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Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.

Can anyone suggest a supplier - need them near Jct 1 of the M48 (NW
Bris.)

Any help or recommends appreciated...

Regards,

Simonm.

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On or around Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:18:25 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
>price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.
>
>Can anyone suggest a supplier - need them near Jct 1 of the M48 (NW
>Bris.)
>


concrete or wood? I thought they weren't supposed to be selling the wooden
ones any more on account of the creosote or something?
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:18:25 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
>price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.
>
>Can anyone suggest a supplier - need them near Jct 1 of the M48 (NW
>Bris.)


Bleeding typical isn't it, that these used to be _given_ away? I kept
a house warm all winter once on chopped-up sleepers - some of them
impregnated with all sorts of oils and the like, made for an
interesting floorshow at times.

Probably won't help you (as it'll kill you in transport costs) but
there's a place near Derby called summat like Architectural and
Maritime Salvage - couldn't find them on Google though, so they may
not be there now.

Another good bet is to try dock management companies (the people who
look after the now somewhat defunct railway sidings at large ports).


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SpamTrapSeeSig <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
> price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.
>
> Can anyone suggest a supplier - need them near Jct 1 of the M48 (NW
> Bris.)
>
> Any help or recommends appreciated...
>
> Regards,
>
> Simonm.
>


Try The Farmers Guardian. All sorts of stuff in there.

Derry
 
They stopped briefly, but now they are available again.

There's a place just outside Shepton Mallet that advertises railway
sleepers and telegraph poles - no more details than that, sorry!

Cheers

Peter

110 CSW - Reggie the Veggie

 
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:18:25 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

> Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
> price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.


That is about the going rate but I wouldn't want to use them even for
this. The oil, tar, **** etc will oze from 'em making the surface
slippery and get all over your footwear and into any vehicle or
building nearby. You'll still need a reasonable base to put 'em on to
stop them becoming uneven and starting to rock over time.

I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
filthy, heavy and hard to work. Using sleepers is a "fashion" thing
from garden makeover programmes.

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In message <[email protected]>
Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:18:25 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
> >price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.
> >
> >Can anyone suggest a supplier - need them near Jct 1 of the M48 (NW
> >Bris.)

>
> Bleeding typical isn't it, that these used to be _given_ away? I kept
> a house warm all winter once on chopped-up sleepers - some of them
> impregnated with all sorts of oils and the like, made for an
> interesting floorshow at times.
>
> Probably won't help you (as it'll kill you in transport costs) but
> there's a place near Derby called summat like Architectural and
> Maritime Salvage - couldn't find them on Google though, so they may
> not be there now.
>
> Another good bet is to try dock management companies (the people who
> look after the now somewhat defunct railway sidings at large ports).
>
>


There used to b e a place in Frome, I think it was Weavers, next
to the station.

Richard
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:32:27 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
>filthy, heavy and hard to work.


But they do burn well...

>Using sleepers is a "fashion" thing from garden makeover programmes.


Hey Tim! You're a fashion victim at last!


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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:48:42 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:32:27 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
>>filthy, heavy and hard to work.

>
>But they do burn well...
>
>>Using sleepers is a "fashion" thing from garden makeover programmes.

>
>Hey Tim! You're a fashion victim at last!


Yep. Still got the used ones on the driveway having learnt the hard
way that there is no way to stop them oozing. The new ones are much
nicer. They do serve a minor purpose - mainly keeping my two year old
the right side of a 4 foot drop...

There is a project in the offing to reduce the size of the fireplace
and refloor the living room. That may provide a cover story for the
proper log fire I've always wanted, which would in turn allow me to
get rid of the sleepers...

'course, I'd need a bigger axe.


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In article <[email protected]>, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> writes
>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:48:42 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:32:27 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
>>>filthy, heavy and hard to work.


>Yep. Still got the used ones on the driveway having learnt the hard
>way that there is no way to stop them oozing.


