p38 central locking

here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both front
doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side works with
the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!

solution ?


help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !

Don't know if you've tried disconnecting the battery for 5-mins. I've not
had the problem you describe, but a quick reboot has 'fixed' a few weird
problems mine's had.

Good luck

Marcus

"cg1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both front
> doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side works
> with the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!
>
> solution ?
>
>
> help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !
>

cg1 wrote:
> here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both front
> doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side works with
> the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!
>
> solution ?
>
>
> help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !
>
>
Try checking fuses 9(20A) and 22(30A) on the fuse panel under the
drivers seat. These both feed current to the front door outstations. The
rear doors are fed from different fuses.

Gazza

I will wonder why the mechanical switch wont operate the lock thought ?
will give it a try tomorrow ! thanks

"Marcus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Don't know if you've tried disconnecting the battery for 5-mins. I've not
> had the problem you describe, but a quick reboot has 'fixed' a few weird
> problems mine's had.
>
> Good luck
>
> Marcus
>
> "cg1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both front
>> doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side works
>> with the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!
>>
>> solution ?
>>
>>
>> help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !
>>
>
>

"Gazza" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> cg1 wrote:
>> here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both front
>> doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side works
>> with the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!
>>
>> solution ?
>>
>>
>> help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !
> Try checking fuses 9(20A) and 22(30A) on the fuse panel under the drivers
> seat. These both feed current to the front door outstations. The rear
> doors are fed from different fuses.

I thought no22 was for the windows only ! well according to the handbook !
will check that in the morning aswell ! cheers

Reading your original post again, could it be that the solenoids in both the
front doors have failed? Hence neither door operates from the remote, but
the key opens (mechanically) the drivers door and it also operates the
switch in the lock to tell the BeCM to open the rear doors?

Sorry I can't be much more help

Marcus

1996 P38A 4.6HSE on Gas
1959 SII 2.5D

"cg1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I will wonder why the mechanical switch wont operate the lock thought ?
> will give it a try tomorrow ! thanks
>
> "Marcus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Don't know if you've tried disconnecting the battery for 5-mins. I've
>> not had the problem you describe, but a quick reboot has 'fixed' a few
>> weird problems mine's had.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> "cg1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both
>>> front doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side
>>> works with the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!
>>>
>>> solution ?
>>>
>>>
>>> help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"cg1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Gazza" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> cg1 wrote:
>>> here is the puzzle the passenger side front door wont unlock ! both
>>> front doors wont respond to the key fob but the rear do ! drivers side
>>> works with the key and activates the rear doors ! no 9 fuse is working!
>>>
>>> solution ?
>>>
>>>
>>> help please ! starting to think I should of stuck with the mk1 disco !
>> Try checking fuses 9(20A) and 22(30A) on the fuse panel under the drivers
>> seat. These both feed current to the front door outstations. The rear
>> doors are fed from different fuses.
>
> I thought no22 was for the windows only ! well according to the handbook !
> will check that in the morning aswell ! cheers
>
well its not the fuses and the sill switch wont operate the passanger door !
now how on earth am I going to get the damn thing open ?

> >
> well its not the fuses and the sill switch wont operate the passanger
door !
> now how on earth am I going to get the damn thing open ?

I've had a similar prob with my P38A, was the drivers door only though,
luckily, all other doors and boot operated normally. Wouldn't respond
to the key fob, but manual unlocking was fine. Took the door apart and
removed the lock mechanism (real headache to do) then took the lock
apart. The mechanicals inside were slightly worn, so when the motor
(there are actually 3 motors inside) that operated the lock mechanism
moved, it didn't move the rods. Some slight 'modificatons' later and
all was fine. This procedure was very delicate though, and replacing
the lock back in the door was a pain!

If you can hear the motors turning in the doors that won't unlock when
you operated the fob or manual key, maybe this is your problem? IIRC,
I think a replacement front door lock mechanism was about £100.

I think there's a feature on Andy Cunningham's site about failed door
locks.


Alan
'98 4.6 HSE Rangie
'75 SIII 109

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> >
> well its not the fuses and the sill switch wont operate the passanger
door !
> now how on earth am I going to get the damn thing open ?

I've had a similar prob with my P38A, was the drivers door only though,
luckily, all other doors and boot operated normally. Wouldn't respond
to the key fob, but manual unlocking was fine. Took the door apart and
removed the lock mechanism (real headache to do) then took the lock
apart. The mechanicals inside were slightly worn, so when the motor
(there are actually 3 motors inside) that operated the lock mechanism
moved, it didn't move the rods. Some slight 'modificatons' later and
all was fine. This procedure was very delicate though, and replacing
the lock back in the door was a pain!

If you can hear the motors turning in the doors that won't unlock when
you operated the fob or manual key, maybe this is your problem? IIRC,
I think a replacement front door lock mechanism was about £100.

I think there's a feature on Andy Cunningham's site about failed door


locks.

thanks! have you got a link to that ? got a look inside the door today and
all the push rods are working and the latches so it looks like the cam that
operates the lock is broken there is no resistance to the sill switch rod
!and or the little motor too as that is silent !

> thanks! have you got a link to that ? got a look inside the door
today and
> all the push rods are working and the latches so it looks like the
cam that
> operates the lock is broken there is no resistance to the sill switch
rod
> !and or the little motor too as that is silent !

Try here:
http://www.cunningham.me.uk/html/mo...le=article&sid=63&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Have a dig on his site, loads of usefull stuff

Alan