Re: What is a classic?

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Richard Brookman

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So Mr.Nice. was, like

> What is a classic?
> not referring to the RR classic but to classic vehicles generally.
>
> I suspect the tax-exempt land rovers are probably all regarded as
> classics?
>
> My land rover is 20 years old and has outlived most other cars made in
> 1984, does that make it a classic?
>
> It's one of the early 110's, made, I believe, when they were still
> making series 3's, does being an early model give it 'classic points'?
>
> What is a classic historically speaking?
>
> What is a classic in insurance terms? (I use my land rover for work so
> I doubt I'm in the running for cheaper classic car insurance anyway).
>
> While I'm whittering-on, are there any clues in the chassis number as
> to the production number of my land rover?
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)


I don't think there is a precise definition as there is with the terms
"vintage" and "veteran". It's more subjective. Most insurers seem to put
classic at about 20+ years.

Personal opinion, but I would reckon that cars go new -> old -> hack, and
then, IF certain conditions apply, classic. The conditions would be: ~30+
years old, no longer in production, held in high regard generally because of
good design or technology for the time, and at least some have been felt
worthy of restoration by enthusiasts. This would make a Morris 1000 a
classic, but an Allegro definitely not, except to the terminally sad.

To me, Series I and II and early Rangies will come into that category, but
Series IIIs and early 90/110s don't. Personal opinion, clouded by the fact
that I have a Series II and hanker after a Series I, but have no desire for
a Series III. To me, older 90s and 110s might be good, practical vehicles,
but they aren't classics yet.

Well done, Mark - there's the basis for a long and vicious thread here :)


--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
Now hang on, if it has leaf springs it is a classic, coils and it ain't.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> So Mr.Nice. was, like
>
> I don't think there is a precise definition as there is with the terms
> "vintage" and "veteran". It's more subjective. Most insurers seem to put
> classic at about 20+ years.
>
> Personal opinion, but I would reckon that cars go new -> old -> hack, and
> then, IF certain conditions apply, classic. The conditions would be: ~30+
> years old, no longer in production, held in high regard generally because

of
> good design or technology for the time, and at least some have been felt
> worthy of restoration by enthusiasts. This would make a Morris 1000 a
> classic, but an Allegro definitely not, except to the terminally sad.
>
> To me, Series I and II and early Rangies will come into that category, but
> Series IIIs and early 90/110s don't. Personal opinion, clouded by the

fact
> that I have a Series II and hanker after a Series I, but have no desire

for
> a Series III. To me, older 90s and 110s might be good, practical

vehicles,
> but they aren't classics yet.
>
> Well done, Mark - there's the basis for a long and vicious thread here :)
>
>
> --
>
> Rich
>
> Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous
>
>



 
Mr.Nice. wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:42:05 -0000, "Mr Jolly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Now hang on, if it has leaf springs it is a classic, coils and it
>>> ain't.

>>
>> old rangies?

>
> The original range rover is the only motor vehicle ever to have been
> exhibited at the Louvre, serious brownie points there I think....
>


It is a fine art museum in it's own right. Read the Da-Vinci (Dan Brown) code & the whole thing is uber
cool. Not in a 'cool' way, just very trippy!

Fine art is only judgable in one museum, it's in Amsterdam & it is NOT the modern art one!

>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)


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Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

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A classic is a Land Rover that every time you go underneath you need to weld
another hole.

Oh and it leaves little pools of oil on the garage floor.

Of course it gobbles up copious amounts of money as well in repairs.
Although, my Series 3 has cost me about £30 in 5 months and that was on
servicing, so it ain't too bad.

A


 
Nige wrote:
> Mr.Nice. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:42:05 -0000, "Mr Jolly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>Now hang on, if it has leaf springs it is a classic, coils and it
>>>>ain't.
>>>
>>>old rangies?

>>
>>The original range rover is the only motor vehicle ever to have been
>>exhibited at the Louvre, serious brownie points there I think....
>>

>
>
> It is a fine art museum in it's own right. Read the Da-Vinci (Dan Brown) code & the whole thing is uber
> cool. Not in a 'cool' way, just very trippy!
>
> Fine art is only judgable in one museum, it's in Amsterdam & it is NOT the modern art one!
>
>
>>Regards.
>>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

>
>
> --
> Subaru WRX (The Bitch)
>
> Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)
>
> __
>
>

No bloody good if you're only looking at it tho'

:0)

`Mark
 
So Mr.Nice. was, like

> The original range rover is the only motor vehicle ever to have been
> exhibited at the Louvre, serious brownie points there I think....


Was that Tracy Emin's "People I Have Shagged In The Back Of My Motor",
complete with back seat full of used johnnies, cans of Special Brew etc?

--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
So Andrew Renshaw was, like

> A classic is a Land Rover that every time you go underneath you need
> to weld another hole.
>
> Oh and it leaves little pools of oil on the garage floor.
>
> Of course it gobbles up copious amounts of money as well in repairs.


I could say that about my lawn mower!

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Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
Mine is definatly a classic then .


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew.hart.i hate [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A classic is a Land Rover that every time you go underneath you need to

weld
> another hole.
>
> Oh and it leaves little pools of oil on the garage floor.
>
> Of course it gobbles up copious amounts of money as well in repairs.
> Although, my Series 3 has cost me about £30 in 5 months and that was on
> servicing, so it ain't too bad.
>
> A
>
>



 

"Mr Jolly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Now hang on, if it has leaf springs it is a classic, coils and it ain't.

>
> old rangies?
>

Ah, but surely coil springs are ok as long as you have sliding windows
instead of those 'orrible windy things....
(Says he, looking out at his 1983 110 with slidy windows...)
Badger.


 
In message <[email protected]>, Mr. Nice.
<mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> writes
>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:47:54 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mr Jolly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Now hang on, if it has leaf springs it is a classic, coils and it ain't.
>>>
>>> old rangies?
>>>

>>Ah, but surely coil springs are ok as long as you have sliding windows
>>instead of those 'orrible windy things....
>>(Says he, looking out at his 1983 110 with slidy windows...)
>>Badger.

>
>I'm with you there..... (1984 110, sliding windows lifting handles,
>hurrah!)
>
>
>
>Regards.
>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

Yeh, they don't freeze up like these windy uppy things. According to my
handbook they should not be oiled as they are lubricated for life. O.K.
so now they are dead what do I do?
--
hugh
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Better still use lots of carbon spray. You can find it at any good
electronics spare parts store and it has the big advantage of being almost
immune to low temperatures. It also does not allow dust or dirt to stick to
the lubricated surfaces. Does wonders for sticky doorlocks also.

Take care and merry Xmas everybody.
Pantelis


"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:50:30 +0000, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>, Mr. Nice.
> ><mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> writes
> >>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:47:54 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"Mr Jolly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>>> Now hang on, if it has leaf springs it is a classic, coils and it

ain't.
> >>>>
> >>>> old rangies?
> >>>>
> >>>Ah, but surely coil springs are ok as long as you have sliding windows
> >>>instead of those 'orrible windy things....
> >>>(Says he, looking out at his 1983 110 with slidy windows...)
> >>>Badger.
> >>
> >>I'm with you there..... (1984 110, sliding windows lifting handles,
> >>hurrah!)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Regards.
> >>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

> >Yeh, they don't freeze up like these windy uppy things. According to my
> >handbook they should not be oiled as they are lubricated for life. O.K.
> >so now they are dead what do I do?

>
> grease-em
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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