Just started painting...HELP!!

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John Stokes

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I'm planning on trying to get my Defender painted this weekend and I've just
tried a bit of the paint to see if it covers alright. It does, but as the
roller goes over it the paint is coming away as long fine fibres. I'm using
a normal gloss roller, has anyone got any idea why this is happening??????
Cheers, John


 

"John Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm planning on trying to get my Defender painted this weekend and I've
> just tried a bit of the paint to see if it covers alright. It does, but
> as the roller goes over it the paint is coming away as long fine fibres.
> I'm using a normal gloss roller, has anyone got any idea why this is
> happening??????
> Cheers, John
>

Roller?
I thought you said you were painting the Defender, but you must have meant
to say "fence".



 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:04:33 +0100, "John Stokes"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm planning on trying to get my Defender painted this weekend and I've just
>tried a bit of the paint to see if it covers alright. It does, but as the
>roller goes over it the paint is coming away as long fine fibres. I'm using
>a normal gloss roller, has anyone got any idea why this is happening??????
> Cheers, John
>

What type of paint and how much have you thinned it?

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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
'06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck"
 
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:24:03 +0100, CraigB <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> "John Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm planning on trying to get my Defender painted this weekend and I've
>> just tried a bit of the paint to see if it covers alright. It does, but
>> as the roller goes over it the paint is coming away as long fine fibres.
>> I'm using a normal gloss roller, has anyone got any idea why this is
>> happening??????
>> Cheers, John
>>
>
> Roller?
> I thought you said you were painting the Defender, but you must have
> meant
> to say "fence".

Maybe he's painting the Defender through the fence.

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 
It's synthetic. The guy at the shop told me to use a 90/10% mix for
spraying, which sounds thick to me, but I used that mix with the roller just
to try it.
Cheers, John


 
90/10 is way too thick for rollering, you'll end up with orange peel effect.
As i don't know the particular paint, i'd suggest taking a small amount and
thinning to suit noting the quantities of thinner/paint. try on an old piece
of metal etc before rollering the landy. Personally the few times i've
rollered a vehicle using autopaint synthetic is to thin the mix to around 70
paint 30 thinners and recoated the following day after a light sandpapering
with a 60 paint 40 thinners mix. As always though with painting, a clean
environment is essential. I saw one fella smoking whilst painting!, not only
very dangerous with the fumes etc but he dropped cig ash on the roof and
simply rollered it in!

Jock
 
[email protected] wrote:
> 90/10 is way too thick for rollering, you'll end up with orange peel effect.
> As i don't know the particular paint, i'd suggest taking a small amount and
> thinning to suit noting the quantities of thinner/paint. try on an old piece
> of metal etc before rollering the landy. Personally the few times i've
> rollered a vehicle using autopaint synthetic is to thin the mix to around 70
> paint 30 thinners and recoated the following day after a light sandpapering
> with a 60 paint 40 thinners mix. As always though with painting, a clean
> environment is essential. I saw one fella smoking whilst painting!, not only
> very dangerous with the fumes etc but he dropped cig ash on the roof and
> simply rollered it in!

Yes - you need it in a clean (sealed if possible) environment. I do a
lot of painting of antique furniture for my business, and unless the
area is completely clean and clear of dust, you get loads of dust
settling on the finish, which then ruins it. I don't know about
painting a vehicle, but I always paint with a brush as you get a better
finish (if you buy a *good* quality brush) as rollers always leave a
bubbled [orange peel] effect no matter what you do. I don't suppose it
matters so much on a Defender, but it does on a piece of furniture! All
depends on how fussy you are about the finish I guess.

Matt
 
Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> uttered
summat worrerz funny about:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> 90/10 is way too thick for rollering, you'll end up with orange peel
>> effect. As i don't know the particular paint, i'd suggest taking a
>> small amount and thinning to suit noting the quantities of
>> thinner/paint. try on an old piece of metal etc before rollering the
>> landy. Personally the few times i've rollered a vehicle using
>> autopaint synthetic is to thin the mix to around 70 paint 30
>> thinners and recoated the following day after a light sandpapering
>> with a 60 paint 40 thinners mix. As always though with painting, a
>> clean environment is essential. I saw one fella smoking whilst
>> painting!, not only very dangerous with the fumes etc but he dropped
>> cig ash on the roof and simply rollered it in!
>
> Yes - you need it in a clean (sealed if possible) environment. I do a
> lot of painting of antique furniture for my business, and unless the
> area is completely clean and clear of dust, you get loads of dust
> settling on the finish, which then ruins it. I don't know about
> painting a vehicle, but I always paint with a brush as you get a
> better finish (if you buy a *good* quality brush) as rollers always
> leave a bubbled [orange peel] effect no matter what you do. I don't
> suppose it matters so much on a Defender, but it does on a piece of
> furniture! All depends on how fussy you are about the finish I guess.
>
> Matt

I've had good results with a roller, accepting it'll never be as good as a
spay job. I cut in the tight bits with a brush first then roller the rest,
do a pannel at a time and always try to keep the edge you are working to wet
(which is much simpler with a roller)

<http://www.lrproject.com/percy/painted/index.html>

John try it 50 / 50 and play about at that.

