RRC replacement - any ideas?

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Richard Savage

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This might be a little premature having spent my last two threads
discussing broken springs but . . .

Having lived with the joy and pain of my 3.5 Auto Vogue SE 1988 RRC for
possibly 10 years I'm beginning to lose my sense of humour and wondering
what to replace it with. How do people make a choice? I'm definitely
not having another RR. It must be less than 6' high but have loads of
headroom. Friend has an Izuzu Trooper 3.1TD Citation which seems
wonderful by comparison, especially the proper rear door!

Looking forward to a vigorous exchange of ideas!


Oh and how do I put a realistic value on it? I suspect zero might be
the magic figure!


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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:07:42 +0100, Richard Savage <[email protected]> wrote:

>This might be a little premature having spent my last two threads
>discussing broken springs but . . .
>
>Having lived with the joy and pain of my 3.5 Auto Vogue SE 1988 RRC for
>possibly 10 years I'm beginning to lose my sense of humour and wondering
>what to replace it with. How do people make a choice? I'm definitely
>not having another RR. It must be less than 6' high but have loads of
>headroom. Friend has an Izuzu Trooper 3.1TD Citation which seems
>wonderful by comparison, especially the proper rear door!


For a proper rear door you could look at the Discovery - very similar
to the Rangie under the skin, but also taller (just shy of 2m with all
the roof bar gubbins).

If I was buying a big 4x4 today it would be (hangs head) a Nissan
Patrol. Although once the new Discovery is on Version 1.1 I could be
tempted... Only 33 months to go on the Volvo lease!

FWIW, to make a 'sensible' decision I think you need to start by
working out what vehicle you absolutely need. I always thought I
needed a Discovery because I had three dogs, and it had to be V8
because the diesel is too slow.

Proper thought showed that I rarely carry more than 2 dogs at a time,
and decent estate car can hold two biggish dogs in kennels quite
easily. I also do mostly motorway miles, often in heavy traffic.
Thus I needed an easy cruiser, with comfy seats and an auto box. I do
big miles, so a new car wasn't worthwhile - it would only be new for a
couple of weeks. But it had to be reliable, and within easy reach of
a main dealer to look after it under warranty.

Thus, it turned out that logically I needed a Volvo. And because of
the way I reclaim my business mileage, a petrol engine worked better
for me than the more expensive diesel. It's the sensible choice, and
actually I like it a lot because it really does meet my needs. But
I'll never really care about it...

>Looking forward to a vigorous exchange of ideas!
>
>
>Oh and how do I put a realistic value on it? I suspect zero might be
>the magic figure!


They seem to be very low in value, even in good condition. I suspect
that if you find a good one they are excellent value, or completely
ruinous if you don't. I'd say you'll be lucky to see more than a
grand for it. Which makes you wonder if it is worth selling it...



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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

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Hi Tim,

Tim Hobbs wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:07:42 +0100, Richard Savage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> For a proper rear door you could look at the Discovery - very similar
> to the Rangie under the skin, but also taller (just shy of 2m with all
> the roof bar gubbins).


Yes but it is, as you say, too tall. It MUST go under the 6' height
restriction.


>
> If I was buying a big 4x4 today it would be (hangs head) a Nissan
> Patrol. Although once the new Discovery is on Version 1.1 I could be
> tempted... Only 33 months to go on the Volvo lease!
>
> FWIW, to make a 'sensible' decision I think you need to start by
> working out what vehicle you absolutely need. I always thought I
> needed a Discovery because I had three dogs, and it had to be V8
> because the diesel is too slow.
>
> Proper thought showed that I rarely carry more than 2 dogs at a time,
> and decent estate car can hold two biggish dogs in kennels quite
> easily. I also do mostly motorway miles, often in heavy traffic.
> Thus I needed an easy cruiser, with comfy seats and an auto box. I do
> big miles, so a new car wasn't worthwhile - it would only be new for a
> couple of weeks. But it had to be reliable, and within easy reach of
> a main dealer to look after it under warranty.
>
> Thus, it turned out that logically I needed a Volvo. And because of
> the way I reclaim my business mileage, a petrol engine worked better
> for me than the more expensive diesel. It's the sensible choice, and
> actually I like it a lot because it really does meet my needs. But
> I'll never really care about it...


Proper thought indicates that I use my 1t trailer infrequently, i.e.
when it is the only solution rather than as first choice because I can
throw all manner of c*** in the RR occasionally. I only infrequently
struggle out of sodden mine-filth clarted clothes in the pouring rain on
Welsh mountainsides. I only infrequently drive in size 12 wellies.
Ditto do I carry ladders. I only infrequently cart boots full of tools
to remote youth hostels to spend weekends bodging up the previous
volunteers bodges. Ditto do I carry bicycles.

