parallel/reserve LPG tanks

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:17 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd wrote:

>> generally come down to keeping everything/one clean, having
>> different areas for cooked and uncooked stuff, keeping cold stuff
>> cold and hot stuff hot.

That sums it up nicely.

> I think you need a "Basic Hygene Certificate" or something when
> providing food to "the public".

Basic Food Hygene Certificate, I've got one somewhere, did 5 (might
have been less) 2 hours evening sessions last year. It really is
common sense stuff, some not blindingly obvious common sense but once
told it's obvious. Anyone with a couple of brain cells could get one.
There are few temperatures and durations you need to know but thats
about it.

At some point we intend to do Holiday Lets or B&B but we need to stop
the place rotting and falling apart first...

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On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:10:53 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>My local belly-pork supplier is up for it!

<homer S>

mmmmmm, belly pork...

<drool>
</homer>
--
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"Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt"
(confound the men who have made our remarks before us.)
Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes]

"Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> > > I think I am beginning to like the "reserve tank" setup. Can I get a
> > > solenoid changeover valve rated for LPG ?
> >
> > It's easiest to use a pair of ordinary LPG shutoff solenoids, controlled
> > from a changeover switch.
> >
>
> yeah, that was going to be my point. current lpg tanks have a solenoid
valve
> on the tank, so as long as both tanks have one, with a simple 2 position
> switch you can control which one is open, allowing only one to be open at
> any particular time. so no need for a changeover valve. you can then
either
> have two tank gauges, or do a little more wiring with relays etc. so the
one
> gauge will tell you the level on whichever tank is currently being used.
>
> Sam.
>
>
Can someone explain a little more about gauges. Theres a gauge on my LPG
tank with two wires, as part of the selector switch for Petrol/LPG there are
a series of Leds, never more than the first one lights up. Wwhat do I need
to do to fix or alternatively how do I provide a seperate gauge on the dash?

Gerald

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:10:53 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother}
> @"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> My local belly-pork supplier is up for it!
>
> <homer S>
>
> mmmmmm, belly pork...
>
> <drool>
> </homer>

.....so, are we on for the Lardrover for the "Unofficial 2006" then ?

Steve

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:27 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>....so, are we on for the Lardrover for the "Unofficial 2006" then ?

I am if you, Simon and austin are...

Mind, I believe the term 'lardrover' is the legal property of a
certain Mr Wayne Davies... ;-)


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:28:44 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:27 +0000, Steve
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>....so, are we on for the Lardrover for the "Unofficial 2006" then ?
>
>I am if you, Simon and austin are...
>
>Mind, I believe the term 'lardrover' is the legal property of a
>certain Mr Wayne Davies... ;-)

's all right, he can come too.

is this the one in the midlands, or another?
--
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"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)

On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:01:58 -0000, "Idris"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Steve wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think I am beginning to like the "reserve tank" setup. Can I get a
>> > > solenoid changeover valve rated for LPG ?
>> >
>> > It's easiest to use a pair of ordinary LPG shutoff solenoids, controlled
>> > from a changeover switch.
>> >
>>
>> yeah, that was going to be my point. current lpg tanks have a solenoid
>valve
>> on the tank, so as long as both tanks have one, with a simple 2 position
>> switch you can control which one is open, allowing only one to be open at
>> any particular time. so no need for a changeover valve. you can then
>either
>> have two tank gauges, or do a little more wiring with relays etc. so the
>one
>> gauge will tell you the level on whichever tank is currently being used.
>>
>> Sam.
>>
>>
>Can someone explain a little more about gauges. Theres a gauge on my LPG
>tank with two wires, as part of the selector switch for Petrol/LPG there are
>a series of Leds, never more than the first one lights up. Wwhat do I need
>to do to fix or alternatively how do I provide a seperate gauge on the dash?

The gauge on the tank has a sender of some kind - it might be optical or
resistive. It will connect, if compatible, with the multi-led thing. One
wire is earth, the other goes to your gauge unit.

