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Nanocom question (pre-purchase)

Discussion in 'Range Rover' started by P38 Monkey, Jan 14, 2022.

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  1. JUKE179r

    JUKE179r Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Read to your hearts delight about the Nanocom screens for the P38 BECM:
    https://www.nanocom-diagnostics.com/downloads/preview/p38-becm

    note…
    • EKA number: This is the Emergency Key Access (EKA) Number for this vehicle. Only available on unlocked BECM's (see BECM STATUS). Even if the EKA function is disabled (see PASSIVE EKA) and therefore not used, each BECM still has a number programmed into it. The number has to be 4 characters long, each character can be a number between 1 and 6, and the four numbers cannot be all the same.
     
  2. P38 Monkey

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    I am sure you are correct, but strange that the interactive demo shows a locked BECM and then a subsequent screen displays the actual EKA number, particularly as the Nanocom Evolution apparently cannot unlock / lock the BECM. I suppose if EKA is disabled then the number is immaterial, but even so...
     
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    This is the learning curve i previously mentioned when buying one. Bottom line is if you do choose to get one is hard to see how it will not pay for itself with long term ownership. Everything you will need to know the good people here can and will show you, but the learning never stops, particularly when the forgetting kicks in :oops:
    It just gets more in depth.

    Asking a Nanocom for your EKA is like asking a cash machine what your pin is. It can’t tell you mate.
    As far as I know LR should have the EKA as it was part of the build which was in Solihull no matter which country bought it after. I reckon whoever you spoke to are either wrong or BS you. Or both.
     
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    P38 Monkey Well-Known Member

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    That is a very relevant comment ref owning a Nanocom - I am about to order one, and thanks for the vote of confidence in it.
    Ref the ATM, that is not really a relevant comparison. The ATM machine does not store your PIN, it merely sends it to your bank's database. The BeCM does have the EKA number stored in it, but sounds like it is protected unless the BeCM is unlocked, which the Nanocom cannot do. I hope I will be able to disable EKA (and "Immobilizer) even if I don't know what the actual EKA code is.
    Ref Land Rover UK - on the assumption that all BeCMs have an EKA number programmed into them as the BeCM is a single standard unit, yes it does seem odd that they can't find one against a perfectly valid (International, not Japan-specific) VIN number. LR Japan do not publish an email address so I have asked LR International for their contact details.
    I really appreciate your comments and no doubt I shall find out more when my Nanocom arrives.
     
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    tomcat59alan Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the link, just found out my MSV2 can unlock a locked BECM according to it.Had my Nanocom for years and never been required to use it. Came without any user instructions,I'm sure they're online but that mysterious territory to me. Never seem to have the time to have a play, just remember Wammers telling me to write everything down before you change anything.Never got to make the trip to have one to one instruction from him.Seeing it done is remembered more than reading these days.:oops::D
     
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    Thanks mate,do you have a download for the diesel?
     
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    You need the direct access module 035 and cable which has to be soldered to pins in the BECM for the MSV2 to unlock the BECM.
     
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    Land Rover may not like grey imports and so will be uncooperative. I had that problem with Mitsubishi.
     
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    I agonised over my Nanocom purchase (its a fair chunk of change) but it has paid for itself a few times already with insights into what's wrong and whether the corrective actions have been effective.
    I think CallRover (user RickThePick on here) can probably unlock a BECM as can the folks at Howe Engineering in Herts (who apparently supplied my vehicles replacement BECM). But there should be no need to have it unlocked.
     
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    Yes, Rick can unlock the BECM, potentially so could I but have never found the need.
     
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    It will be good to have a Nanocom so I can at least discuss matters with the BECM rather than simply obey its instructions.
     
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    I am sure you are correct - the (very helpful) guy at our local Disti (Marshalls of Cambridge) told me rather sheepishly that they could not provide an EKA number for that VIN.
     
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    Searches on t'interweb suggest (old threads on here are google-referenced) that some markets do not use an EKA code and do not have one set in the BECM.
    Other threads say there are 2 "universal codes" used for these non-personalised EKA markets and these are 1515 and 1234.
    I myself (before I got my Nanocom) got my car out of "Engine Disabled" using the battery off then back on (after 10 minutes) while the key was in position 2 (although everyone swears blind that this is just a myth, all I can tell you is that it worked for me). :)
    Keys that drop out of synch is another favourite foible of the P38 and mine has done it several times.
    Putting the key that does not work for remote lock/unlock in the ignition never re-synchs it on my car, although it is a Model Year 2000 and should have the coil on the ignition key switch.
    I have found that getting BOTH keys working after one or the other drops out of favour with the car (maybe a "recent rolling code" has gone out of range) usually entails clearing RF memory with my Nanocom and then putting the non-working key in the drivers door and holding the LOCK button while turning the blade to " LOCK" and back to vertical and then pressing the "UNLOCK" button while turning the keyblade to unlock seems to do the trick and I am then back with 2 working keys. My keys (miraculously) are Key 1 & Key 2 (the originals that came with the car).
     
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    P38 Monkey Well-Known Member

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    I love these "get out of jail" tips - 1990's computing style. This is defo one to save for possible future use - thank you!!
     
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    I did not compare an atm to becm ;) but I get what you mean
     
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    Yes I read that.ta
     
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    Wonder if japan used a generic code like the merkins? Would explain reluctance to tell
     
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    Sure you can go directly to JLR, a member on here did with success.;)
     
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    In my experience with the Pajero, a Jap grey import is missing 2 digits from the VIN that denote EU spec.
     
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