No indicators!

I've finally got the front back on the 90 after some bulkhead repairs and
I'm booked in for MOT a week on Thursday. Pressure's on!

It's all gone pretty smoothly, no major upsets - except my indicators are
dead. All other electrics seem to be OK including the hazard warning lights
but both left and right indicators are completely dead. There are separate
fuses for left and right flashers and these are OK. I've unscrewed the plate
that holds the fuses and behind it there seems to be 3 relays. One is the
hazard warning lights (I could feel that clicking), what would the other two
be?

Looking at the circuit diagram in my workshop manual, I think there is one
flasher unit to handle hazard warning left and right indicators. Is that
correct? If so I probably need to replace it?

What are the other two relay-looking things then?

Cheers in advance,
David
1988 90 2.5 petrol hardtop

On or around Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:26:02 +0100, "dacawa"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>I've finally got the front back on the 90 after some bulkhead repairs and
>I'm booked in for MOT a week on Thursday. Pressure's on!
>
>It's all gone pretty smoothly, no major upsets - except my indicators are
>dead. All other electrics seem to be OK including the hazard warning lights
>but both left and right indicators are completely dead. There are separate
>fuses for left and right flashers and these are OK. I've unscrewed the plate
>that holds the fuses and behind it there seems to be 3 relays. One is the
>hazard warning lights (I could feel that clicking), what would the other two
>be?
>
>Looking at the circuit diagram in my workshop manual, I think there is one
>flasher unit to handle hazard warning left and right indicators. Is that
>correct? If so I probably need to replace it?

make sure the hazard warning light switch is turning off properly. You may
need to replace it - I had this disease in the 110 once.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world
of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)

Austin Shackles wrote:

||| It's all gone pretty smoothly, no major upsets - except my
||| indicators are dead. All other electrics seem to be OK including
||
|| make sure the hazard warning light switch is turning off properly.
|| You may need to replace it - I had this disease in the 110 once.

I've heard that the hazard switch sometimes gets a bit iffy as it's rarely
used and can cause symptoms with the indicators - pulling the hazard switch
on and off a few times might cure it. Never done this, but maybe it's worth
a try?

--
Rich
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On or around Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:02:44 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>||| It's all gone pretty smoothly, no major upsets - except my
>||| indicators are dead. All other electrics seem to be OK including
>||
>|| make sure the hazard warning light switch is turning off properly.
>|| You may need to replace it - I had this disease in the 110 once.
>
>I've heard that the hazard switch sometimes gets a bit iffy as it's rarely
>used and can cause symptoms with the indicators - pulling the hazard switch
>on and off a few times might cure it. Never done this, but maybe it's worth
>a try?

same problem. The normal indicator path goes through the hazard switch in
the "hazards off" position - it's possible to have working hazards and
non-working indicators. By all means try exercising the switch though, they
cost money to replace...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There are three sorts of people in the world - those who can count,
and those who can't" (Anon)

Take the hazard warning switch out and check to see if it is parially
dismantling itself which they are prone to do - the clips holding the top
part to the bottom sometimes break or disengage.

A new HW switch from paddocks is about £9/£10 or so.

The genuine land rover part will cost a lot - about £30 - the pattern part
is just as good if not better.


--
Regards


David J. Button
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:02:44 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>>||| It's all gone pretty smoothly, no major upsets - except my
>>||| indicators are dead. All other electrics seem to be OK including
>>||
>>|| make sure the hazard warning light switch is turning off properly.
>>|| You may need to replace it - I had this disease in the 110 once.
>>
>>I've heard that the hazard switch sometimes gets a bit iffy as it's rarely
>>used and can cause symptoms with the indicators - pulling the hazard
>>switch
>>on and off a few times might cure it. Never done this, but maybe it's
>>worth
>>a try?
>
> same problem. The normal indicator path goes through the hazard switch in
> the "hazards off" position - it's possible to have working hazards and
> non-working indicators. By all means try exercising the switch though,
> they
> cost money to replace...
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "There are three sorts of people in the world - those who can count,
> and those who can't" (Anon)

On or around Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:27:51 +0100, "David J. Button"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Take the hazard warning switch out and check to see if it is parially
>dismantling itself which they are prone to do - the clips holding the top
>part to the bottom sometimes break or disengage.
>
>A new HW switch from paddocks is about £9/£10 or so.
>
>The genuine land rover part will cost a lot - about £30 - the pattern part
>is just as good if not better.

LR part depends on the age of the vehicle - there are about 3 types, each
more expensive than the last. the early 90/110 one is not too expensive.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'

Hands! do you remember the highway code I still have a version from the 60's


I have had to have recours to that before now, it is that abominable
apology for a fusebox to blame. Woulda though 90's had sorted it out, but
there you see not everything is progress after all.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"dacawa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've finally got the front back on the 90 after some bulkhead repairs and
> I'm booked in for MOT a week on Thursday. Pressure's on!
>
> It's all gone pretty smoothly, no major upsets - except my indicators are
> dead. All other electrics seem to be OK including the hazard warning
lights
> but both left and right indicators are completely dead. There are separate
> fuses for left and right flashers and these are OK. I've unscrewed the
plate
> that holds the fuses and behind it there seems to be 3 relays. One is the
> hazard warning lights (I could feel that clicking), what would the other
two
> be?
>
> Looking at the circuit diagram in my workshop manual, I think there is one
> flasher unit to handle hazard warning left and right indicators. Is that
> correct? If so I probably need to replace it?
>
> What are the other two relay-looking things then?
>
> Cheers in advance,
> David
> 1988 90 2.5 petrol hardtop
>
>

Larry wrote:
> Hands! do you remember the highway code I still have a version from the 60's
>
>
> I have had to have recours to that before now, it is that abominable
> apology for a fusebox to blame. Woulda though 90's had sorted it out, but
> there you see not everything is progress after all.
>
>
My indicators went on the old IIa 109 I had, so there I was approaching
a T junction, out goes the arm for a balletic "up-and-down" wave to show
I'm turning left. The idiot behind me though I was waving him past (I
was slowing down about ten yards from the turn). He zoomed past, and
nearly went over the junction into the wall opposite. Oh, how we laughed!

Stuart