OT-A little story about Amtech tools

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:03:57 GMT, SteveG <_@_._> wrote:

>Still waiting .....

the lazy buggers! I have a shop near me so i always just visit in
person.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:14:02 +0000, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:47:27 +0000, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>In my experience machine mart have always been pretty good for bits
>>and pieces for the stuff they sell - and they guys in the shop always
>>seem to know their stuff.
>
>Yeah. I'm going to have to keep away from Machine Mart - recent
>purchases include an engine hoist and an engine stand - the former was
>'interesting' to assemble with totally inaccessible space to try and
>get nuts on bolts for the casters - resulted in a slipped disc in mi
>back...

mine from MM was completely assembled, but then it was the display
model and I got some £ knocked off for that!
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101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

In article <[email protected]>, Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> writes
>mine from MM was completely assembled, but then it was the display
>model and I got some £ knocked off for that!

Mixed fortunes with MM. Was lured by a 'VAT-free day' two weeks ago, and
bought a pillar drill. So far: guard is wrong size (so won't fit) pulley
bearings not properly seated, motor leaning at crazy angle (mounting
plate), table grub screw missing, table surface ground so badly it was
actually sharp (and I don't mean at the edges).

Anyway, what do I expect for 150 quid? Of course it's built down to a
price, but I knew that when I bought it, so I'm not upset. The bits I
couldn't do anything about myself (guard and motor mounting plate),
Clarke were very helpful about - their support contract is with MM, so I
spoke to their helpline and then the shop. Everyone in the chain
knowledgeable and helpful; parts on order. So we'll see...

It's still a useful bit of kit, with an MT2 taper on the quill and an
MT3 on the chuck (which surprised me slightly). I've already sorted the
dolls-house 'trunking' with it (1/8" x 6" holes in the edge of 10mm
MDF), and have umpteen tricky repair jobs backed up.

All the jobs on Marge? They'll wait until the weather improves

Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a cheapie
from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for lots of things.

Regards,

Simonm.

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On or around Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:25:47 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a cheapie
>from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for lots of things.
>

try http://www.jlindustrial.co.uk

be warned, it's easy to spend much money with them.
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In article <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> writes
>On or around Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:25:47 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a cheapie
>>from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for lots of things.
>>
>
>try http://www.jlindustrial.co.uk
>
>be warned, it's easy to spend much money with them.

Wow, brilliant!

ISWYM about spending too much... but I also see they have a machine vice
on offer at £24...

....could everyone just look away from their monitors for a sec... Ta!

Many, many thanks.

Regards,

Simonm.

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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:25:47 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>> Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a cheapie
>>from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for lots of things.
>
> try http://www.jlindustrial.co.uk
>
> be warned, it's easy to spend much money with them.
And never, ever read their special offers lists.

Steve

SteveG wrote:
> SteveG wrote:

>>
>> Well they didn't just tell me to go forth ... but I'm still waiting
>> for the call back
>>
>
> Still waiting .....
>

Hey not bad, they called me back today. Sorry sir, can't help we don't
have access to spare parts for that item.

Never mind sourcing is in hand

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Regards

Steve G

On or around Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:11 +0000, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:25:47 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>> Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a cheapie
>>>from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for lots of things.
>>
>> try http://www.jlindustrial.co.uk
>>
>> be warned, it's easy to spend much money with them.
>And never, ever read their special offers lists.

pssst! wanna buy a lathe?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7582920260
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:11:23 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On or around Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:11 +0000, Steve Taylor
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>> On or around Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:25:47 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>> Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a cheapie
>>>>from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for lots of things.
>>>
>>> try http://www.jlindustrial.co.uk
>>>
>>> be warned, it's easy to spend much money with them.
>>And never, ever read their special offers lists.
>
>pssst! wanna buy a lathe?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7582920260

lalalalalalala i'm not listening!
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Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Financial Director
101 Ambi, undergoing camper conversion www.simoni.co.uk
1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....

Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:25:11 +0000, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Austin Shackles wrote:
>>> On or around Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:25:47 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>> Does anyone know a good source for a machine vice? I bought a
>>>> cheapie from MM as a tide-me-over, but it's really too rough for
>>>> lots of things.
>>>
>>> >What is a machine vice, it's not a bench vice is it?
Alan
>
>
>

Roberts wrote:
>>>>> What is a machine vice, it's not a bench vice is it?

A machine vice is used on a machine like a miller or pillar drill to
hold work square and safe. Its vice mounted on a flat plate like this.
http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/jaw.jpg

Fancy ones can be swivelled and / or tilted.

