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Henry.adams

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Hi all

On my last disco I always just ran a 2 inch lift and 2 inch shocks. On my new one I’m looking for some more flex but I don’t want to lift it more than 2 inches because of all the extra costs. So is it possible to run for example 4 inch travel shock on a 2 inch lift. ?
 
I think standard shocks have over 10" of travel and offer enough just movement not to allow +2" springs to unseat...
I fitted longer (+4") shocks on my last D90 and soon found out I needed longer brake lines to the axles and spring retainers.
 
I think standard shocks have over 10" of travel and offer enough just movement not to allow +2" springs to unseat...
I fitted longer (+4") shocks on my last D90 and soon found out I needed longer brake lines to the axles and spring retainers.
So I could fit 4 inch shocks on a 2 inch lift I would just need dislocation cones a possibility brake lines
 
Depends. What are you really trying to achieve? What will it be used for and what kind of budget are you looking at?

In reality you don't need to 'lift' to get more flex. In fact you already have good ground clearance (same as a Defender if on same tyres). Are you willing to trim wheel arches?

I don't know of +4" shocks.....

BTW - I suspect at the front you won't get enough flex from the radius arms to even max out +2" shocks, so +4" will not give you anything any extra.

Also note that more than +2" shocks will likely need revised upper shock mounts, else you'll run the risk of bottoming out the shocks. Which will reduce over travel and cause damage. Extended bump stops might sort of solve this, but again only serve to actually limit articulation and flex, not increase it!

Long springs will mean you may not need dislocation cones (which is a compromise IMO). Soft springs also tend to flex better, but depends how heavy your rig is, what you haul and if you tow. Red/White Range Rover springs all round work quite well for reduce loading (softer rear).

Flatdog also offer some good springs, although I'd possible mix and match between the +2" Discovery, RRC and Defender ones to get the right spring rates for your needs. Disco's normally run dual rate rears, but no reason you couldn't run a Defender or RRC spring instead.

https://www.flatdoguk.com/disco-1-+2/hd1~454
https://www.flatdoguk.com/rr-classic-+2/std~459

Lot's of +2" shocks to choose from, although the Britpart celluar dynamics are pretty good for not a huge sum of money. Have also got on well with Procomps.

In terms of more flex than this.... The rear is quite easy to get more flex from, the A-frame works really well and longer shocks will give more travel. But as said, you'll need revise the upper mounts to allow the shock to safely compress. More flex than the +2" also means you'll want to look at a new wide angle prop.

The front is much harder to get more flex from, which is a bit more of a trade secret I'm afraid ;)

Depending on your use, you might consider an Ashcroft rear ATB diff. Similar money to a long travel suspension setup and highly effective off road.
 
So I could fit 4 inch shocks on a 2 inch lift I would just need dislocation cones a possibility brake lines

Remember that its the springs that hold the car 'up' the shocks (dampers) simply absorb any sudden loads, it's the springs that do the work.
Springs come in different compresion wieghts, this refers to the amount of wight (in Kg) to compress the spring by 1mm.
So a spring rate of 20 means 20Kgs will compress by 1mm.
This chart in pounds per inch http://www.bilashakaflowers.com/LandroverSprings.htm the conversion is XXX lbs/in ÷ 56 = Kg/mm

I have Terrafirma 'medium' springs on the front of my D90 which are 4.1Kg/mm (230lb/in) as I have a winch + bumper wieghing approx 50Kgs and +2" shocks.
The PN (previous numpty) had fitted yellow heavy wieght springs all round which I found to be harsh/rigid both on and off road.

I fitted longer brake lines and spring retainers to the rear as I had increased the articulation and I saw it was getting tight when I was fitting it all together, that was with 2" lift springs and +2" shocks.
(Pic before I changed ...)

rear-brake-line.JPG

REAR-NEAR-FITTED.JPG
 
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