Pile of ****e tyre on new Defender

mikerajjers · Dec 4, 2021

The Continental CrossContact RX 255/65 R19 is probably the worst tyre I have ever used! It is an absolute pile of ****e! It has zero sideways grip on even the mildest of muddy inclines and goes all over the place on muddy tracks... and I don't mean properly muddy, just a moist top surface.

As for all-season my arse. Went out in 1°C with sleety conditions. Very very light dusting of wet snow (I mean 1-2mm) and again shocking grip. The car just didn´t feel planted.

It is an absolute disgrace that these even come fitted to a Defender... does nobody ever take new Land Rovers off-road? Are they all just for school runs and end up as pavement princesses? They are coming off on Wednesday and I´m putting on proper dedicated winter tyres. When spring comes round I´m putting the steelies with ATs back on.

Western Slope Rover · Dec 4, 2021

mikerajjers said:
The Continental CrossContact RX 255/65 R19 is probably the worst tyre I have ever used! It is an absolute pile of ****e! It has zero sideways grip on even the mildest of muddy inclines and goes all over the place on muddy tracks... and I don't mean properly muddy, just a moist top surface.

As for all-season my arse. Went out in 1°C with sleety conditions. Very very light dusting of wet snow (I mean 1-2mm) and again shocking grip. The car just didn´t feel planted.

It is an absolute disgrace that these even come fitted to a Defender... does nobody ever take new Land Rovers off-road? Are they all just for school runs and end up as pavement princesses? They are coming off on Wednesday and I´m putting on proper dedicated winter tyres. When spring comes round I´m putting the steelies with ATs back on.

Oh great. Now you're gonna find all the other flaws.

Turboman · Dec 4, 2021

mikerajjers said:
The Continental CrossContact RX 255/65 R19 is probably the worst tyre I have ever used! It is an absolute pile of ****e! It has zero sideways grip on even the mildest of muddy inclines and goes all over the place on muddy tracks... and I don't mean properly muddy, just a moist top surface.

As for all-season my arse. Went out in 1°C with sleety conditions. Very very light dusting of wet snow (I mean 1-2mm) and again shocking grip. The car just didn´t feel planted.

It is an absolute disgrace that these even come fitted to a Defender... does nobody ever take new Land Rovers off-road? Are they all just for school runs and end up as pavement princesses? They are coming off on Wednesday and I´m putting on proper dedicated winter tyres. When spring comes round I´m putting the steelies with ATs back on.

Consensus on LZ was that it was going to be an overpriced SUV.

But you went out and bought one anyway.

mikerajjers · Dec 4, 2021

Turboman said:
Consensus on LZ was that it was going to be an overpriced SUV.

But you went out and bought one anyway.

Yes, the consensus on LZ wasn´t great but ah well. I don´t think it is overpriced, there are far worse and much less inspiring cars out there for similar or more money. It replaced by Discovery 4, which I loved, but couldn´t live with the unceratinty as to when or if the crank would break.

mikerajjers · Dec 4, 2021

Western Slope Rover said:
Oh great. Now you're gonna find all the other flaws.

If it didn´t have any flaws it wouldn´t be a Land Rover

Turboman · Dec 4, 2021

mikerajjers said:
Yes, the consensus on LZ wasn´t great but ah well. I don´t think it is overpriced, there are far worse and much less inspiring cars out there for similar or more money. It replaced by Discovery 4, which I loved, but couldn´t live with the unceratinty as to when or if the crank would break.

Best of luck. Will be interested to see how you get on.
Most that I see over here are just used for school runs and shopping, but I have seen a few recently towing plant trailers etc.
I imagine they are pretty good for towing, Discos always were, and as you suggest, they are a kind of development of Disco technology.

mikerajjers · Dec 4, 2021

Turboman said:
Best of luck. Will be interested to see how you get on.
Most that I see over here are just used for school runs and shopping, but I have seen a few recently towing plant trailers etc.
I imagine they are pretty good for towing, Discos always were, and as you suggest, they are a kind of development of Disco technology.

Thanks, I may do a little write up later to let others know how I get on. I went with the lowest spec trim and then added stuff that I actually wanted such as the off-road pack. What I like about it the most is that it has coil springs (110 and not utility spec so I have 5 seats). That couldn´t be specced until spring this year, not sure if it is an option in the UK.

Western Slope Rover · Dec 4, 2021

mikerajjers said:
Thanks, I may do a little write up later to let others know how I get on. I went with the lowest spec trim and then added stuff that I actually wanted such as the off-road pack. What I like about it the most is that it has coil springs (110 and not utility spec so I have 5 seats). That couldn´t be specced until spring this year, not sure if it is an option in the UK.

The coils are a refreshing bit of sanity.

Turboman · Dec 4, 2021

Western Slope Rover said:
The coils are a refreshing bit of sanity.

When will the leaf spring option become available?

freelance · Dec 4, 2021

It will be interesting to see how you get on with it, we have a disco 4 coming up for change, and we’re not keen on the disco 5
Be great if you’re able to keep us informed!

kermit_rr · Dec 4, 2021

It's a summer tyre for crossovers and SUVs, no wonder it didn't do so well

Def90man · Dec 4, 2021

This is a new ‘90’ on me island. The owner said he specced the ‘off road package’ and has slightly more off road biased tyres. Can’t remember what make the are though

Turboman · Dec 4, 2021

Def90man said:
This is a new ‘90’ on me island. The owner said he specced the ‘off road package’ and has slightly more off road biased tyres. Can’t remember what make the are though View attachment 253858

Looks like they have kept a proper Land Rover as a fallback, though!

Def90man · Dec 4, 2021

Turboman said:
Looks like they have kept a proper Land Rover as a fallback, though!

Series 1. It’s the one I do a bit of work on for the owner

saxavordian · Dec 4, 2021

Somewhere in my distant memory didn't the army, experiment tyres that can survive ieds not having sidewalls our tubes. According to gadget show recently Goodyear tires are producing the same 2030 release date.

Turboman · Dec 4, 2021

saxavordian said:
Somewhere in my distant memory didn't the army, experiment tyres that can survive ieds not having sidewalls our tubes. According to gadget show recently Goodyear tires are producing the same 2030 release date.

Not saying you are wrong, but how does a tyre not have sidewalls?
Wouldn't it just be a rubber band around the wheel?

Def90man · Dec 4, 2021

saxavordian said:
Somewhere in my distant memory didn't the army, experiment tyres that can survive ieds not having sidewalls our tubes. According to gadget show recently Goodyear tires are producing the same 2030 release date.

Hicap phill · Dec 4, 2021

I have found out the new defender rims fit onto certain discos.
Change the rims(slightly smaller) & get some proper tyres.

saxavordian · Dec 4, 2021

Turboman said:
Not saying you are wrong, but how does a tyre not have sidewalls?
Wouldn't it just be a rubber band around the wheel?

I believe there is a mesh that flexible with a tread as normal outside. The sidewalls not needed because the gap filled. Quite sure the army tried a similar version may have been the prototype.

mikerajjers · Dec 4, 2021

Turboman said:
Not saying you are wrong, but how does a tyre not have sidewalls?
Wouldn't it just be a rubber band around the wheel?

Michelin and some other manufacturers tried a mesh style tyre. I remember reading about it, can't remeber why they weren't successful but there was a reas on.

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