In this case it's to have a safe hard-standing, which can be
ride-on-mown without risk to the cutters, etc. It's quite a big area,
and has odd ground conditions. Old sleepers, especially dieseled or
creosoted, would be ideal, but paving blocks wouldn't. Needless-to-say,
they'll be gone over with a metal detector prior to use!

>The new ones are much
>nicer.


I agree, but they're very much more expensive, and won't be as easily
discounted in the quantities we need.

> They do serve a minor purpose - mainly keeping my two year old
>the right side of a 4 foot drop...


They bounce at that age. Both my older two descended the stairs
unexpectedly at various times. We did put a big floor-cushion against
the opposite wall though in the end (the floor was thickly carpeted and
deemed suitably soft). One of them won the school maths competition this
year (from yr.7!), and overall apart from a certain geekiness (prolly
inherited), we can't discern any other ill-effects!

Regards,

Simonm.

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>
>> They do serve a minor purpose - mainly keeping my two year old
>>the right side of a 4 foot drop...

>
>They bounce at that age. Both my older two descended the stairs
>unexpectedly at various times. We did put a big floor-cushion against
>the opposite wall though in the end (the floor was thickly carpeted and
>deemed suitably soft). One of them won the school maths competition this
>year (from yr.7!), and overall apart from a certain geekiness (prolly
>inherited), we can't discern any other ill-effects!
>


Should have said ... the right side of a 4 foot drop onto a patio...

Then again, she's bounced off worse. Right now she has a 1cm wide, 2
inch tall bruise in the middle of her forehead earned whilst learning
that the door should be fully open before walking through it.

There's also the hole in her left leg she earned whilst learning that
you should wear socks with wellies otherwise the tops rub.

Oh yes, and the missing fingernail earned when learning not to put
your finger in door jambs.



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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:04:18 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

>> Yep. Still got the used ones on the driveway having learnt the
>> hard way that there is no way to stop them oozing.

>
> In this case it's to have a safe hard-standing, which can be
> ride-on-mown without risk to the cutters, etc. It's quite a big
> area, and has odd ground conditions. Old sleepers, especially
> dieseled or creosoted, would be ideal, ...


Your call but don't come here looking for sympathy when you start
getting an ear bending about oily/tarry foot marks or almost
impossible to remove stains on clothing (trouser bottoms in
particular)...

> but paving blocks wouldn't.


How about that plastic grid stuff that allows grass to grow through
but spreads the weight so things don't sink in or create ruts? I think
you can get interlocking concrete grids as well. Still needs a
stable(ish) base though.

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In article <[email protected]>, Dave
Liquorice <[email protected]> writes
>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:04:18 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>>> Yep. Still got the used ones on the driveway having learnt the
>>> hard way that there is no way to stop them oozing.

>>
>> In this case it's to have a safe hard-standing, which can be
>> ride-on-mown without risk to the cutters, etc. It's quite a big
>> area, and has odd ground conditions. Old sleepers, especially
>> dieseled or creosoted, would be ideal, ...

>
>Your call but don't come here looking for sympathy when you start
>getting an ear bending about oily/tarry foot marks or almost
>impossible to remove stains on clothing (trouser bottoms in
>particular)...


I think the plan is roughly: order lots (at the right price!), use the
good ones, burn the really bad ones.
>
>> but paving blocks wouldn't.

>
>How about that plastic grid stuff that allows grass to grow through
>but spreads the weight so things don't sink in or create ruts? I think
>you can get interlocking concrete grids as well. Still needs a
>stable(ish) base though.


That's the challenge, where sleepers win. Very high water table, needing
wide load distribution, and a large area that will revert to grass in
the end (this is a 5-year-temporary type of thing). It won't be taking
big weights (by road standards), and we don't want to put lots of
hardcore down as it'd all have to go somewhere else later.

Still looking for a good bulk supplier...

Regards,

Simonm.

