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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-08-13, Jonathan Spencer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Saw it in Lambeth last week. Wotisit?
>
>
> Volvo "Sugga" command-car version AKA TP21, 1950's or thereabouts.

They're good fun - the name means "sow", by the way, as in "female pig".
Rather apt, really.

The current Volvo Tgb 11 is even better, that's right after the 110 WMIK
on my want list...
 
On 2006-08-15, Torak <[email protected]> wrote:

> The current Volvo Tgb 11 is even better, that's right after the 110 WMIK
> on my want list...

I don't think the TGB11 is current, IIRC they're late 1960's vintage
and parts are hard to get these days.

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>
> Saw it in Lambeth last week. Wotisit?
>
> www.jonathan-spencer.co.uk/images/Truck/Truck.htm
>
>
> If replying, take out the NOTME :eek:)
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
> The army doctor said "Go behind the curtain and remove your clothes",
> I said "Aren't you supposed to buy me dinner first?"
> Spike Milligan


Saw it this evening when I cycled home. It looks even better in the flesh!


 
Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-08-15, Torak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>The current Volvo Tgb 11 is even better, that's right after the 110 WMIK
>>on my want list...
>
>
> I don't think the TGB11 is current, IIRC they're late 1960's vintage
> and parts are hard to get these days.

They're more current than the "Valpen" - the old Volvo.. what, 313 or
some such? And they're certainly still in use, with a rather
nice-looking replacement due to be phased in over the next few years.

They're definitely still in use - I spent most of my military service in
one back in 2001. :-D
 
On 2006-08-16, Torak <[email protected]> wrote:

> They're more current than the "Valpen" - the old Volvo.. what, 313 or
> some such? And they're certainly still in use, with a rather
> nice-looking replacement due to be phased in over the next few years.

As far as I'm aware, the TGB11 is another name for the Volvo C303,
although I have to admit to not really going into the variety of names
that the C303 has run under, there's a fair few of them! Mind you
I've seen a pic of a pinzgauer labelled as a TGB11...

> They're definitely still in use - I spent most of my military service in
> one back in 2001. :-D

Heh, how's the hearing ;-)

AFAIK they're being phased out rapidly due to their age, I don't think
Volvo really came up with a replacement, a situation that sounds
eerily familiar...

If you know different I'd be interested in knowing what's coming, and
if it'll be as capable off-road as the C303s and Pinzgauer's of old,
now that the world is riddled with roads military vehicles seem to be
becoming less interesting.

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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-08-16, Torak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>They're more current than the "Valpen" - the old Volvo.. what, 313 or
>>some such? And they're certainly still in use, with a rather
>>nice-looking replacement due to be phased in over the next few years.
>
> As far as I'm aware, the TGB11 is another name for the Volvo C303,
> although I have to admit to not really going into the variety of names
> that the C303 has run under, there's a fair few of them! Mind you
> I've seen a pic of a pinzgauer labelled as a TGB11...

No, the Tgb 11 is a development of the 303. It looks vaguely similar,
but easy to tell apart if you see them side by side. There's something
like twenty years' difference, too.

>>They're definitely still in use - I spent most of my military service in
>>one back in 2001. :-D
>
> Heh, how's the hearing ;-)

Oh, not bad. It's the drumming that's ruined it.

> AFAIK they're being phased out rapidly due to their age, I don't think
> Volvo really came up with a replacement, a situation that sounds
> eerily familiar...
>
> If you know different I'd be interested in knowing what's coming, and
> if it'll be as capable off-road as the C303s and Pinzgauer's of old,
> now that the world is riddled with roads military vehicles seem to be
> becoming less interesting.

The new one's called "Galten", and is... well, I want one, anyway. Don't
know much about it, though, except that it's designed to have a .50 on
the roof.

Which is nice.
 
On or around Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:48:01 +0100, Torak <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>The new one's called "Galten", and is... well, I want one, anyway. Don't
>know much about it, though, except that it's designed to have a .50 on
>the roof.
>
>Which is nice.

now that would be handy in the traffic.
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On 2006-08-16, Torak <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, the Tgb 11 is a development of the 303. It looks vaguely similar,
> but easy to tell apart if you see them side by side. There's something
> like twenty years' difference, too.

OK, I'll have to have a peek at those sometime.

> The new one's called "Galten", and is... well, I want one, anyway. Don't
> know much about it, though, except that it's designed to have a .50 on
> the roof.

It's not a forward control any more though, so much less space inside.
That's about all I can see from the pictures and there's not that much
data on the important bits, i.e. suspension etc!