Steve

Steve wrote:
> Roberts wrote:
>>>>>> What is a machine vice, it's not a bench vice is it?
>
> A machine vice is used on a machine like a miller or pillar drill to
> hold work square and safe. Its vice mounted on a flat plate like this.
> http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/jaw.jpg
>
> Fancy ones can be swivelled and / or tilted.
>
> Steve

Thanks Steve - Never too old to learn
Robert

In article <[email protected]>, Roberts
<[email protected]> writes
>Steve wrote:
>> Roberts wrote:
>> http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/jaw.jpg
>>
>> Fancy ones can be swivelled and / or tilted.
>>
>> Steve
>
>Thanks Steve - Never too old to learn
>Robert

[about the ones in the URL]

As they say down our way, "Gert lush!", but way out of my league,
'specially for a £200 pillar drill. The search continues...

Regards,

Simonm.

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:25:44 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

> As they say down our way, "Gert lush!", but way out of my league,
> 'specially for a £200 pillar drill. The search continues...

Machine Mart do 'em, starting bottom of page 2 and on if you bung
"vice" into the search box. Tempted to get a cross vice as it (should)
make lining things up a bit easier.

I've a 4" (I think) ordinary drill press vice, unused, in the garage
that I bought for my pillar drill(*) but it doesn't fit the table.
Cost more in postage than its value...

(*)£39 shed special, probably not the most accurate bit of kit in the
world but it does what I want and is miles better than hand held
drilling.

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On or around Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:08:04 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:25:44 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>> As they say down our way, "Gert lush!", but way out of my league,
>> 'specially for a £200 pillar drill. The search continues...
>
>Machine Mart do 'em, starting bottom of page 2 and on if you bung
>"vice" into the search box. Tempted to get a cross vice as it (should)
>make lining things up a bit easier.

the machine mart ones are very crude, though, and not especially good. I
have 2 here

the one with all the slides on it is better, but occupies a fair bit of
space under yer drill.
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face by frightening people in the street.
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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:08:04 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:25:44 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>>
>>> As they say down our way, "Gert lush!", but way out of my league,
>>> 'specially for a £200 pillar drill. The search continues...
>> Machine Mart do 'em, starting bottom of page 2 and on if you bung
>> "vice" into the search box. Tempted to get a cross vice as it (should)
>> make lining things up a bit easier.
>
> the machine mart ones are very crude, though, and not especially good. I
> have 2 here
>
> the one with all the slides on it is better, but occupies a fair bit of
> space under yer drill.

Yes, but you may as well by a small milling machine if you do that.
Axminster have "baby" ones for 235 quid, including VAT and delivery.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/recno/3/product-Axminster-Micro-Mill-33370.htm

And a tilting head on that too.#

Steve

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:34:27 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yes, but you may as well by a small milling machine if you do that.
>Axminster have "baby" ones for 235 quid, including VAT and delivery.
>
>http://www.axminster.co.uk/recno/3/product-Axminster-Micro-Mill-33370.htm

I've 'kin warned you about this before...



(Getting some use from a certain Uni dept at present - have just
killed 50 One Pound coins in order to get my new prototype made!)

Mother wrote:

> I've 'kin warned you about this before...
<whistles>
I don't know WHAT you mean ????
<+volume>
<runs away>

> (Getting some use from a certain Uni dept at present - have just
> killed 50 One Pound coins in order to get my new prototype made!)
>
Me, I'd have turned off 50 ally blanksand practiced on them....

Steve

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:18:26 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> (Getting some use from a certain Uni dept at present - have just
>> killed 50 One Pound coins in order to get my new prototype made!)
>>
>Me, I'd have turned off 50 ally blanksand practiced on them....

We've already gone through that - this is for the final prototype -
and nothing is as easy once you come to do it 'for real'. Cracked it
now - and have a decent result.


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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:55:08 +0000, Austin Shackles wrote:

> the machine mart ones are very crude, ...

What do you expect for less than a tenner? I'm not into precise (let
alone precison) drilling in metal, most of my work is in wood. Getting
true (as in 90 degrees) countersunk holes consistently down the face
of a batten or the same distance from the edge of a board is my main
use.

> the one with all the slides on it is better, but occupies a fair bit
> of space under yer drill.

I've played with one in a shop, not bad but not especially good
either. The height taken up might be an issue with my small and cheapo
drill press.

Yes it would be nice to have a calibrated sliding vice or even a
miller but I just can't justify that expense. A cheapy and spending 4
times longer setting up will have to do.

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