New member and safety in a 90

Don't ask.
If you have a knock on the front or back you'll be ok.

Tarquin said:

Any words of comfort or harsh reality are welcome

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the harsh reality is that they aren't at all safe when compared to a modern car

so now you have an excuse to fit a roll cage

Sean said:

so now you have an excuse to fit a roll cage

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That's the trump card I keep useing on the wife

Does it matter if it is an internal or external cage? Im more than happy to go down this route if it would make the difference so any suggestions of what I should get and from where is appreciated

Tarquin said:

Does it matter if it is an internal or external cage? Im more than happy to go down this route if it would make the difference so any suggestions of what I should get and from where is appreciated

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internal ones are quite intrusive - take a fair bit of space

google ''safety devices rollcage'' or ask pressbrake (a member on here) to build you a very nice one

Hi and welcome to LZ

Get some rock sliders they will aid with side impact

To be honest I'm no longer up to date with the crash test data of a defender, try a google search

Thanks gents! It looks like the spec has increased again

PM Pressbrake for a cage.

here some of is work, he has had mega reviews on here!

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f7/challenge-truck-re-build-191016.html

Thanks sean and bear.
As sean said defenders arent the safest of things a big bmw or audi would destroy it in a impact.
As mentioned above rock sliders would help greatly, other than that how far do want to go?
A simple roll bar would stop the thing folding up in a roll over and strengthen the mid section from side impact intrusion.

Hi Pressbrake, I want simple then by the sounds of it. Would the side steps on an XS offer the same side protection as rock sliders?

Tarquin said:

Would the side steps on an XS offer the same side protection as rock sliders?

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Side steps are for stepping on and will keep the shopping trolleys away in Tescos and rock sliders will take a fair impact as they are designed to protect the body when going over rocky terrain and tree trunks etc. Even rock sliders will cave in in an impact as they are mounted to the outriggers which will crush but this will give a lot more protection than nothing at all.
In slower more common impacts a Defender would stand you in better stead than your average small car bearing in mind that the crash test is for the car against a solid object and if you were to crash a Nissan Micra into a Defender the Defender would be taking up the role of solid object!
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Would you (or anyone else on here) object to having their young children in a 90 without rock sliders and roll cage for road trips (not off roading)?

Tarquin said:

Hi Pressbrake, I want simple then by the sounds of it. Would the side steps on an XS offer the same side protection as rock sliders?

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the side steps bolt to the floor brace which is weak

All you need is heavy duty winch bumper rock sliders an heavy rear tow step


An remember don't dodge it RAM IT

Buy an armour plated 90 from the MoD

I regularly take my 2 year old out in my 110. I Dont worry about it at all. You could buy the safest car in the world and still get badly injured in a crash

Can rock sliders fit as well as dealer fitted XS side steps?

Rock sliders usually have a step on them anyway

Dr_evil said:

Rock sliders usually have a step on them anyway

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do they i thought that was rock sliders with nerff bars