Classic Lower steering shaft 592779

I am trying to source a used lower steering shaft (592779) as used on the early RRC (1969 onwards PAS models). This was a straight shaft of 355mm long with a spline each end and NO rubber coupling - just a UJ each end. Any ideas

Thanks
Tallbloke

Tallbloke2 said:

I am trying to source a used lower steering shaft (592779) as used on the early RRC (1969 onwards PAS models). This was a straight shaft of 355mm long with a spline each end and NO rubber coupling - just a UJ each end. Any ideas

Thanks
Tallbloke

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Ebay or a landy breakers near you?

Nothing has appeared on eBay and so far nothing from breakers. Since this shaft was only fitted to the very early vehicles (most of which will have either been scrapped or fully restored) it is proving difficult.

Tallbloke2 said:

Nothing has appeared on eBay and so far nothing from breakers. Since this shaft was only fitted to the very early vehicles (most of which will have either been scrapped or fully restored) it is proving difficult.

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Ooer, is the next version adaptable at all?

Sadly the later one with the rubber coupling is not suitable or adaptable. The problem is that it is not generally a part that wears out so there has not been any demand for it from stripped vehicles. The wearing parts are the UJ's which are readily available and easily changed. Worn or rusty splines might be a reason to change the shaft but otherwise it is a part that one wouldn't need to replace (unlike almost all the other bits on LR vehicles!).

Tallbloke2 said:

Sadly the later one with the rubber coupling is not suitable or adaptable. The problem is that it is not generally a part that wears out so there has not been any demand for it from stripped vehicles. The wearing parts are the UJ's which are readily available and easily changed. Worn or rusty splines might be a reason to change the shaft but otherwise it is a part that one wouldn't need to replace (unlike almost all the other bits on LR vehicles!).

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I see, jeez. Could a machine shop offer any help. It may be expensive but if you have no choice..

Yes having one made is the last resort or possibly cutting and shutting two of the later ones that are more readily available. A used one that is the correct part is obviously cheaper and easier but as you say machining or modifying the later one is a final option. I always think that with this type of part there will always be someone who has one in a pile of bits and be glad to make a bit of money on something that is otherwise scrap steel. Worth a try anyway. Thanks for your interes Mark.

Tallbloke2 said:

Yes having one made is the last resort or possibly cutting and shutting two of the later ones that are more readily available. A used one that is the correct part is obviously cheaper and easier but as you say machining or modifying the later one is a final option. I always think that with this type of part there will always be someone who has one in a pile of bits and be glad to make a bit of money on something that is otherwise scrap steel. Worth a try anyway. Thanks for your interes Mark.

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Your welcome, it's early days yet. Maybe some of our fellow members can give some help later on.

Could the UJs be drilled along with the shaft so they are secured with a bolt through the both parts? Or even spot welded so they can be removed at a later date for replacement..?

Is this not the part then?
592779 - Steering Shaft Between Ujs Pas up to Vin 101677 (johncraddockltd.co.uk)

J

^^ I'd spotted that ad too. Think the price might be the issue.

Ratae said:

^^ I'd spotted that ad too. Think the price might be the issue.

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Sometimes even us tight old buggers have to open the wallet.
Otherwise it becomes a drive ornament .

I don’t think it’s actually a bad price tbh.

J

marjon said:

Sometimes even us tight old buggers have to open the wallet.
Otherwise it becomes a drive ornament .

I don’t think it’s actually a bad price tbh.

J

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Ey lad but it does dépend on circumstances sometimes

Yes many thanks I'm well aware of this one at Craddocks. I actually did think £144 for a 355 mm shaft (no UJ's included) was a bit strong! The context is that the even more rare equivalent shaft for the manual steering early RRC (575728) at Peter Blanchard's is £21.95 (and they actually do have stock). Sadly however it is only 305mm long and therefore not suitable for my purpose. A used one will do just as well as the splines are unlikely to have been 'worked'. Or maybe two later ones (rubber coupling type) - readily available and cheap - 'cut and shut' is the practical solution?

I would only say this.
Who will be cutting and shutting it? cost?
2 ready available shafts, cost?

I am always a bit twitchy when peeps start messing with critical systems of a car steering being 1.

I am by no means saying it cant be done by somebody who is competent, and at less than the cost of a new 1. But it needs to be brought up

J

Couldn’t agree more.
1. I have a number of used later type (rubber coupling) in stock.
2. I regularly uses an engineering shop to make parts for me who will easily be able to achieve OEM quality.

Cost - we’ll see but I just feel that £144 + carriage is excessive for a simple part that they may never ever find another buyer for.

My preferred choice is still to find the right part (used). i know that Philip Bashall had some of these shafts before he disposed of his stock.