P38A P38 vague value?

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Datatek said:
A French CT is or was valid in the UK for the purpose of driving the car to the UK. Why would it not be legal in the UK if driven by a UK resident? I can drive French hire vehicles to the UK no problem.
The French break down cover certainly is only recovery to the nearest dealer in my case, but if the UK plates were on it, AA/RAC cover could be obtained before the trip, the same applies to UK insurance. I don't see the problem unless you think ANPR cameras are going to pick it up. Even if you were stopped, proof of the French CT is likely to be accepted by plod if it was said that the car was being used in France on UK plates as many Brits have done for years per-Brexit.
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The French CT is only valid if it's on French plates. When a car is imported into the UK it needs to be re-registered on UK plates with MOT & tax unless it's a temporary import for up to six months by a foreign resident. The only legal way for a UK resident to drive the car is if the foreign resident who temporarily imported it is sitting in the car. Hire cars are a different case.
 
Mark Piercy said:
Just get it booked in for an mot at the nearest place to a the ferry or train port. As long as you have an appointment your OK. Then do the tax online. Job done. ;)
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It's not OK if you are a UK resident driving a foreign registered car (unless it's a rental car).
 
Datatek said:
A French CT is or was valid in the UK for the purpose of driving the car to the UK. Why would it not be legal in the UK if driven by a UK resident? I can drive French hire vehicles to the UK no problem.
The French break down cover certainly is only recovery to the nearest dealer in my case, but if the UK plates were on it, AA/RAC cover could be obtained before the trip, the same applies to UK insurance. I don't see the problem unless you think ANPR cameras are going to pick it up. Even if you were stopped, proof of the French CT is likely to be accepted by plod if it was said that the car was being used in France on UK plates as many Brits have done for years per-Brexit.
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A UK registered car with a French CT is not road legal in either country.
 
pete12345 said:
Don’t they give you a few months to re register it
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If it's on the road driven by a UK resident it needs to be re-registered. If it's on a trailer from the entry port then it doesn't need to be re-registered.

If it was marked as exported at the DVLA then you need to notify HMRC of the re-import. If it was SORNd then you just need to put it back on UK plates arrange insurance & have an MOT pre-booked. the MOT does not have to be at the port of entry just anywhere that is convenient but you must travel direct from the port of entry to the MOT.
 
nigelbb said:
A UK registered car with a French CT is not road legal in either country.
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Funny that, there are plenty of Brits her that drive on UK plates with a French CT, I have done it myself for a period of 6 months.
As a French resident I can hire a car in the UK and it works vice versa. You may or may not be quoting the letter of the law but I know of nothing that stops a French resident, especially if they have a UK passport, from driving either a French registered car or an English registered car to the UK, I did it for 15 years on French plates but there is a limit to the amount of time you can spend in the UK on French plates and I have been asked for proof with ferry tickets when I came back twice in a year that it was not one continuous stay..
If the DVLA was notified that the car was exported, then you are right, it cannot be put back on UK plates in France, but it can still be driven back on French plates with a French MOT, however VAT and duty would be impossible to avoid
 
Datatek said:
Funny that, there are plenty of Brits her that drive on UK plates with a French CT, I have done it myself for a period of 6 months.
As a French resident I can hire a car in the UK and it works vice versa. You may or may not be quoting the letter of the law but I know of nothing that stops a French resident, especially if they have a UK passport, from driving either a French registered car or an English registered car to the UK, I did it for 15 years on French plates but there is a limit to the amount of time you can spend in the UK on French plates and I have been asked for proof with ferry tickets when I came back twice in a year that it was not one continuous stay..
If the DVLA was notified that the car was exported, then you are right, it cannot be put back on UK plates in France, but it can still be driven back on French plates with a French MOT, however VAT and duty would be impossible to avoid
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Would there be any VAT and duty on a UK manufactured 1995 vehicle?
 
tomcat59alan said:
Would there be any VAT and duty on a UK manufactured 1995 vehicle?
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As an import I think yes, place of manufacture doesn't matter. Pre Brexit there was no problem but the border is a bit of a nightmare at the moment, stupid bludy politicians, it was easier back in 1968 before the EU. In a year or two I'm sure things will improve as the politicians stop being spiteful and realise they are only hurting their own countries.
Pre EU I imported a car into the UK and there was a 6 month grace period to get it registered. Pre Brexit it was the same, now from what I read there is no grace period for an import.
 
