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Planning permissionand landrovers

Discussion in 'General Land Rover Forum' started by Mingus, Dec 9, 2019.

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  1. Hicap phill

    Hicap phill Well-Known Member

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    Normally it’s only caravans on your front drive that causes problems.


    also ask the council chap for any reference numbers to quote on correspondence.
    This way you know if they have started a case yet
     
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  2. Dippypud

    Dippypud Never Knowingly Understood

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    If they're up off their wheels it may do the trick ... depends on wording of 'complaint' ...
     
  3. Dippypud

    Dippypud Never Knowingly Understood

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    More likely just a 'file' ...
     
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    Hicap phill Well-Known Member

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    But they need full trace. it makes a friend of a friend favour harder to cover up ;)
     
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  5. gstuart

    gstuart D3 Grandad

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    Maybe there trying the environmental angle, ie risk of any oil etc going into the ground

    as the others have said , I’d ask him to be specific of what laws ur suppose to be breaking

    what council is it please,
     
  6. steve2286w

    steve2286w Well-Known Member

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    I would think their only angle would be a change of use from residential to business if they thought you were offering a storage facilty/ repair shop/car sales business etc
    It’s not worth getting stroppy with them, just give them the facts as you say re ownership and your land and as said ask for which planning law and section of it they think the breach is and ask for him to reply in 7 days
     
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    Ian M in France Well-Known Member

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    Would you need planning permission for a shed the same size?
     
  8. steve2286w

    steve2286w Well-Known Member

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    “a shed the same size as what?”
     
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    steve2286w Well-Known Member

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    @Mingus what planning references did he give you
     
  10. Mingus

    Mingus Active Member

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    Just asked on what planning has been breached...lets see what they say. Council is South Lakeland...and no, i'm not in the national park.
     
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  11. steve2286w

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    gstuart D3 Grandad

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    thks, maybe the neighbour thinks ur pouring oil down a drain or trying to find any excuse to get the council involved by any means necessary

    At the end of the day hopefully ur be left in peace , will indeed be interesting to see what ur suppose to be breaching
     
  13. dieseldog69

    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    Tell them nothing, ask lots of questions and if they are not clear enough then demand specifics.

    From experience a letter from your solicitor demanding more information from them and any rules, laws or bylaws that may have been infringed along with a strongly worded letter telling them that you are a tax paying citizen and that they have a duty of care towards you also and not just bored weirdo's with nothing better to do than complain.
     
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    I’d be very wary of sending them details. As mentioned, ask lots of questions, ask who has complained and why they’re looking into your vehicles, what laws you have breached. Seek legal advice before sending them any emails or written correspondence in case you incriminate yourself inadvertently. Your local citizens advice bureau may be able to help, or google search solicitors who deal with planning matters.
     
  15. blue beasty

    blue beasty Leaks an prone to bits dropping off

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    No point asking who has complained as they wont/can't tell you.
     
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    There are a few things to consider. Are all the vehicles owned by you on your private property, or are the vehicles owned by third parties?
    Do you carry out repairs to vehicles on a commercial basis? i.e. for payment in any form which could be construed as a couple of pints from a friend you have helped out. Is there any covenant on your deeds regarding parking of vehicles? If there is I am not sure that would be in the remit of a planning officer.

    Another possible issue is are the vehicles parked a detriment to the local environment including a visual impact. Counter argument to that is the vehicles are part of your right to peaceful enjoyment of your own property

    Now the planning officer will have to give you reasons why you need planning permission ask politely what grounds you need to apply for planning permission for and the exact regulations.

    How did the planning officer know they have not moved for 28 days? Has the planning officer entered your private property and inspected your vehicles without your permission? That is a No No and possible a case of civil trespass unless he can prove that he has the legal right to enter your property and inspect the vehicles.

    We had a neighbour complain about our drive and the local planning officer decided we should apply for retrospective planning permission for vehicle access road which would give the neighbour the opportunity to object. An email explaining that our drive had been in existence for 30+ years and predated any regulation that he quoted, dropped kerb had been supplied by council, gate was far enough from the road to park on prior to opening the gate, that the drive surface was porous etc. If we parked on the road it would be a traffic hazard as it is a narrow road. Therefore we were not going to be applying for retrospective planning permission.

    Just be polite, ask exactly under what regulations you need to apply for retrospective planning permission. Do not be tempted to tell them to go forth etc. All that will do is get their back up which will result in more grief for you.
     
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  17. Mingus

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    Thanks....defo being polite and i have asked in writing under what regs i need planning permission. All vehicles owned by me and sorned where necessary....i do work on them but i never work on anyone elses vehicles....noone would be stupid enough to pay for my rank amateur mechanical skills. I get the feleing it will go away but surprised that the council have gone this heavy handed. After lots of searching i can find no similar case so guess its a rarity.
     
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    sending the planning guy a letter with your intentions, just gives them ammunition to hang you. Just tell them to quote bible and verse as to where you con't do what you are doing. always make officials show proof/law.
     
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    Thor 1950 Well-Known Member

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    fook email make them send by post on there letter head and official signature and title of office. make them work a do there job
     
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    I totally endorse the last paragraph of 'Leeds' post #36.
    I am a retired public servant & believe me getting stroppy with them is the last thing you want to do. They are just as human as you, can have bad days like you, get just as ****ed off as you & consequently make life very tedious for you :oops:
    Hope it all gets sorted soon.
     
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