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Izak_M · May 8, 2006

Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in? Have a 110 HC
pick-up, last year's model...so far so good; basically use it on the farm
for whatever. My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult to
keep foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride and is
probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if a hand
throttle can be fitted? The local agents reckons it cannot since there is no
physical linkage from the pedal. (the fuel injection is electronically
controlled). Anybody else has this problem?
(I had an Isuzu before which had a hand-throttle and that worked
wonderfully)

Izak Marais

JD · May 8, 2006

Izak_M wrote:

> Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in? Have a 110
> HC pick-up, last year's model...so far so good; basically use it on the
> farm
> for whatever. My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult
> to keep foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride
> and is
> probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if a hand
> throttle can be fitted? The local agents reckons it cannot since there is
> no physical linkage from the pedal. (the fuel injection is electronically
> controlled). Anybody else has this problem?
> (I had an Isuzu before which had a hand-throttle and that worked
> wonderfully)
>
> Izak Marais

Some hand throttles on Jap diesels are fitted working on the pedal itself,
so I don't see why it could not be done with a 110, although it may take a
bit of ingenuity and fabrication.
JD

Vince · May 8, 2006

I assume it is a TD5? If my memory serves me right it is an electronic
throttle. I think it is the case that in low ratio it automatically make the
throttle travel longer for offroad work. IF that is the case you may be
better off using say 5th low range instead of 2nd high range.

Also the HC pickup has very stiff rear springs - either carry a heavy load
or else lower the tyre pressures - will make a big difference.

Do NOT use a hand throttle for driving unless you want to kill yourself!!!

"Izak_M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in? Have a 110
HC
> pick-up, last year's model...so far so good; basically use it on the farm
> for whatever. My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult
to
> keep foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride and
is
> probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if a hand
> throttle can be fitted? The local agents reckons it cannot since there is
no
> physical linkage from the pedal. (the fuel injection is electronically
> controlled). Anybody else has this problem?
> (I had an Isuzu before which had a hand-throttle and that worked
> wonderfully)
>
> Izak Marais
>
>

bellautos · May 8, 2006

Remember if you do fit and mods the dealers MAY void your warranty.

Ian Rawlings · May 8, 2006

On 2006-05-08, Izak_M <[email protected]> wrote:

> Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in?

Wotcher! What's the password.

> My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult to keep
> foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride and
> is probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if
> a hand throttle can be fitted?

Sure it's not just you not having been used to it yet? I've been
driving off-road on lanes and off-road sites for many years and not
had this problem at all. Might be worth getting the truck checked out
to make sure it's OK, e.g. throttle potentiometer dirty etc.

As for hand throttles, I'd be inclined to avoid using it while moving
as it tends to make you take everything at a set speed, which isn't a
good idea if the terrain is really rough. I've got a non-LR vehicle
now that has a hand throttle but the only time I've ever used it was
when sitting on a very steep incline, nose up, holding it on brakes
then using the hand throttle to pull away.

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Vince · May 8, 2006

I remember reading somewhere there was a prob with TD5 throttles so maybe
it's not just him.

"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2006-05-08, Izak_M <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in?
>
> Wotcher! What's the password.
>
> > My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult to keep
> > foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride and
> > is probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if
> > a hand throttle can be fitted?
>
> Sure it's not just you not having been used to it yet? I've been
> driving off-road on lanes and off-road sites for many years and not
> had this problem at all. Might be worth getting the truck checked out
> to make sure it's OK, e.g. throttle potentiometer dirty etc.
>
> As for hand throttles, I'd be inclined to avoid using it while moving
> as it tends to make you take everything at a set speed, which isn't a
> good idea if the terrain is really rough. I've got a non-LR vehicle
> now that has a hand throttle but the only time I've ever used it was
> when sitting on a very steep incline, nose up, holding it on brakes
> then using the hand throttle to pull away.
>
> --
> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Alex · May 8, 2006

On Mon, 8 May 2006 21:35:36 +0200, "Izak_M" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in? Have a 110 HC
>pick-up, last year's model...so far so good; basically use it on the farm
>for whatever. My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult to
>keep foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride and is
>probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if a hand
>throttle can be fitted? The local agents reckons it cannot since there is no
>physical linkage from the pedal. (the fuel injection is electronically
>controlled). Anybody else has this problem?

