Landrover discovery 300 tdi

discobasher said:

Are you serious??????

How the fook do you think you could get all the remains of the glow plug out with anything other than taking the head off ???

Have you asked all the posters who suggested useing magnets and Blu Tack the same question.

I have taken heads off all sorts of engines and its by far easier and cheaper than just taking a chance.

I suppose you sceptics would take a chance with leaking brakes aswell would ya?

As far as the red letters go I dont think they were big enough.

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I feel sure if you read my replies on this one you'll find that I do say 'taking the head off is the best bet' BUT if the broken tip is STUCK in the head, engine compression MAY just blow it out.
I'd assumed that the original poster had checked to see if the broken tip was actually stuck in the head, if it is (as I suspect) stuck in the head no bloody magnet on Earth will shift it.

Stay cool.

Soloby Rob said:

I think so.

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Better touch yurself, if you know what I mean, to make sure. Oh and no pervertud replies.

david451 said:

Better touch yurself, if you know what I mean, to make sure. Oh and no pervertud replies.

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Just have done mate and I'm not sure.

Soloby Rob said:

I feel sure if you read my replies on this one you'll find that I do say 'taking the head off is the best bet' BUT if the broken tip is STUCK in the head, engine compression MAY just blow it out.
I'd assumed that the original poster had checked to see if the broken tip was actually stuck in the head, if it is (as I suspect) stuck in the head no bloody magnet on Earth will shift it.

Stay cool.

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Probably not, but it was still a better suggestion than start the engine.

Hi i have taken it to the garage thy are going to take cylider head off
thanks for all your help

tdigreen said:

Hi i have taken it to the garage thy are going to take cylider head off
thanks for all your help

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Probably the best idea, better than one daft suggestion made to you.
Hope you get sorted soon, you've been unlucky there.

discobasher said:

And its not as if the apperture for the glow plug would give you much of a chance of fishing the bits out is it?

I do worry about some of you..................................

If your cock ring slipped off inside the missus you would'nt **** about with crochet hooks to get it out.

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Would you have to take her head off to get the ring out or just blow compressed air up her arse?

chromiumuk said:

Probably not, but it was still a better suggestion than start the engine.

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Please allow me to explain,
Diesel glow plugs should be removed and checked every so often, and it’s best to fit new ones at about 40’000 but this rarely happens. The end result can be a tip gummed up with carbon and it twists off when the glow plug is removed. There is no way the twisted off tip can fall into the combustion chamber, and starting the engine can, with a bit of luck, blow the tip out. Sometimes it helps to loosen it with Plus Gas or WD40.
Believe me I do know what I’m talking about, I have done this several times over the years with great success. Going off Land Rover a bit, the Perkins Prima engine was capable of starship mileage and would continue to start with just one glow plug working, when this last plug gave up and the first frost of winter kicked in, it would be difficult to start and the owner would finally get it checked out.
I have one such customer, and this happened to his Montego some eight years ago, the car had done about 175’000 miles with just routine servicing and one cambelt change. Three glow plugs came out with a bit of persuasion, but one sheered off, I applied some Plus Gas and left it for an hour or so, fitted three new glow plugs and started the engine, it ran for about five minutes and the sheered off tip flew out with a bang. He continued to drive the car for another 100’000 miles and finally gave up on it when the body work fell off.
I have done the same to several XUD engines and a couple of 200/300 TDi’s, some won’t yield and the head has to come off.
Sorry it’s been a long winded reply.
Rob

Ok fair enough, I do understand what you're saying, but just out of interest, I thought that the Perkins Prima was a direct injection diesel & had a combustion chamber on the top of the piston itself and weren't quite so reliant on the glow plugs. I do remember the hype at the time about it being about 15% more economical being direct injection & after a couple of years apparently they introduced two stage injectors to help with the noise & smoothness of the engine. Must confess, I'm not sure how the glowplug setup is in this or the TDI though I know that the old Peugeot XUD was indirect injection & could see how they wouldn't drop straight into the engine.

Soloby Rob said:

Please allow me to explain,
Diesel glow plugs should be removed and checked every so often, and it’s best to fit new ones at about 40’000 but this rarely happens. The end result can be a tip gummed up with carbon and it twists off when the glow plug is removed. There is no way the twisted off tip can fall into the combustion chamber, and starting the engine can, with a bit of luck, blow the tip out. Sometimes it helps to loosen it with Plus Gas or WD40.
Believe me I do know what I’m talking about, I have done this several times over the years with great success. Going off Land Rover a bit, the Perkins Prima engine was capable of starship mileage and would continue to start with just one glow plug working, when this last plug gave up and the first frost of winter kicked in, it would be difficult to start and the owner would finally get it checked out.
I have one such customer, and this happened to his Montego some eight years ago, the car had done about 175’000 miles with just routine servicing and one cambelt change. Three glow plugs came out with a bit of persuasion, but one sheered off, I applied some Plus Gas and left it for an hour or so, fitted three new glow plugs and started the engine, it ran for about five minutes and the sheered off tip flew out with a bang. He continued to drive the car for another 100’000 miles and finally gave up on it when the body work fell off.
I have done the same to several XUD engines and a couple of 200/300 TDi’s, some won’t yield and the head has to come off.
Sorry it’s been a long winded reply.
Rob

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Well if it were me, and if it was stuck in the head then I would have wd40 it and run it aswel until the bastid blew out, might even have been tempted to give it a few taps with a long punch at the same time.

You could of course pressurize the cylinder with an airline and chap the fooker, bit like vietnam tho but do-able. Fook taking the head off unless all options and modifications have been applied. No point just fokin lookin at it.

david451 said:

Well if it were me, and if it was stuck in the head then I would have wd40 it and run it aswel until the bastid blew out, might even have been tempted to give it a few taps with a long punch at the same time.

You could of course pressurize the cylinder with an airline and chap the fooker, bit like vietnam tho but do-able. Fook taking the head off unless all options and modifications have been applied. No point just fokin lookin at it.

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Top man.

Rob.

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andrew j said:

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Spot on mate.

I don't know if this has been said in the 4 pages before, but try taking the injector out, and blowing down it with an airline, if your lucky the tip will blast out.

Worked for CharlesY when he had the same problem.

would i be right in saying he would have to make sure that cylinder has to be t d c and he uses the air line through the heater plug opening to have a better chance ???/?????