You need the instructions to find out which wire is which, and what kind of
gauge/sender the unit in the front is expecting to see.
--
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In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

Mother wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:27 +0000, Steve
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ....so, are we on for the Lardrover for the "Unofficial 2006" then ?
>
> I am if you, Simon and austin are...e

Go on then. We have the technology. Are we after the half-an-oil-drum look ?
>
> Mind, I believe the term 'lardrover' is the legal property of a
> certain Mr Wayne Davies... ;-)

To whom go my grateful thanks for a great line in my last message. Mr
Davies can have a free hot dog.

Steve

Austin Shackles wrote:

> is this the one in the midlands, or another?

Is Gaydon still in the "Midlands" ?

Steve

On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:01:58 -0000, "Idris"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Can someone explain a little more about gauges. Theres a gauge on my LPG
>tank with two wires, as part of the selector switch for Petrol/LPG there are
>a series of Leds, never more than the first one lights up. Wwhat do I need
>to do to fix or alternatively how do I provide a seperate gauge on the dash?
>

BTW, the gauge unit on the tank should read about 80% when the tank is full
to cut-off. If it doesn't, some can be rotated so that they do.

if the gauge doesn't move try hitting the tank with a hammer... sometimes,
the float arm inside sticks. if it's a 1-hole tank with a multivalve, this
can still apply and can result int he 80% shut-off not functioning.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:40:08 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:16:01 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Dangerous Brian tried this a few years back, using a converted Sankey,
>>and was immediately surrounded by traders demanding the verious
>>health certificates etc. Don't forget they pay a huge anount for their
>>pitches at shows and quite rightly want to protect their interests, quite
>>forcibly sometimes. Often one company or individual will buy the rights
>>for the whole site and sub it out as they see fit (I have a mate who's
>>brother is a "scran can" operator and does shows etc).
>>Having said that, if you were doing "specialist" food then the organisers
>>would be able to tell them in advance and perhaps placate any objections
>>as you'd not be in direct competition.
>
>I think the large shows would be out - for the reasons you give.
>However I'd thought for those we could just have an evening BBQ by
>ticket - more private than public. Had a few superb 'barbies' last
>year, courtesy of Simon and Austin mainly, both of which started me
>off on this I guess.
>
>I was going through all of the regs to do with outside catering last
>week and although they initially seem prohibitively restricting,
>generally come down to keeping everything/one clean, having different
>areas for cooked and uncooked stuff, keeping cold stuff cold and hot
>stuff hot.

I do still half an oil drum kicking around......
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:10:53 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:17 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I think you need a "Basic Hygene Certificate" or something when providing
>
>That's something of an academic exercise, apparently and easily sorted
>(sadly, IMO).
>
>>Judging from my days as Treasurer of the Moorlands Harness Driving Club
>>at our yearly "bash" there is quite a demand for hot/cold food and drink
>>at events with only 40 or 50 people and I'd venture that if no wages are
>>being paid then a fairly healthy wedge could be made for charity -
>>especially if you can skank the materials from suppliers.
>
>My local belly-pork supplier is up for it!
>

excellent news, my belly yearns for his belly pork!
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:28:44 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:27 +0000, Steve
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>....so, are we on for the Lardrover for the "Unofficial 2006" then ?
>
>I am if you, Simon and austin are...
>
>Mind, I believe the term 'lardrover' is the legal property of a
>certain Mr Wayne Davies... ;-)

Yep, just got a few mods to make to mine (diagonal bracing). Currently
setup outside burning wood as we speak, old roof joists and the like.
Have saved about 15 bags of wood though for shows this year ;-)
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:01:58 -0000, "Idris" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Can someone explain a little more about gauges. Theres a gauge on my LPG
>tank with two wires, as part of the selector switch for Petrol/LPG there are
>a series of Leds, never more than the first one lights up. Wwhat do I need
>to do to fix or alternatively how do I provide a seperate gauge on the dash?

I'd assume that the lights on your selector switch should act as a
gauge.

on mine:
on petrol the light on the left hand end of the selector goes red.
on gas the light at the right hand end goes orange.
on gas the rest of the lights act as a level gauge. with full being
all of them on and almost empty being only the right hand orange one.

I fitted my kit and had it set up by an installer. They had to program
the switch to make the lights work as they should (just involved
reading the instructions and pressing buttons in a certain order).

