11 March 1948 to August 1948): Two piece windscreen. Looks like an early 80", except no fresh air vents below the windscreen. On the front rung of the ladder frame (just below the breakfast) is painted the chassis number (1 to 48)
- Series I 80" (1949-1954): The doors are tapered. Earlier 80"s have the headlamps behind the galvanized metal grill, later 80" have them peeking through the metal grill. The instrument panel on an 80" is vertically narrow with rounded ends. The fresh air vents are square ended. There are no side sills.
- Series I 81" Rolls Royce B40 Testbed (1951-1952): These would not generally be considered prototypes any more than Land Rovers around the World fitted with various engines from a multitude of manufacturers. The British Army tests never considered the Land Rover as anything other than a platform to test the engine and there were no serious considerations for it's eventual use in the Land Rovers being developed by the Rover Company at the time. The engine on the other hand was to be the standard 4 cylinder power plant for all British Army "Fighting Vehicles" of that size as there were also B60 and B80 engines destined for larger/heavier vehicles such as the Ferret scout car and the Saracen armored personnel carrier. These later engines were tested using Austin and other trucks as the test plat! form, without intention to use them in the particular brand trucks. Some of the tests on the Rolls Royce B40 engine for the British Army were actually performed by the Australian Army and the reports of those Australian tests can be sourced from the Australian National Archives. Although as a foreign national you may not meet the criteria for access. However having seen and read a number of the original reports, I can attest to the fact that the Army Testing Establishment was very clear that the modified 80" Land Rovers were nothing more than test beds. In fact simultaneously with the Rolls Royce B40 tests in Australia was the test of a GM 2.28 litre 6 cylinder engine in another 80" Land Rover, these tests were conducted between December 1951 and mid 1952. The British Army number of the B40/Land Rover used in Australia was 11B C77, you may be able to find out more information as to the chassis number of the car in question. (Contributed by Diana Alan of Sydney, AU)
- Series I 86"(1954-1956): The instrument panel is similar to a Series II or IIA, being a large rectangular panel in the Centrex of the dashboard. The doors on the 86" are not tapered like the 80", but are straight. There are no sills under the doors. The headlamp rims are body colored. From the side, the bottom portion, behind the front tire, of the front wing is equal in length to the bottom portion, ahead of the rear tire, of the rear box.
- Series I 88"(1957-1958): Very similar to a 86" Land Rover , but the front bumper is thicker (vertically), chrome headlamp rims, inverted T grille. From the side, the bottom portion, behind the front tire, of the front wing is about 1-2 inches longer than the length of the bottom portion, ahead of the rear tire, of the rear box. Canadian spec. SI 88" has one piece doors with no galvanized strip to denote where the top and bottom door mated. The interior is well padded with insulation, the front vents do not open. There is a heater box that extends across the cab under the dash, the air inlet being on the inside panel of the right wing in front of the breakfast panel. There are known to be four 107" Land Rover station wagons imported into Canada with these doors. [If you want to break the rules of this Guide, open the door and look at the Serial Number. A Canadian spec vehicle has a "C" suffix.]
Canadian spec. SII 88" (and a number of American hardtops) Land Rovers have one piece front doors. It is heavily insulated inside and came with two heaters.
The Series IIA Land Rover Series IIA (General)(1962-1972): Unlike the USA, both 88" and 109" models were imported into Canada until the end of 1972. In the US the last 109" SIIAs were imported in 1968 and SIIA 88" until 1971.
- Early Land Rover Series IIA(1962-1967): Headlamps are on the breakfast. Tall sills under the doors, about four inches in height. Steering tie rods connect under the axles. Dash is painted body co lour. Separate windscreen wiper motors. Mirrors on the wings. To many, this is the "Classic" Land-Rover.
Note: There is at least one Canadian Early IIA with factory headlamps in the wings, but this is extremely rare.
- Transitional IIA Land Rover(1968/9?) (a few thousand built): Headlamps on the wings, but surface mounted giving a "bugeye" look. Grille was an inverted T, but the wide portion is nearly the height of the Centrex portion. Rest of details similar to the Late IIA.
- Late Series IIA Land Rover(1968/9-1971): Headlamps are on the wings, but the radiator panel is covered by a metal galvanized grill (after 1969). The later IIA had a single, single speed, windshield motor (after 1967). The instrument panel is painted black, and not body co lour as on earlier vehicles. The sill panels are narrower, being approximately two inches tall, unlike the much wider panels on the earlier IIA's. (1969-71 door latches changed, changed again for III). Mirrors on the top door hinge.
- Series III(1972-85): Headlights on the front of the wings, a plastic grill and name badge. Other distinguishing features on a Series III will be the fascia and instruments. The Series III sported a revised fascia in black plastic where the instrumentation was moved from the Centrex of the dash to be in front of the driver. The door hinges are thick and flat, with a mirror mounted on the top hinge. The Series III has a single two speed wiper motor. Variants: The military 88" & 109" have a rectangular rear crossmember, generally over riders in the front bumper and straps to hold the bonnet mounted tire down.
- Stage One(summer 1979-1985: Although technically a SIII 109" Land Rover with a V8 engine, it is always listed as a separate model. The grill is pushed out flush with the wings. The grill itself is a wide pattern, square wire mesh. The Stage One Land Rover had leaf springs and a two piece, square edged windscreen. All Stage ones are 109", had a sticker on the rear quarter panel that said V8 and just above the wire mesh of the grill was a plate with "Land Rover". The "V8" sticker is also found below the Land Rover logo in back. The bonnet wraps down over the top of the breakfast. All other specs are as per the SIII.
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ok...i might have that bit wrong...thanks for the correction
If you can get a note of chassis and engine number then there is half a chance to correctly identify the year.........assuming it's not been cobbled from multiple doner vehicles.
