non-revving 300TDI

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Tony

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• Jul 30, 2006

• #1

Just brought P-reg 300TDI Disco, 60000 miles. Run well for 1000 miles, then
just today its started not revving, it pulls okay for first 10-15 minutes,
then will just not rev abouve about 2000rpm. Pressing the throttle hard down
just seems to make it go slower. My first thoughts are I put in some "wonder
injector cleaning stuff" about 2 tanks ago. Could it be its shifted crap
from system and actually clogged up injectors. If fuel filter is clogged i
guess same would occur. Worried about turbo being shot, how can you test it?

Any other ideas, that spring to mind would be exhaustively checked and
reported back



Many thanks in anticipation


Tony

 

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JD

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• Jul 30, 2006

• #2

Tony wrote:

> Just brought P-reg 300TDI Disco, 60000 miles. Run well for 1000 miles,
> then just today its started not revving, it pulls okay for first 10-15
> minutes, then will just not rev abouve about 2000rpm. Pressing the
> throttle hard down just seems to make it go slower. My first thoughts are
> I put in some "wonder injector cleaning stuff" about 2 tanks ago. Could it
> be its shifted crap from system and actually clogged up injectors. If fuel
> filter is clogged i guess same would occur. Worried about turbo being
> shot, how can you test it?
>
> Any other ideas, that spring to mind would be exhaustively checked and
> reported back
>
>
>
> Many thanks in anticipation
>
>
> Tony

It does sound like a partial blockage somewhere in the fuel system. I don't
think the symptoms match turbo failure - that would be more just loss of
power, smoke, and usually oil consumption, often strange noised.
JD

 

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Badger

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• Jul 30, 2006

• #3

"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tony wrote:
>
> > Just brought P-reg 300TDI Disco, 60000 miles. Run well for 1000 miles,
> > then just today its started not revving, it pulls okay for first 10-15
> > minutes, then will just not rev abouve about 2000rpm. Pressing the
> > throttle hard down just seems to make it go slower. My first thoughts
are
> > I put in some "wonder injector cleaning stuff" about 2 tanks ago. Could
it
> > be its shifted crap from system and actually clogged up injectors. If
fuel
> > filter is clogged i guess same would occur. Worried about turbo being
> > shot, how can you test it?
> >
> > Any other ideas, that spring to mind would be exhaustively checked and
> > reported back
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks in anticipation
> >
> >
> > Tony
>
> It does sound like a partial blockage somewhere in the fuel system. I
don't
> think the symptoms match turbo failure - that would be more just loss of
> power, smoke, and usually oil consumption, often strange noised.
> JD

Engine will still rev with a knackered turbo, just no power. I had one in
like this recently, thought the pump and maybe one or more injectors were
shot, turned out it had petrol mixed in the diesel tank by mistake!!!!
Badger.

 

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Austin Shackles

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• Jul 30, 2006

• #4

On or around Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:08:13 GMT, "Tony" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Just brought P-reg 300TDI Disco, 60000 miles. Run well for 1000 miles, then
>just today its started not revving, it pulls okay for first 10-15 minutes,
>then will just not rev abouve about 2000rpm. Pressing the throttle hard down
>just seems to make it go slower. My first thoughts are I put in some "wonder
>injector cleaning stuff" about 2 tanks ago. Could it be its shifted crap
>from system and actually clogged up injectors. If fuel filter is clogged i
>guess same would occur. Worried about turbo being shot, how can you test it?
>
>Any other ideas, that spring to mind would be exhaustively checked and
>reported back

assuming you've not put petrol in it...

blocked diesel filter springs to mind, although that shouldn't happen after
10-15 minutes, really.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10

 

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Tony

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• Jul 30, 2006

• #5

Hmm did fill up from jerry can, definitely was diesel cos i filled up the
can same time as company van ahemmm, but there was a bit a crap in the can
as it poured out, inside coating of jerry can breaking down i think. Maybe
expensive ecomony measure......

Thanks


Tony

 

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Lee_D

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• Jul 31, 2006

• #6

Tony <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Hmm did fill up from jerry can, definitely was diesel cos i filled up
> the can same time as company van ahemmm, but there was a bit a crap
> in the can as it poured out, inside coating of jerry can breaking
> down i think. Maybe expensive ecomony measure......
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Tony

Fill it all the way up and see if that does owt.

