p38 EAS will it ever work?

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Hanm

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I have a very strange EAS problem.

My car is a 98 P38 4 .0 with 130k miles.
A few months ago I had my Range calibrated, as it was not how it is supposed to be. One day later I ended up in hard mode, after taking it to the Independent range rover specialist. They found that the rear right height sensor had given up. So I replaced it and thought that my troubles would be over, the car raised but was too high on the right rear.
After a few days it went back to hard mode.

When the car was connected to testbook, it indicated that at all levels the car was raising and lowering perfectly, except that the car did not raise or lower.

So started checking all possible faults:

• EAS relay: was fine
• EAS ECU: swapped it with another ECU to check
• Swapped the Valve block with a driver pack, was not the problem either
• Checked the compressor, is running
• Air bags and height sensors were checked before calibration and the right rear sensor showed wear at this point

When testbook is connected to the BECM it will indicate as before that the car is raising and lowering perfectly. (even with the right rear height sensor disconnected it will show this).

The last week I got the Schrader manual bypass valves, to get the car up from the bump stop, this works except from the right rear which has a blockage in the line. After reading the thread by Willos I suspect I have the same problem which is a melted airline, because of a leak in the rear exhaust. I have a new exhaust, but did not put it on as I wanted to sort the EAS out first.

Could it be that the EAS ECU would not operate because of this blocked airline? Or should I look for something else?

Just received a post reply by 996turbo, on another thread by Willos about blocked airline:
You found white powder in there??? Renew your dessicant as soon as possible.

Your valve block may be full of that powder and that'll block or make your valves leak badly.
 
I have a very strange EAS problem.

My car is a 98 P38 4 .0 with 130k miles.
A few months ago I had my Range calibrated, as it was not how it is supposed to be. One day later I ended up in hard mode, after taking it to the Independent range rover specialist. They found that the rear right height sensor had given up. So I replaced it and thought that my troubles would be over, the car raised but was too high on the right rear.
After a few days it went back to hard mode.

When the car was connected to testbook, it indicated that at all levels the car was raising and lowering perfectly, except that the car did not raise or lower.

So started checking all possible faults:

• EAS relay: was fine
• EAS ECU: swapped it with another ECU to check
• Swapped the Valve block with a driver pack, was not the problem either
• Checked the compressor, is running
• Air bags and height sensors were checked before calibration and the right rear sensor showed wear at this point

When testbook is connected to the BECM it will indicate as before that the car is raising and lowering perfectly. (even with the right rear height sensor disconnected it will show this).

The last week I got the Schrader manual bypass valves, to get the car up from the bump stop, this works except from the right rear which has a blockage in the line. After reading the thread by Willos I suspect I have the same problem which is a melted airline, because of a leak in the rear exhaust. I have a new exhaust, but did not put it on as I wanted to sort the EAS out first.

Could it be that the EAS ECU would not operate because of this blocked airline? Or should I look for something else?

Just received a post reply by 996turbo, on another thread by Willos about blocked airline:
Blocked airlines are very rare.

Melted airlines (tank reservoir and rear RHD) are very common on diesel rigs with a worn out center exhaust.

If your car can't go up with manual inflation valves, it's a air supply problem.

You can test quickly if the airline is dead by routing outside the vehicle a new line from valve block to airspring top.

Rear RHD is number 2 port on the valve block.

Buy a 25 meters pack of 6mm airline tube from Legris
 
And if you have to replace those melted airlines to reservoir and rear RHD air spring, reroute them from valve block to RHD side directly instead or LHD side where the majority of exhaust components are.

If somebody can explain me why those engineers put factory line near exhaust when they had the choice to put them on the opposite side without any exhaust??
 
I have a very strange EAS problem.

My car is a 98 P38 4 .0 with 130k miles.
A few months ago I had my Range calibrated, as it was not how it is supposed to be. One day later I ended up in hard mode, after taking it to the Independent range rover specialist. They found that the rear right height sensor had given up. So I replaced it and thought that my troubles would be over, the car raised but was too high on the right rear.
After a few days it went back to hard mode.

When the car was connected to testbook, it indicated that at all levels the car was raising and lowering perfectly, except that the car did not raise or lower.

So started checking all possible faults:

• EAS relay: was fine
• EAS ECU: swapped it with another ECU to check
• Swapped the Valve block with a driver pack, was not the problem either
• Checked the compressor, is running
• Air bags and height sensors were checked before calibration and the right rear sensor showed wear at this point

When testbook is connected to the BECM it will indicate as before that the car is raising and lowering perfectly. (even with the right rear height sensor disconnected it will show this).

The last week I got the Schrader manual bypass valves, to get the car up from the bump stop, this works except from the right rear which has a blockage in the line. After reading the thread by Willos I suspect I have the same problem which is a melted airline, because of a leak in the rear exhaust. I have a new exhaust, but did not put it on as I wanted to sort the EAS out first.

Could it be that the EAS ECU would not operate because of this blocked airline? Or should I look for something else?

Just received a post reply by 996turbo, on another thread by Willos about blocked airline:

Thr ECU has no idea how much air pressure is in any particular air bag. It has no way of measuring air pressure only height via the sensor. So it is a bit of an enigma as to why the ECU says everything is working. With a sensor disconnected it should show a fault on that sensor. I suggest you clear the blocked line and start again from that point.
 
I had the same issues with a bad recalibration session.

Is it a stock settings recalibration or a lift one?

It is a stock recalibration setting, the original setting was off which appeared to be the right rear height sensor. After the replacement of the rear height sensor the car sat high on that side, but was levelling when driving.
Unfortunately only lasted two days.

The airline probably got blocked because of the center exhaust being loose, had a big hole in it. I had the exhaust around but waited before the EAS was fixed, which never happened.
I will get the airline and see what happens. I will also check if the white powder is inside the line.
 
The airline probably got blocked because of the center exhaust being loose, had a big hole in it. I had the exhaust around but waited before the EAS was fixed, which never happened.
I will get the airline and see what happens. I will also check if the white powder is inside the line.
Easy :), my money on the melted airline due to center exhaust heat.
A new airline and a inflation valve will put your Rangie in the air:cool:
 
Just a brief updat, I got my Range up again. Had it sitting around in the snow and not in the mood to crawl underneath it.
The airline was plugged up with dirt, not the white powder that 996 Turbo mentioned. Now with the help of the bypass valves I can get it up again. After a few days the air was slowly releasing from the air bags, but I sorted that out with clipping a few mm of the ends of the air lines and now the bags keep the air in for 6 days so far. Problem solved (almost).
Now the next step is getting the air suspension working again as it should, the "slow down to .." message is still displayed and three out of four lights on the height change display are lit up, except for the lowest height indicator which does not come on.
I am getting the computer hooked up at a P38 specialist in the next couple of days, maybe this will bring the suspension working again as it should.
 
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