I also used a roller per side as they can get gummed up. I did the roof on
the 101 prior to Eastnor with cheap rollers and the ends wound off. the
moreexpensive ones are fine though, had no such trouble with Percy.

Lee D


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them enough rope and they'll be stuck in a ditch with a lot of rope ;-) "


 
90/10 is way too thick for rollering, you'll end up with orange peel effect.
As i don't know the particular paint, i'd suggest taking a small amount and
thinning to suit noting the quantities of thinner/paint. try on an old piece
of metal etc before rollering the landy. Personally the few times i've
rollered a vehicle using autopaint synthetic is to thin the mix to around 70
paint 30 thinners and recoated the following day after a light sandpapering
with a 60 paint 40 thinners mix. As always though with painting, a clean
environment is essential. I saw one fella smoking whilst painting!, not only
very dangerous with the fumes etc but he dropped cig ash on the roof and
simply rollered it in!

Jock
 
[email protected] wrote:
> 90/10 is way too thick for rollering, you'll end up with orange peel effect.
> As i don't know the particular paint, i'd suggest taking a small amount and
> thinning to suit noting the quantities of thinner/paint. try on an old piece
> of metal etc before rollering the landy. Personally the few times i've
> rollered a vehicle using autopaint synthetic is to thin the mix to around 70
> paint 30 thinners and recoated the following day after a light sandpapering
> with a 60 paint 40 thinners mix. As always though with painting, a clean
> environment is essential. I saw one fella smoking whilst painting!, not only
> very dangerous with the fumes etc but he dropped cig ash on the roof and
> simply rollered it in!

Yes - you need it in a clean (sealed if possible) environment. I do a
lot of painting of antique furniture for my business, and unless the
area is completely clean and clear of dust, you get loads of dust
settling on the finish, which then ruins it. I don't know about
painting a vehicle, but I always paint with a brush as you get a better
finish (if you buy a *good* quality brush) as rollers always leave a
bubbled [orange peel] effect no matter what you do. I don't suppose it
matters so much on a Defender, but it does on a piece of furniture! All
depends on how fussy you are about the finish I guess.

Matt
 
Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> uttered
summat worrerz funny about:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> 90/10 is way too thick for rollering, you'll end up with orange peel
>> effect. As i don't know the particular paint, i'd suggest taking a
>> small amount and thinning to suit noting the quantities of
>> thinner/paint. try on an old piece of metal etc before rollering the
>> landy. Personally the few times i've rollered a vehicle using
>> autopaint synthetic is to thin the mix to around 70 paint 30
>> thinners and recoated the following day after a light sandpapering
>> with a 60 paint 40 thinners mix. As always though with painting, a
>> clean environment is essential. I saw one fella smoking whilst
>> painting!, not only very dangerous with the fumes etc but he dropped
>> cig ash on the roof and simply rollered it in!
>
> Yes - you need it in a clean (sealed if possible) environment. I do a
> lot of painting of antique furniture for my business, and unless the
> area is completely clean and clear of dust, you get loads of dust
> settling on the finish, which then ruins it. I don't know about
> painting a vehicle, but I always paint with a brush as you get a
> better finish (if you buy a *good* quality brush) as rollers always
> leave a bubbled [orange peel] effect no matter what you do. I don't
> suppose it matters so much on a Defender, but it does on a piece of
> furniture! All depends on how fussy you are about the finish I guess.
>
> Matt

I've had good results with a roller, accepting it'll never be as good as a
spay job. I cut in the tight bits with a brush first then roller the rest,
do a pannel at a time and always try to keep the edge you are working to wet
(which is much simpler with a roller)

<http://www.lrproject.com/percy/painted/index.html>

John try it 50 / 50 and play about at that.

I also used a roller per side as they can get gummed up. I did the roof on
the 101 prior to Eastnor with cheap rollers and the ends wound off. the
moreexpensive ones are fine though, had no such trouble with Percy.

Lee D


--
www.lrproject.com

a.f.l. & 101ers Unofficial October 2006
<http://www.lrproject.com/afl__101_owners_unofficial.htm>

"Anti's - Give
them enough rope and they'll be stuck in a ditch with a lot of rope ;-) "


 
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