Hand throttles Off-road are not a very good idea, as the time taken to
release the throttle is far longer than if you simply lift your foot
off, you can get into trouble with a hand throttle.

However, a simple trick i was taught with a LR is simply to put your
foor on the accellerator, but to press your foot sideways at the same
time against the door pillar. Then your foot doesn't bounce up and
down as you go over bumps.

Alex

Dave R · May 9, 2006

or you can do what my father swore by when he had his first series 2 in
the 60's, he found the power of the 2litre too much after his ol' 1600
series one and apparently fitted a masively strong spring to the
throttle to kerb his right foot........................Bizarre

beamendsltd · May 9, 2006

In message <[email protected]>
JD <[email protected]> wrote:

> Izak_M wrote:
>
> > Evening all, Been reading this for a while; mind if I join in? Have a 110
> > HC pick-up, last year's model...so far so good; basically use it on the
> > farm
> > for whatever. My problem: driving over rough terrain I find it difficult
> > to keep foot on the accelerator very steady which makes for a jerky ride
> > and is
> > probably not good for engine & transmission. Does anyone know if a hand
> > throttle can be fitted? The local agents reckons it cannot since there is
> > no physical linkage from the pedal. (the fuel injection is electronically
> > controlled). Anybody else has this problem?
> > (I had an Isuzu before which had a hand-throttle and that worked
> > wonderfully)
> >
> > Izak Marais
>
> Some hand throttles on Jap diesels are fitted working on the pedal itself,
> so I don't see why it could not be done with a 110, although it may take a
> bit of ingenuity and fabrication.
> JD

There's no reason why a second pair of throttle pots couldn't be
mounted on the dash. It would probably be necessary to have a
mutli-pole switch, or some resitors to match the impedance though.
Such an arrangement would be of use to those who go wading as well
as a back-up system.

Richard
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Lee_D · May 9, 2006

Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> or you can do what my father swore by when he had his first series 2
> in the 60's, he found the power of the 2litre too much after his ol'
> 1600 series one and apparently fitted a masively strong spring to the
> throttle to kerb his right foot........................Bizarre

Fitted two extra springs on Percy when the 4.2 lump was in after launching
myself at a junction one day.

Lee

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Neil Brownlee · May 9, 2006

I thought the TD5 remapped when in low box? To avoid just the situation you
are talking about. I know my L322 does.....

--
Neil

Vince · May 9, 2006

That's what I said but nobody listened!!!

"Neil Brownlee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I thought the TD5 remapped when in low box? To avoid just the situation
you
> are talking about. I know my L322 does.....
>
> --
> Neil
>
>

Tom Woods · May 9, 2006

Before i got the diesel engine in my 2A, my mate had it in his.

You get a lot of throttle movement on my diesel and it can be delicate
at points - the petrol is like on/off but mine uses the full pedal
travel to do its stuff.

My mate always had a bit of kitchen worktop on the floor under the
heel of his foot to change the angle you foot was at on the pedal.
Making it more towards the horizontal makes it easier to control in
some ways.

Alex · May 9, 2006

>> I thought the TD5 remapped when in low box? To avoid just the situation
>you
>> are talking about. I know my L322 does.....
>>
>That's what I said but nobody listened!!!
>

Pardon? Did somebody say something?

Izak_M · May 9, 2006

This sounds possible; any idea what the value of those pots (you mention a
pair?)are? I suppose they could be bought as spares over the counter?

Izak_M · May 9, 2006

This I will try, thanks; funny the users manual doesn't mention
it..........I'll read it again!

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