OT: Arc activated headshield

Saw these in Machine Mart and they looked sooo like Marvin (if you
don't know who Marvin is, shame on you) and given that I'm optionally
working with one arm at present, decided to but one:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010120679&r=2038&g=105

Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
you'll excuse the pun) good.

Also got one of these:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010110135&r=2029&g=105

and can vouch that it _will_ weld 4mm alluminium with absolute ease
(you need to 'get a feel for it' once the ball is rolling, but it's
'kin clean as a babies whassit). The Argon is only supplied in those
kin-expensive little disposable bottles though - where can I get
larger ones?

I've sorted the CO2 courtesy of a local pub Landlord who came around
and asked "is thies ani yooos 't ya wi' ya weldin' on yon Jeeps"
(dunno why we let a Mac lad into Sheffield, but there you go...)


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In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
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> Saw these in Machine Mart and they looked sooo like Marvin (if you
> don't know who Marvin is, shame on you) and given that I'm optionally
> working with one arm at present, decided to but one:
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010120679&r=2038&g=105

Life , don't talk to me about life, brain the size of a planet.........
your right it does look like Marvin
GGJ

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Saw these in Machine Mart and they looked sooo like Marvin (if you
> don't know who Marvin is, shame on you) and given that I'm optionally
> working with one arm at present, decided to but one:
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010120679&r=2038&g=105
>
> Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
> on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
> you'll excuse the pun) good.
>
> Also got one of these:
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010110135&r=2029&g=105
>
> and can vouch that it _will_ weld 4mm alluminium with absolute ease
> (you need to 'get a feel for it' once the ball is rolling, but it's
> 'kin clean as a babies whassit). The Argon is only supplied in those
> kin-expensive little disposable bottles though - where can I get
> larger ones?
>
> I've sorted the CO2 courtesy of a local pub Landlord who came around
> and asked "is thies ani yooos 't ya wi' ya weldin' on yon Jeeps"
> (dunno why we let a Mac lad into Sheffield, but there you go...)
>
>
> --
> "We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
> of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
> increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
> In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005
re: the mask me too cant understand how I managed without one .
I got mine off ebay more darth vader than marvin the only drawback I've
found is on sunny days the bugger goes dark while you are moving towards
striking an arc with the light behind you bit like "Joo Janta 200
Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses " of course there is a nice dual
purpose one welding and Halloween
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Welding-Helme...22813129QQcategoryZ113743QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Vicky is threatening to airbrush mine pink ............
Derek

Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> Saw these in Machine Mart and they looked sooo like Marvin (if you
> don't know who Marvin is, shame on you) and given that I'm optionally
> working with one arm at present, decided to but one:
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010120679&r=2038&g=105
>
> Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
> on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
> you'll excuse the pun) good.
>
> Also got one of these:
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010110135&r=2029&g=105
>
> and can vouch that it _will_ weld 4mm alluminium with absolute ease
> (you need to 'get a feel for it' once the ball is rolling, but it's
> 'kin clean as a babies whassit). The Argon is only supplied in those
> kin-expensive little disposable bottles though - where can I get
> larger ones?
>
> I've sorted the CO2 courtesy of a local pub Landlord who came around
> and asked "is thies ani yooos 't ya wi' ya weldin' on yon Jeeps"
> (dunno why we let a Mac lad into Sheffield, but there you go...)

First one I bought failed, & failed 'dangerous' instead of safe - it went
clear & stayed that way. My next one the power makes it go clear, so if you
forget to turn it on, or it fails, it remains dark.

Make sure yours is like that if you don't want arc eye ...

Karen

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- Slartibartfast

On 2006-05-27, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
> on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
> you'll excuse the pun) good.

I was intending to get one once I start learning to weld, but was
concerned about the possibility of it not working at the crucial
moment. Has anyone ever stared directly at the arc with no protection
by mistake? Any lasting damage?

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Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2006-05-27, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>
>> Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
>> on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
>> you'll excuse the pun) good.
>
> I was intending to get one once I start learning to weld, but was
> concerned about the possibility of it not working at the crucial
> moment. Has anyone ever stared directly at the arc with no protection
> by mistake? Any lasting damage?
>
> --
> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

I used to have a chair reserved at the local A+E for treating arc eye when I
was welding escorts for a living.It's not nice at the time but so far there
there has been no long term effects. I think the most damaging thing to the
eyes are the sparks these have to be dug out of your eyes like splinters
(with a needle) but with a reacttolight mask you should be ok as the eyes
will be protected from these even if the glass stops working.

Icky

Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-05-27, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>
>> Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
>> on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
>> you'll excuse the pun) good.
>
> I was intending to get one once I start learning to weld, but was
> concerned about the possibility of it not working at the crucial
> moment. Has anyone ever stared directly at the arc with no protection
> by mistake? Any lasting damage?

