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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:14:07 +0100, rads
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Interesting. As posted earlier (topic Hot Rangerover), I'm sure mine
>RR runs hotter with the new water pump I recently fitted. The pumps
>are not all the same then?

I took the original 101 pump off and replaced it with a similar pump
which had twice as many blades. I had thought the old pump may have
been spinning on the impellor (if that makes sense?). but seems fine
now it's out. Personal feeling is the viscous fan and rad cowl make
the real difference.


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from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:14:07 +0100, rads

> I took the original 101 pump off and replaced it with a similar pump
> which had twice as many blades. I had thought the old pump may have
> been spinning on the impellor (if that makes sense?). but seems fine
> now it's out. Personal feeling is the viscous fan and rad cowl make
> the real difference.


Right... just be a star and hang the spare wheel off the windscreen wipers
with a birra rope and see if the engine stays cool.. If so aI'll bung mine
on too :)

Lee D


 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:28:13 GMT, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Right... just be a star and hang the spare wheel off the windscreen wipers
>with a birra rope and see if the engine stays cool..

Ah, the masterplan is disclosed...

The wheel will probably be going on the front - but on the frame so
there'll be at least 18" gap - 'nuf for air to gerrin methinks.

Course, I need to put the Rangie airbags on to counter the negative
cambre on the springs first. Ho hum...


--
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from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Ah, the masterplan is disclosed...
>
> The wheel will probably be going on the front - but on the frame so
> there'll be at least 18" gap - 'nuf for air to gerrin methinks.
>
> Course, I need to put the Rangie airbags on to counter the negative
> cambre on the springs first. Ho hum...

You been pie munching again?

<look for suitable hiding place>
<runaway>

Lee D


 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:26:03 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>
>I took the original 101 pump off and replaced it with a similar pump
>which had twice as many blades. I had thought the old pump may have
>been spinning on the impellor (if that makes sense?). but seems fine
>now it's out. Personal feeling is the viscous fan and rad cowl make
>the real difference.

Understood.

Was the one you fitted anything special? The one I am suspicious of
was a low cost pattern part.

David
 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:47:04 +0100, rads
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Was the one you fitted anything special?

Not really. I was talking to Holly at RPI last year and he went and
had a look on the shelf. I ordered what he came back with :)


--
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from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:26:03 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:14:07 +0100, rads
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Interesting. As posted earlier (topic Hot Rangerover), I'm sure mine
>>RR runs hotter with the new water pump I recently fitted. The pumps
>>are not all the same then?
>
>I took the original 101 pump off and replaced it with a similar pump
>which had twice as many blades. I had thought the old pump may have
>been spinning on the impellor (if that makes sense?). but seems fine
>now it's out. Personal feeling is the viscous fan and rad cowl make
>the real difference.

Can you get an electric water pump?. Ive been them mentioned for older
saabs (for which replacement water pumps are scarce). Would one of
them be suitable for a 101?. Mine still gets warm.
 
On or around Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:16:09 +0100, "David French"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:BD2034A1.BCD8%[email protected]...
>> Never mind. There is always the LRO show at Peterborough in September.
>> Saw the brand new LR3. Looks Ok from the front and from the side it
>doesn't
>> seem to have so much of a distinct look as previous versions have with the
>> step roof. Hated the back end though. Looks just like a van, especially
>> with not having a spare on the rear. Saying that I wouldn't turn one down
>if
>> offered me one for free!
>
>I saw one of those Gibbs Aquadas in Dorset on Saturday. Hmmm...
>http://www.aquada.co.uk/
>First time I've seen one on the road. Or in the water for that matter.
>
>But look at their latest concept!
>http://www.aquada.co.uk/gibbstech/hsaapps_humdinga.htm
>
>I *want* one of these. But I think it'll cost just a little bit more than I
>can afford.

does look fun, don't it.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink;
Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by;
Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)
 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:00:56 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Can you get an electric water pump?. Ive been them mentioned for older
>saabs (for which replacement water pumps are scarce). Would one of
>them be suitable for a 101?.

I would doubt it - however I'm sure I'll be corrected.

>Mine still gets warm.

It should do, it has hot water running through it ;-)


--
Some Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available
from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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On or around Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:55:16 +0100, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Steve Taylor wrote:
>
>> Austin Shackles wrote:
>>> On or around Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:50:44 +0100, "Badger"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us
>>> thusly:
>>>
>>>
>>>>even worse than the old 4 speed auto in the mini / austin
>>>>1100/1300!
>>>
>>>
>>> Oi. me dad worked on the design team of that one. One thing you can say
>>> is that they were ahead of the times in putting 4 gears in it.
>>
>> Yes, BUT they are supposed to stay IN the box. Not automatically deposit
>> them on the road.....
>>
>
>Two words.
>
>Hillman Electromatic.
>
>
>The damn thing used iron filings and an electromagnet instead of a viscous
>torque convertor.
>
>Now imagine *any* moisture getting in there.


