LR rally / event nr London soon?

Hi All,

My (nearly 14 yr old) daughter loves 'Landy's (for some reason <g>)
and we've been to the Landrover Show at Peterborough for her to have a
good look around.

With her birthday coming up on the 21st I was wondering if there were
any events / rallys on within a reasonable distance of Nth London we
could go to (to watch, or possibly buy a 'ride' in) please?

Her 'ideal' 'Landy' seems to be the green (or even mild army cammo)
SWB versions with the TD5 seeming to be favourite? No chrome or flash
parts and a few 'dings' and some mud all the better ;-)

I think she is hoping we could buy one one day (eventually for her to
drive it seems) and faced with having to take her and 4 of her mates
to the cinema the other day in the Rover 218SD (I only took 3 and
another Dad took the rest) made me think that even a swb Landy may
(could?) have 6 or even 7 seats?

All the best and thanks for your time in any case ...

T i m

p.s. If there isn't a suitable LR 'do' soon, what about a generic 4X4
gig that's likely to have a good LR turnout please?

p.p.s. I met someone recently that mentioned his Dad may have a Series
1 (he wasn't sure) that's recently had a new galv chassis and might be
up for grabs. I know the bulkhead is another weakness on LR's (from
the LR Show, mags and the net) but it seems everything is 'fixable'
given the time and interest. (We built a Rickman Ranger kit car 17
years ago (still running) and I'm pretty good with mechanics /
electrics / plumbing etc)

In article <[email protected]>, T i m wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My (nearly 14 yr old) daughter loves 'Landy's (for some reason <g>)
> and we've been to the Landrover Show at Peterborough for her to have a
> good look around.
>

How did you do that then, its not on 'til this weekend?

> With her birthday coming up on the 21st I was wondering if there were
> any events / rallys on within a reasonable distance of Nth London we
> could go to (to watch, or possibly buy a 'ride' in) please?
>


I'd head up to Peterborough again this year (you did mean LRO last year
didn't you?).



--
simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.

T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

>Her 'ideal' 'Landy' seems to be the green (or even mild army cammo)
>SWB versions with the TD5 seeming to be favourite? No chrome or flash
>parts and a few 'dings' and some mud all the better ;-)

Hey, great, seems that my wife is not the only woman with similar
understanding of the perfect car

After years of staring at all the Defenders coming along the roads a
few weeks ago her old, rusty Opel (Vauxhall) Kadett 1.6i broke down,
with 377310 km on the engine, and now she owns a Defender 90, built
1990, 2.5td.

By the way, is there an owners manual available in .pdf for this
Landy? We have all kinds of service manuals (showing every bolt of the
engine, but no basics at all), but the user manual you get from the
dealer when you buy a new car has gone



regards - Ralph

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On 6 Sep 2004 11:57:43 GMT, Simon Barr <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, T i m wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My (nearly 14 yr old) daughter loves 'Landy's (for some reason <g>)
>> and we've been to the Landrover Show at Peterborough for her to have a
>> good look around.
>>
>
>How did you do that then, its not on 'til this weekend?

A rift in the time / space continuum maybe? ;-)
>
>> With her birthday coming up on the 21st I was wondering if there were
>> any events / rallys on within a reasonable distance of Nth London we
>> could go to (to watch, or possibly buy a 'ride' in) please?
>>

>I'd head up to Peterborough again this year (you did mean LRO last year
>didn't you?).

I think so <g>. Big place, full of Landrovers and LR accessories?
Watched some folk driving a Ranger Rover over logs with a flooded
roofrack?

We left it a bit late to go round to the off road course .. (it was
closed) ;-( Do you think there be any folk willing to take a couple
of keen passengers round the cct (especially if one of them is wearing
her Land Rover hat?).

We did pay to be driven (and a quick go) rounf the off road track at
Red Lodge a few years ago (when went up there for her to run her TY80
trials bike (now for sale). We were in a "Four Track" (I won't mention
the make on here ...) and I was very surprised what sort of muddy
incline it would drive straight up?