No lasting damage when mine failed - I threw it out & bought a fail safe
model. A day or two of watering sore eyes, as far as I remember

Karen

--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast

Gary G Jones wrote:

|| "Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
|| news:[email protected]...
||| Saw these in Machine Mart and they looked sooo like Marvin (if you
||| don't know who Marvin is, shame on you) and given that I'm
||| optionally working with one arm at present, decided to but one:
|||
||| http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=010120679&r=2038&g=105
||
|| Life , don't talk to me about life, brain the size of a
|| planet......... your right it does look like Marvin
|| GGJ

My favourite Marvin line:

Life: loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it.

--
Rich
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I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.

> Saw these in Machine Mart and they looked sooo like Marvin (if you
> don't know who Marvin is, shame on you) and given that I'm optionally
> working with one arm at present, decided to but one:
>
Machine mart, don't talk to me about machine mart. Brain the size of a
peanut and they expect to be able to sell you stuff............

Went into my local machine mart the other day to buy a tool box.
The one I wanted wasn't on display, so I asked the muppet behind the counter
if they had on in stock.....

Mup."Yep, we've got one of those"
Me "Could I have a look at one then"
Mup "We don't have one open"
Me "Well I'd like to see it before I buy it"

Muppet then turns on his heels and slouches off into the store room
grumbling away to himself.
Several minutes later, he comes back out and slams a very large cardboard
box on the counter in front of me.

Me "Ok, can I see it then"
Mup "Its a seven draw tool chest, it's a tool chest with seven drawers,
nothing much to see really"
Me "
"
Me"
" (gobsmacked)
Me "Well I'd like to see it before I buy it if its all right with you".

Muppet did then with much reluctance and grumbling unpack the bloody thing,
I couldn't believe that this total prat could behave like that, and that no
other staff would intervene. The only reason I didn't just walk out was that
I needed the box there and then as it was being installed on a job.
I can safely say that machine mart have no lost a customer for life, it's
not like their gear is particularly good anyway.

>> Having only used it for around 30 minutes, I'm at a loss to know how
>> on earth I've ever not had one before - blindingly (or not so, if
>> you'll excuse the pun) good.
>
> I was intending to get one once I start learning to weld, but was
> concerned about the possibility of it not working at the crucial
> moment. Has anyone ever stared directly at the arc with no protection
> by mistake? Any lasting damage?
>
AFAIK, the UV protection is permanent, its only the visible light filter
that switches on and off with the arc, so even if it failed, the worst that
could happen is you would be dazzled for a while, but I'm pretty sure that
they all fail to dark anyway.

In article <[email protected]>, SimonJ <[email protected]> writes
>Muppet did then with much reluctance and grumbling unpack the bloody
>thing, I couldn't believe that this total prat could behave like that,
>and that no other staff would intervene. The only reason I didn't just
>walk out was that I needed the box there and then as it was being
>installed on a job. I can safely say that machine mart have no lost a
>customer for life, it's not like their gear is particularly good anyway.

Bought a floor standing pillar drill from them at Christmas. When
unpacked, discovered that the motor mounting plate was bent (so the
pulley rubbed the belt), the chuck guard was the wrong size (so wouldn't
fit, and the chuck is rubbish.

I first contacted Clarke, who were very helpful and apologetic, and said
they had the parts in stock but I would have to go through Machine Mart
first. MM told me on two separate occasions that they had ordered the
spares. Six months down the line... zilch.

So I 'mended' the motor plate with a big hammer, and use the thing
without a chuck guard. I'm still looking for a good chuck at a sensible
price.

Will think twice before doing _that_ again...


Regards,

Simonm.

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On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:39:20 +0100, "SimonJ" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Me "Ok, can I see it then"
>Mup "Its a seven draw tool chest, it's a tool chest with seven drawers,
>nothing much to see really"
>Me "
>"
>Me"
>" (gobsmacked)
>Me "Well I'd like to see it before I buy it if its all right with you".

Not trying to be picky here but what else did you expect to see by
looking at it that you coulnt have seen from looking at the other ones
in the same range and the picture in the book?
Its the same as the one with 9 drawers but with less drawers!

I think a lot of machine mart is down the the staff in the branch. The
ones here seem great.
If i want a tool and dont want to mail order my choice is halfords or
machinemart. machinemart very easily win!

On Sun, 28 May 2006 19:04:58 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I think a lot of machine mart is down the the staff in the branch. The
>ones here seem great.

Ditto for the Sheffield branch. They're a smashing bunch and not at
all unhelpful or stuffy. I needed some 5" cutting discs and a 6" wire
brush wheel for my bench grinder. I thought I had a wire wheel
somewhere so didn't bother. Asked (aged mind) for a 6 inch cutting
disc. Chap smiled, gave me the 5" one he knew I meant to ask for.

More than anything else, they're 'nice', and don't seem to hurried,
keen to answer totally stupid questions and not too in your face when
you're just mulching.

I buy ****loads on-line these days, but I'm trying to keep the balance
of supporting 'real' shops - lest all we end up with is on-line, with
no hands on, no local jobs and no real chance of living without the
tinternet.


--
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one
of distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being
increasingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, formerly of BT Labs
In memory of Brian {Hamilton Kelly} who logged off 15th September 2005