Austin had an interesting CVT ages ago as well. I dunno if I can describe
it in words or by ascii-art, but I remember seeing an article about it in
classic cars ages ago, someone had restored about the only one left in
existence.

OK...

Imagine a flat plate like a lathe surface plate only thicker. Imagine a
second one, facing the first. The first is the driving plate and the second
is the driven plate. Now imagine that you cut a circular groove around each
plate, such that the section of the groove is most of a semicircle. The
outer edge of the groove is near the outside diameter of the plate, the
inner edge is not far from the centre. Now put the 2 plates together,
facing eachother, so that the 2 grooves (one on each plate) both co-incide
with the same hypothetical circle.

The drive was transmitted from one to the other by a set of wheels, arranged
on a carrier in between the 2 plates. The wheels are capable of being
tilted so that they can align from the inner edge of the driving plate to
the outer edge of the driven plate, around to where they align the opposite
way 'round. thus, 1:1 is in the "middle", and it gears down on the one side
and up on the other. suitable choice of final drive ratio achieves the
right overall ratios.

I imagine the problems this device suffered were mainly due to slip. the
wheels could have clutch-style lining around their periphery (and may have
had, for all I know).

and now, I hand you over to the people trying to sell 'em:

http://www.torotrak.com/howitworks.html
http://www.torotrak.com/variator.html

although they seem to be using two.

the second link has moving pictures...

http://www.torotrak.com/media/virtualdrive.swf

interesting site. If they can get the traction fluid sorted, they've solved
the problems of mechanical contact and wear.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink;
Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by;
Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)
 
in article [email protected], Lee_D at
[email protected] wrote on 18/7/04
1:56 pm:

> :-(
>
> Did a tidy up in the garage yesterday..... or should I say the tip of the
> iceberg.... Ebay be affraid...be very affraid!

Bruce keeps threatening to sort his workshop out...properly. He started on
the yard the other day and has only gone through a quarter of it and taken
two trailers full of rubbish to the tip already.
>
> Found about 10 unstarted projects, so this year have aborted the trip on the
> strength that If I go to Biling there will be 15 unstarted projects sat on
> the Bench.

Bruce has a pile of wood in his workshop - bathroom cabinet, fish tank
stand, ladders for the kids beds(he did make these, just not the ladders and
the have to climb on chairs) plate rack, the top half of the welsh dresser
he made....the list goes on. He has several projects he started, but not
finished too.
>
> Hows the weather there? Rained here pretty much most of yesterday... Todays
> not been so bad but it's not what you call sunny either.

The weather there turned out to be rather nice. Had a very pleasant day
minus kidsIt did look like it was going to chuckit down when we got up to
go, so went prepared with wellies and brollies in the boot just in case.
Should have packed some sun cream as it brightened up on the journey down
the M1 and was just about right.
>
> A little peeved not to have made it.. but on the bright side..and fingers
> crossed LRC are delivering Mrs D's Disco tomorrow.. Went to collect
> yesterday but there were a few hiccups...but give them credit they are
> working on them and promised delivery Monday morning. Wasn't actually due
> for collection till Monday but we were hoping to get some Biling miles on it
> before going off our expedition.
>
> Lee D

Never mind. There is always the LRO show at Peterborough in September.
Saw the brand new LR3. Looks Ok from the front and from the side it doesn't
seem to have so much of a distinct look as previous versions have with the
step roof. Hated the back end though. Looks just like a van, especially
with not having a spare on the rear. Saying that I wouldn't turn one down if
offered me one for free!

Had to prevent Bruce from the purchase of one of those small motorbikes for
Isaac yesterday. Birthday present he says. It isn't his birthday until
September.
--
Nikki

1990 Discovery V8i
1985 Range Rover V8
1975 88" Series III 2.25 petrol
1979 Series III Lightweight 2.25 petrol

 
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:56:06 GMT, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hows the weather there? Rained here pretty much most of yesterday... Todays
>not been so bad but it's not what you call sunny either.

As I left home yesterday it was raining so hard that the wipers on my
car couldnt keep up when on fastest speed. I wasnt really looking
forward to getting out of the car later.

As I got closer to the show it got nicer and nicer and it ended being
a really nice day with lots of sun! It was the best day (weather wise)
ive seen for months :)

I hope your new toy is ready by monday!
 
