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Bob Hobden

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• Nov 18, 2004

• #1

http://www.torotrak.com/torc.html

So how long before Ford put it in a Landrover?

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Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

 

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Paul S. Brown

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #2

Bob Hobden wrote:

> http://www.torotrak.com/torc.html
>
> So how long before Ford put it in a Landrover?
>

I think they already have.

Or at least, the setup in the Disco 3 with the auto box is probably capable
of pretty much everything shown there - the only thing that comes to mind
that isn't enabled by default is the "Vehicle position control" which would
be doable between the autobox, ABS and fly-by-wire throttle. It already has
the torque biasing by default along with lots of other funky stuff.

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Austin Shackles

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #3

On or around Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:03:50 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Bob Hobden wrote:
>
>> http://www.torotrak.com/torc.html
>>
>> So how long before Ford put it in a Landrover?
>>
>
>I think they already have.
>
>Or at least, the setup in the Disco 3 with the auto box is probably capable
>of pretty much everything shown there - the only thing that comes to mind
>that isn't enabled by default is the "Vehicle position control" which would
>be doable between the autobox, ABS and fly-by-wire throttle. It already has
>the torque biasing by default along with lots of other funky stuff.

I love the ideal of CVT - the basic mechanics of that go back 70+ years,
mind, they fitted one to an Austin 12 (IIRC) in the 30s. Wasn't much good
then, but materials science has advanced a bit - the latest one apparently
has a cunning lubricant related to the stuff in a viscous diff, which
transmits drive when under pressure (i.e. between the wheels and the
driving/driven rotors) and is liquid otherwise.

 

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Bob Hobden

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• Nov 19, 2004

• #4

Austin and Paul S. Brown
replied after
>>Bob Hobden wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.torotrak.com/torc.html
>>>
>>> So how long before Ford put it in a Landrover?
>>>
>>
>>I think they already have.
>>
>>Or at least, the setup in the Disco 3 with the auto box is probably
>>capable
>>of pretty much everything shown there - the only thing that comes to mind
>>that isn't enabled by default is the "Vehicle position control" which
>>would
>>be doable between the autobox, ABS and fly-by-wire throttle. It already
>>has
>>the torque biasing by default along with lots of other funky stuff.
>
> I love the ideal of CVT - the basic mechanics of that go back 70+ years,
> mind, they fitted one to an Austin 12 (IIRC) in the 30s. Wasn't much good
> then, but materials science has advanced a bit - the latest one apparently
> has a cunning lubricant related to the stuff in a viscous diff, which
> transmits drive when under pressure (i.e. between the wheels and the
> driving/driven rotors) and is liquid otherwise.
>
The advantage in this CVT system (or IVT), I understand, is that it can
provide top gear of up to 60mph per 1,000rpm for fuel economy. It's shown to
be slightly better than manual boxes and about 10% better than conventional
autos.
There are no torque converters, it's all done by rollers on output discs.
It's the angle between them that changes the output seamlessly. A completely
new type of auto box.
Did you look at the video?

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Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Nov 19, 2004

• #5

On or around Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:26:25 -0000, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>Austin and Paul S. Brown
>replied after
>>>Bob Hobden wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.torotrak.com/torc.html
>>>>
>>
>> I love the ideal of CVT - the basic mechanics of that go back 70+ years,
>> mind, they fitted one to an Austin 12 (IIRC) in the 30s. Wasn't much good
>> then, but materials science has advanced a bit - the latest one apparently
>> has a cunning lubricant related to the stuff in a viscous diff, which
>> transmits drive when under pressure (i.e. between the wheels and the
>> driving/driven rotors) and is liquid otherwise.
>>
>The advantage in this CVT system (or IVT), I understand, is that it can
>provide top gear of up to 60mph per 1,000rpm for fuel economy. It's shown to
>be slightly better than manual boxes and about 10% better than conventional
>autos.
>There are no torque converters, it's all done by rollers on output discs.
>It's the angle between them that changes the output seamlessly. A completely
>new type of auto box.
>Did you look at the video?

seen it before, from I think the same site. However, it's not a completely
new idea, the basis of the idea dates to ages-ago, but this lot have a new
slant on it and more to the point a new sort of lubricant/drive fluid.

I take it you saw

http://www.torotrak.com/media/virtualdrive.swf

And yes, I'd like one in me landy.