My daughter was in the back and wasn't impressed when our 'driver'
mentioned some bloke and got it a bit 'pear shaped' and stuck the
thing on it's nose. He remembers the passenger going over his shoulder
and onto the windscreen (no one was hurt re-telling this story) ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 15:11:23 +0200, "Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Her 'ideal' 'Landy' seems to be the green (or even mild army cammo)
>>SWB versions with the TD5 seeming to be favourite? No chrome or flash
>>parts and a few 'dings' and some mud all the better ;-)
>
>Hey, great, seems that my wife is not the only woman with similar
>understanding of the perfect car

And we couldn't argue with 'them' even if they were wrong eh! ;-)
>
>After years of staring at all the Defenders coming along the roads a
>few weeks ago her old, rusty Opel (Vauxhall) Kadett 1.6i broke down,
>with 377310 km on the engine, and now she owns a Defender 90, built
>1990, 2.5td.

Nice. Trying to get a feel for these beasts I think the 'ultimate'
Landy (for an all round solution .. family car and some mild offroad
fun) might be a 110, 2.5 Tdi? The 'important' points seem to be:

Coil springs (for comfort)
2.5l deisel (for economy)
PAS (if you aren't Popeye)
90 (for fun)
or
110 (for the family).

But I assume that all comes at a price?

I like the idea of plenty of parts / skills available and the fact
that it seems to be sorta big 'kit' (bits unbolt from one model
straight onto another etc). Why is it though the Landy only seems to
get abroad if it's part of some British expedition? All the locals
seem to be driving Land Cruisers (or hanging out the back of a Toyota
pickup waving AK47's?)
>
>By the way, is there an owners manual available in .pdf for this
>Landy? We have all kinds of service manuals (showing every bolt of the
>engine, but no basics at all), but the user manual you get from the
>dealer when you buy a new car has gone

Where does one get the .pdf format service manuals please Ralph .. can
they be downloaded free from somewhere?

All the best to you and your Lady with yer new toy ..;-)

T i m

Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS wrote:
>
> By the way, is there an owners manual available in .pdf for this
> Landy? We have all kinds of service manuals (showing every bolt of the
> engine, but no basics at all), but the user manual you get from the
> dealer when you buy a new car has gone
>

Land Rover Enthusiast magazine has a bookshop where you can get most of the
owners' manuals etc. Not as cheap as .pdf, admittedly.

--

Rich

Series 2a
RR 4.6
V8 trialler
dog, wife, kids, whatever

In article <[email protected]>, T i m wrote:
>
> I think so <g>. Big place, full of Landrovers and LR accessories?
> Watched some folk driving a Ranger Rover over logs with a flooded
> roofrack?
>

That sounds like the one.

> We left it a bit late to go round to the off road course .. (it was
> closed) ;-( Do you think there be any folk willing to take a couple
> of keen passengers round the cct (especially if one of them is wearing
> her Land Rover hat?).
>

I don't doubt that you could find someone to take you round, quite how
you'd find them I don't know though. I'm not planning on driving the
course otherwise I'd offer to take you round myself.

--
simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.

T i m <[email protected]> wrote:

>Coil springs (for comfort)
>2.5l deisel (for economy)
>PAS (if you aren't Popeye)
>90 (for fun)

That is it Funny thing, driving through a "road under construction"
with the allowed maximum of 30 km/h! With a normal car everything more
than 15 could be a big, big problem for the car.

>>By the way, is there an owners manual available in .pdf for this
>>Landy? We have all kinds of service manuals (showing every bolt of the
>>engine, but no basics at all), but the user manual you get from the
>>dealer when you buy a new car has gone
>
>Where does one get the .pdf format service manuals please Ralph .. can
>they be downloaded free from somewhere?

When using a p2p-software you can find it with the words defender
werkstatthandbuch - many german stuff, but also english docoments. I
do not want to put it onto my server, I have no clue if the contents
are "public domain"

>All the best to you and your Lady with yer new toy ..;-)

Thank you very much! For sure we will have fun with this great car!

>T i m




regards - Ralph

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On 7 Sep 2004 08:00:49 GMT, Simon Barr <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, T i m wrote:
>>
>> I think so <g>. Big place, full of Landrovers and LR accessories?
>> Watched some folk driving a Ranger Rover over logs with a flooded
>> roofrack?
>>
>
>That sounds like the one.
>
>> We left it a bit late to go round to the off road course .. (it was
>> closed) ;-( Do you think there be any folk willing to take a couple
>> of keen passengers round the cct (especially if one of them is wearing
>> her Land Rover hat?).
>>
>
>I don't doubt that you could find someone to take you round, quite how
>you'd find them I don't know though. I'm not planning on driving the
>course otherwise I'd offer to take you round myself.

Thanks for the thought Simon ;-) (sri, just got back to this group)

I have had a kind offer for a ride around the Abingdon show at the end
of the month .. hope we can get there etc ..