Judith wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:07:29 +0100, Nikki Cluley
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Looks just like a van, especially
>>with not having a spare on the rear. Saying that I wouldn't turn one down
>>if offered me one for free!
>
> I saw it too. It was only when I was driving home that I thought
> "Where is the spare wheel?". Does anyone here know?
>

ISTR something saying that it was in a cage carrier under the load area like
the old Austin Maxi used to do.

I do *not* want to be the sod who has to dig that out on the way home after
a day green laning in the ****ing rain.

P.
 
Lee_D wrote:

> :-(
>
> Did a tidy up in the garage yesterday..... or should I say the tip of the
> iceberg.... Ebay be affraid...be very affraid!
>
> Found about 10 unstarted projects, so this year have aborted the trip on
> the strength that If I go to Biling there will be 15 unstarted projects
> sat on the Bench.
>
> Hows the weather there? Rained here pretty much most of yesterday...
> Todays not been so bad but it's not what you call sunny either.
>
> A little peeved not to have made it.. but on the bright side..and fingers
> crossed LRC are delivering Mrs D's Disco tomorrow.. Went to collect
> yesterday but there were a few hiccups...but give them credit they are
> working on them and promised delivery Monday morning. Wasn't actually due
> for collection till Monday but we were hoping to get some Biling miles on
> it before going off our expedition.
>
> Lee D
> --
> ________________________________
> www.lrproject.com
> Just a little hobby site about Landies :)
> ________________________________
Spent Saturday mostly shivering inside with cold, wet, windy conditions
outside, after Friday at Mudgee Field Day, where the weather was good.
Sunday was fine, sunny, cold. Cut a load of firewood with the 2a, about 1
tonne. This morning (Monday) was 1degC when I got up, but almost cloudless,
so looks like it will be a good day.
JD
 
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:54:27 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>No chance, give me a manual any day.

Yeah, I guess I do tend to agree, however, I reckon an auto will soak
up the extra power without putting too much strain on the drive train
together with giving me some space when I rebuild the cab.


--
Some Land Roveresque (101 biased), links available
from: http://links.solis.co.uk/Geek/X4_Land_Rover/
I also have a little Land Rover site biased toward
my beloved 101 "Grumble", at: http://www.101fc.net


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there's a group FAQ: http://www.aflfaq.dyndns.info
 
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:30:46 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:28:05 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Might make sense, you have pushed up the power and I imagine all the
>>goodies add a bit of weight so a torque converter might soften the
>>shock to the drive train a bit.
>
>This is exactly my thinking around this.

I saw you had posted these thoughts as mine went on it's way. I had
actually been considering this when you posted your problem on the way
to Billing.

AJH
 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:26:03 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:14:07 +0100, rads
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Interesting. As posted earlier (topic Hot Rangerover), I'm sure mine
>>RR runs hotter with the new water pump I recently fitted. The pumps
>>are not all the same then?
>
>I took the original 101 pump off and replaced it with a similar pump
>which had twice as many blades. I had thought the old pump may have
>been spinning on the impellor (if that makes sense?). but seems fine
>now it's out. Personal feeling is the viscous fan and rad cowl make
>the real difference.

Can you get an electric water pump?. Ive been them mentioned for older
saabs (for which replacement water pumps are scarce). Would one of
them be suitable for a 101?. Mine still gets warm.
 
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:17:13 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:42:06 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:00:56 +0100, Tom Woods <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Can you get an electric water pump?. Ive been them mentioned for older
>>>saabs (for which replacement water pumps are scarce). Would one of
>>>them be suitable for a 101?.
>>
>>I would doubt it - however I'm sure I'll be corrected.
>
>Right. Have found some electric water pumps!

I'm led to believe that certain cars have them as standard - Austin
was after one for his "LPG air con" idea. I'd expect them to be fairly
cheap from a breaker's yard.

Austin, which models of car were you looking at?

--
QrizB

"On second thought, let's not go to Z'Ha'Dum. It is a silly place."
 
"Nikki Cluley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BD2034A1.BCD8%[email protected]...
> Never mind. There is always the LRO show at Peterborough in September.
> Saw the brand new LR3. Looks Ok from the front and from the side it
doesn't
> seem to have so much of a distinct look as previous versions have with the
> step roof. Hated the back end though. Looks just like a van, especially
> with not having a spare on the rear. Saying that I wouldn't turn one down
if
> offered me one for free!

I saw one of those Gibbs Aquadas in Dorset on Saturday. Hmmm...
http://www.aquada.co.uk/
First time I've seen one on the road. Or in the water for that matter.

But look at their latest concept!
http://www.aquada.co.uk/gibbstech/hsaapps_humdinga.htm

I *want* one of these. But I think it'll cost just a little bit more than I
can afford.

David


 
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