It also goes under the name of BAE Systems RG-32M from the look of
it. Data sheet here;

http://www.403.co.za/bae/RG32M.pdf

Looks like it has live axles with portal gearboxes, 2wd or 4wd, with
locking diffs, no 6x6 variant that I can see :-(

Looks like a nice beefy 4x4, although I suspect out of our budget
range ;-)

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On or around Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:20:44 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>It also goes under the name of BAE Systems RG-32M from the look of
>it. Data sheet here;
>
>http://www.403.co.za/bae/RG32M.pdf
>
>Looks like it has live axles with portal gearboxes, 2wd or 4wd, with
>locking diffs, no 6x6 variant that I can see :-(
>
>Looks like a nice beefy 4x4, although I suspect out of our budget
>range ;-)

so are new Pinzis, though.

they'll be on sale cheap after the squaddies have beaten 'em up for a few
years, then after a bit they'll be rare and collectable and fetch stupid
prices.

http://www.santana-motor.com/porta.htm

but not much detail about the military one. They do an open-topped patrol
vehicle along the lines of the LR ones which succeeded the pink panther.

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I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
 
On 2006-08-16, Torak <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, the Tgb 11 is a development of the 303. It looks vaguely
> similar, but easy to tell apart if you see them side by
> side. There's something like twenty years' difference, too.

BTW I've tried looking into this, everything I've found so far points
to the C303 being the civilian version and the TGB11 being the
military version of the same basic vehicle with minor differences,
I've not found anything on the TGB11 to suggest it's had any
significant development since 1982 (same as the C303). Do you have
any further info, or are you sure you've not got yer numbers wrong?
Note that the C303 isn't the "valpen" or "laplander", which are
earlier but similar-looking trucks.

Here's a summary, all the other info agrees with it so far;

http://www.volvoc303.co.uk/the_basics.htm

There is a TGB11-based variand that looks very different, stripped
down quite a bit, I used to have some pics of that somewhere, I
suspect it's a weapons-carrier variant.

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On 2006-08-17, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> so are new Pinzis, though.

Indeed, although the early variants of the gen 2 machines (about
equivalent in product history terms to the pre-defender 110/90's) can
be bought for about £25K inc vat, still out of my price range though.
Most of them would have more miles on them than the gen 1 machines ;-)

> http://www.santana-motor.com/porta.htm

That's just the front of their website, was there a specific machine
you had in mind? It's a pesky flash website so linking to the right
page might be hard!

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On or around Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:52:40 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-08-17, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> so are new Pinzis, though.
>
>Indeed, although the early variants of the gen 2 machines (about
>equivalent in product history terms to the pre-defender 110/90's) can
>be bought for about £25K inc vat, still out of my price range though.
>Most of them would have more miles on them than the gen 1 machines ;-)
>
>> http://www.santana-motor.com/porta.htm
>
>That's just the front of their website, was there a specific machine
>you had in mind? It's a pesky flash website so linking to the right
>page might be hard!

yeah, exactly... I went looking to see if they still did a forward control,
but they don't.

Still rate the PS10/anibal though - if I were in the market for a new 110
I'm pretty sure it'd be one of them not a solihull-built one. They really
ought to offer the 146hp version of the engine as an option, though. The
125 hp one is a good motor, but I bet half the buyers would pay extra for
the extra ponies, and I doubt the engine costs much more for Santana to
buy...

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"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
Alphonse Karr (1808 - 1890) Les Guêpes, Jan 1849
 
On or around Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:48:21 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Here's a summary, all the other info agrees with it so far;
>
>http://www.volvoc303.co.uk/the_basics.htm
>

There's some pictures there of a 6x6 one headlight-deep in a peat bog. they
don't seem to admit how they got it out - it does have a winch, so given a
solid enough recovery anchor point it could have winched itself out.
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On 2006-08-17, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> There's some pictures there of a 6x6 one headlight-deep in a peat bog. they
> don't seem to admit how they got it out - it does have a winch, so given a
> solid enough recovery anchor point it could have winched itself out.

The captions suggest that they sent a 4x4 C303 in to tow it out, but
that got stuck too!

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On or around Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:12:16 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-08-17, Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There's some pictures there of a 6x6 one headlight-deep in a peat bog. they
>> don't seem to admit how they got it out - it does have a winch, so given a
>> solid enough recovery anchor point it could have winched itself out.
>
>The captions suggest that they sent a 4x4 C303 in to tow it out, but
>that got stuck too!

eh? where'd you find captions?
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too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
Bank Holiday weekend.
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