Is the gauge on your tank properly connected to your selector switch?
on mine IIRC the gauge has 2 wires. One of these goes to ground and
the other goes to the white wire on the selector switch.
At one point i had to have my switch changed and the replacement one
also required the green wire (which was ununsed) connecting to my
gauge along with the white one.

Try getting some model names and numbers off things and ask in
uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:50:28 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> I am if you, Simon and austin are...
>
>Go on then. We have the technology. Are we after the half-an-oil-drum look ?

Austin and Simon both have the most superb BBQ equipment. Austins' is
the basic idea for what I'm planning to slide out of the GS. If Simon
can finish the half a beer barrel jobbie he prototyped at Peterborough
we'll be pretty much on our way I reckon. You bring the firepit, I'll
bring mine if I've made it by then. I'll also bring the field cinema,
some soundz and a box full of belly-pork

Pendin on the weather, Lee and Simon have both got 'SillyBigTents' but
Graham mentioned a barn??? Maybe worth joining the two threads...



--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:09:35 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:50:28 +0000, Steve
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> I am if you, Simon and austin are...
>>
>>Go on then. We have the technology. Are we after the half-an-oil-drum look ?
>
>Austin and Simon both have the most superb BBQ equipment. Austins' is
>the basic idea for what I'm planning to slide out of the GS. If Simon
>can finish the half a beer barrel jobbie he prototyped at Peterborough
>we'll be pretty much on our way I reckon. You bring the firepit, I'll
>bring mine if I've made it by then. I'll also bring the field cinema,
>some soundz and a box full of belly-pork
>
>Pendin on the weather, Lee and Simon have both got 'SillyBigTents' but
>Graham mentioned a barn??? Maybe worth joining the two threads...

two silly big tents???? How many id we have under mine at
Peterborough???? I reckon two of the things will dwarf a barn!
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:51:10 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> is this the one in the midlands, or another?
>
>Is Gaydon still in the "Midlands" ?
>
>Steve

ehwot? 'tis from here.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:55:30 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:28:44 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
>scribbled the following nonsense:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:27 +0000, Steve
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>....so, are we on for the Lardrover for the "Unofficial 2006" then ?
>>
>>I am if you, Simon and austin are...
>>
>>Mind, I believe the term 'lardrover' is the legal property of a
>>certain Mr Wayne Davies... ;-)
>
>Yep, just got a few mods to make to mine (diagonal bracing). Currently
>setup outside burning wood as we speak, old roof joists and the like.
>Have saved about 15 bags of wood though for shows this year ;-)

I daresay I can bring the industrial barbie to any show I'm attending, on
request... Which reminds me, I was gonna put some new grids on it this
year.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:32:23 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Basic Food Hygene Certificate, I've got one somewhere, did 5 (might
>have been less) 2 hours evening sessions last year. It really is


Apparently - and I have to confirm this, there is a local course, two
nights, 90 minutes each. Alternatively...

.... you can do it on-line!


>common sense stuff, some not blindingly obvious common sense but once
>told it's obvious. Anyone with a couple of brain cells could get one.


Rules out most of the takeaways around here, then!


>There are few temperatures and durations you need to know but thats
>about it.


Again, all on-line - incr-edible


>At some point we intend to do Holiday Lets or B&B but we need to stop
>the place rotting and falling apart first...


Have you thought about offering 'working holidays'?

People come and effectively work for free in return for food and
booze. When you complete you offer them discounted holiday lets.

Friends of ours are doing something similar in Scotland and Hungary
(or Romania or somewhere) - different friends BTW, we know quite a lot
of people leaving the city lifestyle. I may very well be looking to
leave the rat-race soon too as it happens...



--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

On or around Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:52:25 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>>
>>I was going through all of the regs to do with outside catering last
>>week and although they initially seem prohibitively restricting,
>>generally come down to keeping everything/one clean, having different
>>areas for cooked and uncooked stuff, keeping cold stuff cold and hot
>>stuff hot.
>
>I do still half an oil drum kicking around......

oil drums are a bit flimsy - they don't last long

must hunt a suitable blower for speed-firing mine. <thinks> or a small oxy
bottle.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25