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Derek

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Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep snow
( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from Michigan where
they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls measured in feet ) I
can't stop her laughing . Frankly we have deeper snow in the freezer .The
problem made worse by the oil depot fire and huge Christmas demand ? my
arse! something to do with a few dummies not filling the storage before a
weekend and two bank holidays coincide - Tanker drivers on overtime I think
not. How thick do the media think we are London is not the whole world -
there is proper cold weather elsewhere though so far we don't seem to be
getting much snow in Cheshire
Derek


 
....and Derek spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
> conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with
> deep snow ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being
> from Michigan where they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight
> falls measured in feet ) I can't stop her laughing . Frankly we have
> deeper snow in the freezer .The problem made worse by the oil depot
> fire and huge Christmas demand ? my arse! something to do with a few
> dummies not filling the storage before a weekend and two bank
> holidays coincide - Tanker drivers on overtime I think not. How thick
> do the media think we are London is not the whole world - there is
> proper cold weather elsewhere though so far we don't seem to be
> getting much snow in Cheshire Derek

BBC News this morning - severe weather warning, panel pops up with "HEAVY
SNOW" in red behind Carol Kirkwood. Quote:

"Heavy snow is forecast for Northern Ireland today, with falls of one to two
centimetres in places."

Gosh, that's almost an inch, as a woman once said to me.


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"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
> conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep
snow
> ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from Michigan
where
> they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls measured in feet ) I
> can't stop her laughing .

Well there is a little bit of truth to it, but not for the reason the media
imply. If you are from Michigan you probably used snow tyres [tires] in the
winter and all-season tyres in the summer. Here all you can buy is tyres
that are a menace at temperatures even fractionally below zero. They may as
well be made of leather. THAT is what causes the road chaos.

BTW, before setting off for the Krkonoše Mountains on the Czech border with
Poland last February I tried to buy some snow tyres here. They asked "How
gnarly do you want them?" That told me all I needed to know! (Snow tyres
are quite smooth, with narrow, self-cleaning grooves. But mainly they are
formulated to maintain their elasticity at extremely low temperatures.)

Roy


 
On or around Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:35:04 -0000, "Roy Hann"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
>> conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep
>snow
>> ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from Michigan
>where
>> they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls measured in feet ) I
>> can't stop her laughing .
>
>Well there is a little bit of truth to it, but not for the reason the media
>imply. If you are from Michigan you probably used snow tyres [tires] in the
>winter and all-season tyres in the summer. Here all you can buy is tyres
>that are a menace at temperatures even fractionally below zero. They may as
>well be made of leather. THAT is what causes the road chaos.
>
>BTW, before setting off for the Krkonoše Mountains on the Czech border with
>Poland last February I tried to buy some snow tyres here. They asked "How
>gnarly do you want them?" That told me all I needed to know! (Snow tyres
>are quite smooth, with narrow, self-cleaning grooves. But mainly they are
>formulated to maintain their elasticity at extremely low temperatures.)

got winter tyres for the back of the minibus, but had to order 'em
specially. As you say, different compound.

actually, my experience of winter/snow tyres is that the tread is much like
most of the AT pattern tyres, with lots of smallish blocks, but the main
point is they should be narrow, not wide low-profile ones.

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"Roy Hann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
>> conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep
> snow
>> ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from Michigan
> where
>> they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls measured in feet )
>> I
>> can't stop her laughing .
>
> Well there is a little bit of truth to it, but not for the reason the
> media
> imply. If you are from Michigan you probably used snow tyres [tires] in
> the
> winter and all-season tyres in the summer. Here all you can buy is tyres
> that are a menace at temperatures even fractionally below zero. They may
> as
> well be made of leather. THAT is what causes the road chaos.
>
> BTW, before setting off for the Krkonose Mountains on the Czech border
> with
> Poland last February I tried to buy some snow tyres here. They asked "How
> gnarly do you want them?" That told me all I needed to know! (Snow tyres
> are quite smooth, with narrow, self-cleaning grooves. But mainly they are
> formulated to maintain their elasticity at extremely low temperatures.)
>
> Roy
>
Ah herself is a Michiganer oi be from Cheshire moi deer . I agree
different horses for different courses tho' narrow tyres for snow to get
the penetration, block pattern are better in that respect which is just as
well as thats most pukka 4x4 tyres but hard packed snow is a different
prospect.The experienced ( that would be folk driving crew buses
around Hope Valley Derbyshire) are known to use studded tyres which is
about
the only way you get out of Castleton when the snow gets packed too hard
for the tread to cut into to the snow.Studded which are of course hopeless
on tarmac
(and illegal in the UK if they are causing damage to the tarmac) but fun to
watch
in the Andros Trophy
http://www.kia.com.au/cms/default.asp?action=article&ID=575
Derek
-5 C last night still no snow