Datatek said:
Funny that, there are plenty of Brits her that drive on UK plates with a French CT, I have done it myself for a period of 6 months.
As a French resident I can hire a car in the UK and it works vice versa. You may or may not be quoting the letter of the law but I know of nothing that stops a French resident, especially if they have a UK passport, from driving either a French registered car or an English registered car to the UK, I did it for 15 years on French plates but there is a limit to the amount of time you can spend in the UK on French plates and I have been asked for proof with ferry tickets when I came back twice in a year that it was not one continuous stay..
If the DVLA was notified that the car was exported, then you are right, it cannot be put back on UK plates in France, but it can still be driven back on French plates with a French MOT, however VAT and duty would be impossible to avoid
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Nobody who is a French resident should be driving a UK registered car even if it has a CT except if it is in the process of re-registration. The problem is since 31st December 2020 that no French insurance company will insure a UK registered car even if it is in the process of re-registration & no UK insurance company will insure a UK registered car that has been imported to France & is in the process of re-registration.
As a French resident you can drive a French registered car to the UK then drive it in the UK for up to 6 months before it needs re-registration. The OP is however a UK resident who is not permitted to drive a French registered car in the UK.
The rules for hire cars are different.
 
Datatek said:
As an import I think yes, place of manufacture doesn't matter. Pre Brexit there was no problem but the border is a bit of a nightmare at the moment, stupid bludy politicians, it was easier back in 1968 before the EU. In a year or two I'm sure things will improve as the politicians stop being spiteful and realise they are only hurting their own countries.
Pre EU I imported a car into the UK and there was a 6 month grace period to get it registered. Pre Brexit it was the same, now from what I read there is no grace period for an import.
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The grace period before you must re-register a car is the same six months that it has been for decades. It is however not permitted for a UK resident to drive the imported car during that six months & never has been.
 
nigelbb said:
The grace period before you must re-register a car is the same six months that it has been for decades. It is however not permitted for a UK resident to drive the imported car during that six months & never has been.
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Funny, I imported a French registered Renault a while ago when I was a UK resident and drove it for 6 months before going through the registration process, I had no problem with insurance. I was asked if I planned to re-export the car and warned I had to register within 6 months if not.
 
People, this conversation is not very productive... :rolleyes:
The value of the car is reflected on its condition and past history.
If it's history is unknown then it may not a valuable venture. As most of us p38 owners know... If it's been looked after it still could be a lemon... Buyer beware... :p
 
If anything would have to be cheap enough worth the risk going there getting it back in one piece. If it’s your first P38 could cost you the price of an H&H in flatbeds fuel and tears. Can’t exactly get out and push they stop where they want to.
Price of the adventure may be worth it, if day1 is spending all that dough then if you get home alive you will genuinely be happy, all up from there on in o_O
For all we know he’s picking it up on his own flatbed and the CT is the only guarantee available that they can get it up the ramp without it boiling over or spitting it’s rad out.
We’ve all seen Mark take a trailer full of spares on a (relatively local) trip (whole trailer full!), Keith literally hooks up a backup P38 on the back and goes as a one man convoy :p:cool: and that’s diesels :eek:
Buy a 20+ yr old V8 auto P38 from France and drive it home
You are a nutter mate



You’ll fit in here fine :D
 
RangeRoller dt said:
If anything would have to be cheap enough worth the risk going there getting it back in one piece. If it’s your first P38 could cost you the price of an H&H in flatbeds fuel and tears. Can’t exactly get out and push they stop where they want to.
Price of the adventure may be worth it, if day1 is spending all that dough then if you get home alive you will genuinely be happy, all up from there on in o_O
For all we know he’s picking it up on his own flatbed and the CT is the only guarantee available that they can get it up the ramp without it boiling over or spitting it’s rad out.
We’ve all seen Mark take a trailer full of spares on a (relatively local) trip (whole trailer full!), Keith literally hooks up a backup P38 on the back and goes as a one man convoy :p:cool: and that’s diesels :eek:
Buy a 20+ yr old V8 auto P38 from France and drive it home
You are a nutter mate



You’ll fit in here fine :D
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Fuçking damn right mate:p
 
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