OT: New Credit Card Scam

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Alex

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I don't know how tru this is, i was forwarded it, but beware anyway.


<-------Begin Forwarded Message------->

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and
I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge
number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase
pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card
that was issued by( name of bank). Did you purchase an
Anti-Telemarketing Device for £249.99 from company based in (name of
any town or city)?

When you say "No" the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing
a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and
the charges range from £150 to £249, just under the £250 purchase
pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit
will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"

You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a Fraud
investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800
number listed on the back of your card and ask for Security. You will
need to refer to this Control Number.

The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it
again?"

Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then
says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask
you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers". There are 7
numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the
security Numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These
are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove
you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to
him.

After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct,
I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen,
and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?"
After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't
hesitate to call back; if you do....", and hangs up. You actually say
very little, and they never ask for or tell you your Card number.

But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20
minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security
Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new
purchase of £249.99 was charged to our card.

Long story made short - we made a real fraud report and closed the
VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers
want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it
to them.

Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for
verification of their conversation.

The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
card as they already know the information since they issued the card!
If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN you think you're receiving
a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see
charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late
and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report. What makes this
more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason
Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
scam.

This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police
report, as instructed by VISA.

The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They
also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.
Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By informing each
other,we protect each other."
 
> The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the
> card as they already know the information since they issued the card!
>

Not strictly speaking true, I was speaking to the fraud dept of my visa
account, and they asked me (amongst other things) for the 3 digit code, to
confirm my identity. The difference being that I had called them, so I knew
the call was genuine!
(and to bring this right back on topic, the reason I had to call the fraud
dept was because they had just bounced my payment for my RR P38!! I had to
do some additional security stuff to allow the payment as it was unusually
large for my card usage pattern)


> If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN you think you're receiving
> a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see
> charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late
> and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report. What makes this
> more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason
> Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA
> scam.
>

If you do get a call like this, you need to make sure all your cards get
changed, the scammers obviously already have your numbers, address, name and
phone number.
The only thing they don't have is the 3 digit security code.


 
SimonJ wrote:
> (and to bring this right back on topic, the reason I had to call the
> fraud dept was because they had just bounced my payment for my RR
> P38!! I had to do some additional security stuff to allow the payment
> as it was unusually large for my card usage pattern)


They bounced a payment for a scuba rebreather upgrade for me when it was
only 12% of my credit limit. When they phoned I said "pay it" so they bounced
it again. I got the supplier to put it through in two slices and it went in. They say
they get that with Visa quite often.

nigelH


 
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:51:22 +0000 (UTC), "Nigel Hewitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>SimonJ wrote:
>> (and to bring this right back on topic, the reason I had to call the
>> fraud dept was because they had just bounced my payment for my RR
>> P38!! I had to do some additional security stuff to allow the payment
>> as it was unusually large for my card usage pattern)

>
>They bounced a payment for a scuba rebreather upgrade for me when it was
>only 12% of my credit limit. When they phoned I said "pay it" so they bounced
>it again. I got the supplier to put it through in two slices and it went in. They say
>they get that with Visa quite often.


When i bought my 101 the payment wouldnt go through on my visa either.
I rang them up and they said they hadnt stopped it. half an hour later
they rang me to say that they had stopped a big payment, but i'd
managed to mess about and pay via other methods by then.
Its a stupid system if it has that much of a delay on it!

 
ot but funny.
ive got a mate who works for a bmw dealer. a guy came in one day and bought a new bmw for 55 grand. he paid by american express gold card!
went through with no problem.
 
On 2006-02-20, Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com <[email protected]> wrote:

> A quick Google will normally reveal these Hoaxes for what they are.


... especially if it's got "please pass this to all your friends" or similar in it.

Mind you it's at least almost plausible, and could happen if the thief
already had your address and credit card details and all that was
missing was the 3-digit security code. This 3-digit code isn't
supposed to be stored on websites or on any system, but some thefts
from websites have included the code, stored by the website against
the advice of the credit card companies.

Now if only the CC companies would stop calling people and asking them
to verify their identies with the usual questions...

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Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
In message <[email protected]>
Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2006-02-20, Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A quick Google will normally reveal these Hoaxes for what they are.

>
> .. especially if it's got "please pass this to all your friends" or similar in it.
>
> Mind you it's at least almost plausible, and could happen if the thief
> already had your address and credit card details and all that was
> missing was the 3-digit security code. This 3-digit code isn't
> supposed to be stored on websites or on any system, but some thefts
> from websites have included the code, stored by the website against
> the advice of the credit card companies.
>
> Now if only the CC companies would stop calling people and asking them
> to verify their identies with the usual questions...
>


DONT! Tell them to write to you, thats what I did and they don't
bother ringing now. I started that when the person ringing from Lloyds
could hardly speak English.......

Richard
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"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In message <[email protected]>
> Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Now if only the CC companies would stop calling people and asking them
> > to verify their identies with the usual questions...
> >

>
> DONT! Tell them to write to you, thats what I did and they don't
> bother ringing now. I started that when the person ringing from Lloyds
> could hardly speak English.......
>


Should that be "Rroyds" and "Engrish"?


 
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