Are there places that you could hire a Landy (just for on-road use
even?). How would you get insurance etc ...

All the best ..

T i m

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:36:38 +0200, "Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Coil springs (for comfort)
>>2.5l deisel (for economy)
>>PAS (if you aren't Popeye)
>>90 (for fun)
>
>That is it Funny thing, driving through a "road under construction"
>with the allowed maximum of 30 km/h! With a normal car everything more
>than 15 could be a big, big problem for the car.

On the flip side driving at 100 kph on the flat is more tiring in most
Landy's than a std road car? Our kit car (looks like a small Jeep) is
a sort of a cheap compromise. It is basically a road car (so fairly
comfortable / fast / economical <compared with most Landys>) with
bigger (diameter) M&S tyres and lowish gearing for mild off road use.
We have been up a mud track and past a Landy on it's side in the ditch
... ;-(
>
>>>By the way, is there an owners manual available in .pdf for this
>>>Landy? We have all kinds of service manuals (showing every bolt of the
>>>engine, but no basics at all), but the user manual you get from the
>>>dealer when you buy a new car has gone
>>
>>Where does one get the .pdf format service manuals please Ralph .. can
>>they be downloaded free from somewhere?
>
>When using a p2p-software you can find it with the words defender
>werkstatthandbuch - many german stuff, but also english docoments. I
>do not want to put it onto my server, I have no clue if the contents
>are "public domain"

Fair enough Ralph.
>
>>All the best to you and your Lady with yer new toy ..;-)
>
>Thank you very much! For sure we will have fun with this great car!

My pleasure ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

In news:[email protected],
T i m <[email protected]> blithered:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:36:38 +0200, "Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Coil springs (for comfort)
>>> 2.5l deisel (for economy)
>>> PAS (if you aren't Popeye)
>>> 90 (for fun)
>>
>> That is it Funny thing, driving through a "road under
>> construction" with the allowed maximum of 30 km/h! With a normal car
>> everything more than 15 could be a big, big problem for the car.
>
> On the flip side driving at 100 kph on the flat is more tiring in most
> Landy's than a std road car? Our kit car (looks like a small Jeep) is
> a sort of a cheap compromise. It is basically a road car (so fairly
> comfortable / fast / economical <compared with most Landys>) with
> bigger (diameter) M&S tyres and lowish gearing for mild off road use.
> We have been up a mud track and past a Landy on it's side in the ditch

Resting?

> .. ;-(
>>
>>>> By the way, is there an owners manual available in .pdf for this
>>>> Landy? We have all kinds of service manuals (showing every bolt of
>>>> the engine, but no basics at all), but the user manual you get
>>>> from the dealer when you buy a new car has gone
>>>
>>> Where does one get the .pdf format service manuals please Ralph ..
>>> can they be downloaded free from somewhere?
>>
>> When using a p2p-software you can find it with the words defender
>> werkstatthandbuch - many german stuff, but also english docoments. I
>> do not want to put it onto my server, I have no clue if the contents
>> are "public domain"
>
> Fair enough Ralph.
>>
>>> All the best to you and your Lady with yer new toy ..;-)
>>
>> Thank you very much! For sure we will have fun with this great car!
>
> My pleasure ;-)
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m



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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:16:37 +0100, "GbH"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In news:[email protected],
>T i m <[email protected]> blithered:
>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:36:38 +0200, "Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>

>> On the flip side driving at 100 kph on the flat is more tiring in most
>> Landy's than a std road car? Our kit car (looks like a small Jeep) is
>> a sort of a cheap compromise. It is basically a road car (so fairly
>> comfortable / fast / economical <compared with most Landys>) with
>> bigger (diameter) M&S tyres and lowish gearing for mild off road use.
>> We have been up a mud track and past a Landy on it's side in the ditch
>
>Resting?

LOL!

It could have been?

I was told though the clutch had burnt out trying to get a trailer up
the track?

It was quite cool to drive right up to the event leaving all the std
'cars' in the car park, including a good few 4X4's that didn't want to
get their wheels muddy ;-)

I was out in the Rickman Ranger in the snow a few years ago and
couldn't understand why all the other cars were going soooo slowly ..
till I got in the Sierra that is! Woah, even trying to get away from
the kerb was difficult. Only goes to show how much difference the
right tyres (even Coleway M&S) make!

All the best ..

T i m

'Would be' Landy driver .. ;-)