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In article <[email protected]>, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> writes
>Then again, she's bounced off worse. Right now she has a 1cm wide, 2
>inch tall bruise in the middle of her forehead earned whilst learning
>that the door should be fully open before walking through it.
>
>There's also the hole in her left leg she earned whilst learning that
>you should wear socks with wellies otherwise the tops rub.
>
>Oh yes, and the missing fingernail earned when learning not to put
>your finger in door jambs.


Nobel scientist in the making, evidently!

Regards,

Simonm.

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In news:[email protected],
Dave Liquorice <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:04:18 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>>> Yep. Still got the used ones on the driveway having learnt the
>>> hard way that there is no way to stop them oozing.

>>
>> In this case it's to have a safe hard-standing, which can be
>> ride-on-mown without risk to the cutters, etc. It's quite a big
>> area, and has odd ground conditions. Old sleepers, especially
>> dieseled or creosoted, would be ideal, ...

>
> Your call but don't come here looking for sympathy when you start
> getting an ear bending about oily/tarry foot marks or almost
> impossible to remove stains on clothing (trouser bottoms in
> particular)...
>
>> but paving blocks wouldn't.

>
> How about that plastic grid stuff that allows grass to grow through
> but spreads the weight so things don't sink in or create ruts? I think
> you can get interlocking concrete grids as well. Still needs a
> stable(ish) base though.


Aren't they called grasscrete?

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On or around Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:32:27 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:18:25 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>> Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
>> price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.

>
>That is about the going rate but I wouldn't want to use them even for
>this. The oil, tar, **** etc will oze from 'em making the surface
>slippery and get all over your footwear and into any vehicle or
>building nearby. You'll still need a reasonable base to put 'em on to
>stop them becoming uneven and starting to rock over time.
>
>I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
>filthy, heavy and hard to work. Using sleepers is a "fashion" thing
>from garden makeover programmes.


they make good bridges over ditches. If they surface is specially scungy,
you just nail some thin planks onto it.
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> Then again, she's bounced off worse. Right now she has a 1cm wide, 2
> inch tall bruise in the middle of her forehead earned whilst learning
> that the door should be fully open before walking through it.
>
> There's also the hole in her left leg she earned whilst learning that
> you should wear socks with wellies otherwise the tops rub.
>
> Oh yes, and the missing fingernail earned when learning not to put
> your finger in door jambs.
>

She should be a bloody genius when she grows up, at the rate she's learning
things!!


 

> >I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
> >filthy, heavy and hard to work.


Axle stands.

Ask any truck mechanic, or recovery operator how useful sleepers are!


 
Derry Argue muttered summat about:

> SpamTrapSeeSig <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
>> price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a supplier - need them near Jct 1 of the M48 (NW
>> Bris.)
>>
>> Any help or recommends appreciated...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Simonm.
>>

>
> Try The Farmers Guardian. All sorts of stuff in there.
>
> Derry


Or the farmers weekly, there are usually several companies in there.

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Dave Liquorice muttered summat about:

> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:18:25 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>> Trying to find some for a hardstanding, and can't seem to get a bulk
>> price (100+) below £10ea + VAT + carriage.


Have bought them for £8 but more usually 10. Have bought new ones for £14.

> That is about the going rate but I wouldn't want to use them even for
> this. The oil, tar, **** etc will oze from 'em making the surface
> slippery and get all over your footwear and into any vehicle or
> building nearby. You'll still need a reasonable base to put 'em on to
> stop them becoming uneven and starting to rock over time.
>
> I can't think of any real, practical, use for used sleepers, they are
> filthy, heavy and hard to work. Using sleepers is a "fashion" thing
> from garden makeover programmes.


Use them all the time on the farm. They make good fence posts, rails for
cattle pens, walls for building up ground, blocks to stand machinery on etc
etc. Have used hundreds and hundreds over the years.

--
Graham

101 GS
101 Rad Bod


 

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