All those infrequent uses to add up to a fairly good reason for
something like a transit van!


Every time I drive SWMBO's SAAB 95 I put my licence at risk, so a
saloon-size vehicle is probably unwise.

I am tempted by something like a Subaru Legacy tho' ;-)


> They seem to be very low in value, even in good condition. I suspect
> that if you find a good one they are excellent value, or completely
> ruinous if you don't. I'd say you'll be lucky to see more than a
> grand for it. Which makes you wonder if it is worth selling it...
>


I'm not really interested in selling it, rather I'm interested in not
spending any more time and money keeping it running. It's fast becoming
tatty - rotting top tailgate, fallen headlining, lacquer lifting off the
roof paint etc. In the last year I have replaced the wiper motor and
had the head gasket changed - both stupid sums for what I got in return.
The into-reverse-clunk on the auto box sounds as though it's getting
worse, I'm just about to replace the rear springs as one has broken.
Really I'm expecting it to deteriorate at an increasing rate. I suppose
that's the answer - continue to run it into the ground. If the o/p
shaft from the autobox strips that will be a beyond-economic-repair
fault which will force me to dump it. Annoying really as it's an
Ashcroft replacement box.

Also it really doesn't have enough headroom for me. This wasn't a
problem in the early years as I only used it for SDP but now I commute
in it 5 days a week it's getting rather boring. BUT, it's great to
drive . . . when it's working.

<sigh>

I really do like the Trooper!!! (hangs head in shame)

Richard

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>
>I am tempted by something like a Subaru Legacy tho' ;-)
>


Only the remote nature of the dealer and slightly poor fuel economy
counted out the Legacy 3.0 in favour of the Volvo. My Dad has an
Outback H6 in Australia which is a really good car, though it offers
little practical benefit over the Legacy for most use.


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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 


Tim Hobbs wrote:
>>I am tempted by something like a Subaru Legacy tho' ;-)
>>

>
>
> Only the remote nature of the dealer and slightly poor fuel economy
> counted out the Legacy 3.0 in favour of the Volvo. My Dad has an
> Outback H6 in Australia which is a really good car, though it offers
> little practical benefit over the Legacy for most use.
>
>



We did have a Subaru dealer in Sevenoaks, which accounts for the large
number of said beasties locally. Unfortunately it has closed. Fuel
consumption??? Remember that I'm looking to replace a 3.5 EFi auto so
even a dreadfull sub-30 mpg will seem positively frugal.

TTFN

Richard

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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:48:59 +0100, Richard Savage <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>Tim Hobbs wrote:
>>>I am tempted by something like a Subaru Legacy tho' ;-)
>>>

>>
>>
>> Only the remote nature of the dealer and slightly poor fuel economy
>> counted out the Legacy 3.0 in favour of the Volvo. My Dad has an
>> Outback H6 in Australia which is a really good car, though it offers
>> little practical benefit over the Legacy for most use.
>>
>>

>
>
>We did have a Subaru dealer in Sevenoaks, which accounts for the large
>number of said beasties locally. Unfortunately it has closed. Fuel
>consumption??? Remember that I'm looking to replace a 3.5 EFi auto so
>even a dreadfull sub-30 mpg will seem positively frugal.
>
>TTFN
>
>Richard


Not sure what Dad gets from the H6, but ISTR it worked out at low 20's
in proper money. Which doesn't much matter at 90 cents per litre
(approx 2.4 exchange rate)...

I traded from an LPG Discovery which was giving me equivalent to 31
mpg. The Volvo is averaging at about 30.



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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 


Tim Hobbs wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:48:59 +0100, Richard Savage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>We did have a Subaru dealer in Sevenoaks, which accounts for the large
>>number of said beasties locally. Unfortunately it has closed. Fuel
>>consumption??? Remember that I'm looking to replace a 3.5 EFi auto so
>>even a dreadfull sub-30 mpg will seem positively frugal.
>>
>>TTFN
>>
>>Richard

>
>
> Not sure what Dad gets from the H6, but ISTR it worked out at low 20's
> in proper money. Which doesn't much matter at 90 cents per litre
> (approx 2.4 exchange rate)...
>
> I traded from an LPG Discovery which was giving me equivalent to 31
> mpg. The Volvo is averaging at about 30.
>
>
>


'Tis academic really, 'cos I doubt that SWMBO will sanction a Subaru.
She can see the point of a Trooper type vehicle but not the idea of a
4WD saloon/estate. Having said that, my brother (currently in Aus for
an indefinite stay) has said that I can fit a tow hitch to his Audi
Coupe Quattro. So maybe I will dispose of the RR ...... Bang goes my
license!

Cheers Richard
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