 
In message <[email protected]>
"Roy Hann" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
> > conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep
> snow
> > ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from Michigan
> where
> > they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls measured in feet ) I
> > can't stop her laughing .
>
> Well there is a little bit of truth to it, but not for the reason the media
> imply. If you are from Michigan you probably used snow tyres [tires] in the
> winter and all-season tyres in the summer. Here all you can buy is tyres
> that are a menace at temperatures even fractionally below zero. They may as
> well be made of leather. THAT is what causes the road chaos.

Plus American cars tend(ed?) to have large long stoke engines and hence
good torque and engine braking charateristics.

>
> BTW, before setting off for the Krkonoše Mountains on the Czech border with
> Poland last February I tried to buy some snow tyres here. They asked "How
> gnarly do you want them?" That told me all I needed to know! (Snow tyres
> are quite smooth, with narrow, self-cleaning grooves. But mainly they are
> formulated to maintain their elasticity at extremely low temperatures.)
>
> Roy
>
>

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< snip >

> not once did i see a gritter and the roads didn't look nor feel gritted.
> WTF are they playing at?
>
>

They've heard you complaining about having to weld rotten chassis ;-)

Martin


 
MVP wrote:

> Not once did i see a gritter and the roads didn't look nor feel gritted.
> WTF are they playing at?

What do you drive? I could have understood if you were asking for the
other stationary traffic to be 'moved' but do you really need the roads
to be gritted?

We only pay for gritters, they last longer if not used!
 
Derek wrote:

> Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
> conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep
> snow ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from
> Michigan where they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls
> measured in feet ) I can't stop her laughing . Frankly we have deeper snow
> in the freezer .The
> problem made worse by the oil depot fire and huge Christmas demand ? my
> arse! something to do with a few dummies not filling the storage before a
> weekend and two bank holidays coincide - Tanker drivers on overtime I
> think not. How thick do the media think we are London is not the whole
> world - there is proper cold weather elsewhere though so far we don't seem
> to be getting much snow in Cheshire
> Derek

It's all relative to what weather is normal - for example I am expecting 41C
today, normal summer temperature, but can you imagine if this happened in
London ......

And, of course, for the UK media London is the world, same as for most
Americans the US is the world.
JD
 

"Roy Hann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Vicky just pulled up a news bulletin showing film of the " Siberian
>> conditions" and "snow storms" suffered round the London area with deep
> snow
>> ( about 2 inches) making driving trecherous , well being from Michigan
> where
>> they know a thing or two about snow ( overnight falls measured in feet )
>> I
>> can't stop her laughing .
>
> Well there is a little bit of truth to it, but not for the reason the
> media
> imply. If you are from Michigan you probably used snow tyres [tires] in
> the
> winter and all-season tyres in the summer. Here all you can buy is tyres
> that are a menace at temperatures even fractionally below zero. They may
> as
> well be made of leather. THAT is what causes the road chaos.
>
> BTW, before setting off for the Krkonose Mountains on the Czech border
> with
> Poland last February I tried to buy some snow tyres here. They asked "How
> gnarly do you want them?" That told me all I needed to know! (Snow tyres
> are quite smooth, with narrow, self-cleaning grooves. But mainly they are
> formulated to maintain their elasticity at extremely low temperatures.)
>
> Roy
>
Ah herself is a Michiganer oi be from Cheshire moi deer . I agree
different horses for different courses tho' narrow tyres for snow to get
the penetration, block pattern are better in that respect which is just as
well as thats most pukka 4x4 tyres but hard packed snow is a different
prospect.The experienced ( that would be folk driving crew buses
around Hope Valley Derbyshire) are known to use studded tyres which is
about
the only way you get out of Castleton when the snow gets packed too hard
for the tread to cut into to the snow.Studded which are of course hopeless
on tarmac
(and illegal in the UK if they are causing damage to the tarmac) but fun to
watch
in the Andros Trophy
http://www.kia.com.au/cms/default.asp?action=article&ID=575
Derek
-5 C last night still no snow





 
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