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Well I can do it with two hammers and so could you if you tried, I'm not Arnie Schwartsnegger. All it takes is coordination. As for the driving the truck thing, (never mentioned a car, that was your invention) well maybe I'm older than you but it was a guy older than me who told me about it and he'd been in the trade for ever. Mechanics had all sorts of ways of doing stuff in the old days that he taught me, all of which work and none of which cost a ton of money or need a special tool. Of course nowadays we have a tool for everything, you probably have one to scratch your asre with, but the OP may possibly have no clue and not a lot of dosh. Am I so wrong for giving him various ways of trying to sort himself out? If you think this is gibberish then why don't you give the OP some real advice? Maybe you have some clever way of separating ball joints that I didn't cover. Go one M8, surprise us all. Not like you to troll quite so much. Had a bad day?