Lee

 

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steve

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• Jul 31, 2006

• #7

Lee_D wrote:
> Fill it all the way up and see if that does owt.
>
> Lee
>
>
Change the fuel filter ?

Steve

 

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SimonJ

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• Jul 31, 2006

• #8

> Just brought P-reg 300TDI Disco, 60000 miles. Run well for 1000 miles,
> then just today its started not revving, it pulls okay for first 10-15
> minutes, then will just not rev abouve about 2000rpm. Pressing the
> throttle hard down just seems to make it go slower. My first thoughts are
> I put in some "wonder injector cleaning stuff" about 2 tanks ago. Could it
> be its shifted crap from system and actually clogged up injectors. If fuel
> filter is clogged i guess same would occur. Worried about turbo being
> shot, how can you test it?
>
> Any other ideas, that spring to mind would be exhaustively checked and
> reported back
>
Any sign of smoke?

 

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beamendsltd

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• Jul 31, 2006

• #9

In message <[email protected]>
"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tony <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> > Hmm did fill up from jerry can, definitely was diesel cos i filled up
> > the can same time as company van ahemmm, but there was a bit a crap
> > in the can as it poured out, inside coating of jerry can breaking
> > down i think. Maybe expensive ecomony measure......
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Tony
>
> Fill it all the way up and see if that does owt.
>
> Lee
>
>

Check that the turbo actuator is actually doing something,
i.e no split hoses etc. Also check that all the air intake
hoses have not gone soft and are collapsing intenally,
and check the air filter.

Richard
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www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
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Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive

 

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Oily

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• Jul 31, 2006

• #10

"steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lee_D wrote:
> > Fill it all the way up and see if that does owt.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> Change the fuel filter ?
>
> Steve

I'm surprised he hasn't done that first job, along with chassis mounted
water trap.

Martin.

 

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Lee_D

Guest

• Jul 31, 2006

• #11

Oily <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> "steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lee_D wrote:
>>> Fill it all the way up and see if that does owt.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>
>>>
>> Change the fuel filter ?
>>
>> Steve
>
> I'm surprised he hasn't done that first job, along with chassis
> mounted water trap.
>
> Martin.

Memories! Ah yes simply remove the fuel line...

I seem to recall fitting a new water trap in the engine bay of the Rangie,
much easier to access but does have the disadvantage of no longer being the
lowest point on the system... something to do with having to replace the
fuel line... due to having set it alight after the underseal caught from the
plasma cutter.... while replacing the sills, inner arches, door pillars and
repairing the footwells... Another simple job, it's amazong how fast you can
kill the power and reel out a garden hose when you really need to, though I
do recall getting told off as in my panic I switched the freezer off at the
same time. Happy days!

Lee D

 

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Graham Carter

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• Aug 4, 2006

• #12

Have you got half a tank left - my Disco here did just the same thing. Crud
fuel, a lot ut of Jerry Cans had blocked the fuel outlet from the tank.
Apparently, there are two openings in the feed from the tank - one on the
top of a cone filter in the tank, and the other set at the base of the same
filter. The bottom holes are small, and can get blocked. If a full tank of
fuel gets the power back, then take the tank out and give it a good clean.

Cheers!
Graham Carter
Harare
Zimbabwe

"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Tony wrote:
> >
> > > Just brought P-reg 300TDI Disco, 60000 miles. Run well for 1000 miles,
> > > then just today its started not revving, it pulls okay for first 10-15
> > > minutes, then will just not rev abouve about 2000rpm. Pressing the
> > > throttle hard down just seems to make it go slower. My first thoughts
> are
> > > I put in some "wonder injector cleaning stuff" about 2 tanks ago.
Could
> it
> > > be its shifted crap from system and actually clogged up injectors. If
> fuel
> > > filter is clogged i guess same would occur. Worried about turbo being
> > > shot, how can you test it?
> > >
> > > Any other ideas, that spring to mind would be exhaustively checked and
> > > reported back
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks in anticipation
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony
> >
> > It does sound like a partial blockage somewhere in the fuel system. I
> don't
> > think the symptoms match turbo failure - that would be more just loss of
> > power, smoke, and usually oil consumption, often strange noised.
> > JD
>
> Engine will still rev with a knackered turbo, just no power. I had one in
> like this recently, thought the pump and maybe one or more injectors were
> shot, turned out it had petrol mixed in the diesel tank by mistake!!!!
> Badger.
>
>