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Hi Guys

First post for me.

Im considering getting a Range Rover 2002-2004 HSE/Vogue however due to budgets etc I havent got a lot to Spend 12K. I am seriously considering purchasing one with 100K on the clock - firstly is this just opening a can of worms, would you recommend the 4.4P or the 3.0D TDV? Serious replies please:p

Cheers Guys
 
Hi MAgicTiny

4K for just in case is that overkill or just experience from a RR owner?! I wouldnt mind getting getting the newer shape (l322?) so probably 10k on RR and 2k for just in case

Its early days so going to shop around
 
highnoon said:
Hi Guys

First post for me.

Im considering getting a Range Rover 2002-2004 HSE/Vogue however due to budgets etc I havent got a lot to Spend 12K. I am seriously considering purchasing one with 100K on the clock - firstly is this just opening a can of worms, would you recommend the 4.4P or the 3.0D TDV? Serious replies please:p

Cheers Guys
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Hi mate, depending if you like your toys in the car e.g. Sat nav, tv, heated rear seats etc... If you do then you want the vogue spec, the HSE spec is the basic model without any of the fancy toys. The 02-05 models come in two flavours a 4.4 V8 petrol and I think its a 2.7 or 3.6 TD6 (not a TDV8 these are in the later models from 06 onwards) the 4.4 v8 petrol engine is known to be pretty much bullet proof as long as it's been well looked after and the TD6 is a decsent engine but can leave you wanting a bit more power sometimes. Both cars have been known to suffer some what with there auto gearboxes although the diesel auto box suffers more problems and has been know to break for the fun of it. If you get one of these cars with over 50-60k miles on the clock you need to make sure you get the auto fluid changed asap and replace it with the correct fluid you cannot put any other brand or type apart from the manufactured specific fluid. In the hand book it says they are filled for life but life really means around 60k miles. I got a 2003 4.4 v8 vogue and it is a brilliant car although they do suffer with battery drain issues but so do almost all other range rovers, they realie on their batteries. I posted a list of things to check for before purchasing a L322 on here so just do a quick search and you will find it, it's quite long so you need time to check the car over I spent 2 days going over the car before buying and I still find issues after having the car for almost 2 months. They are great cars but some have had hard lives, no matter how old or how many miles it may have done you need the time, money and enthuasim to maintain these vehicles, they are not cars you can just buy and forget about they require constant maintenance and looking after. You have to remember these cars were between £60-£80k when new so they are quite expensive to maintain a new auto box alone can set you back between £2000-£4000 and that's for a refurb one. Nothing comes cheap for a range rover, if you haven't got the time or money to invest in the maintenance of these vehicles then you should look elese where but if you want a car they will give you lots of pleasure and excitement to drive then go ahead and get one they are excellent cars and well worth the extra time, effort and money.

Matt
 
Matt is spot on.

A few years back i bought a 95 fully loaded softdash RRC 3.9 with 125,000 on the clock, 118,000 with one owner. It had a full service history including all receipts for the services. It had been a company directors car so it was Dealer serviced for the first 118k. I sat down one day and totted up what he had spent on servicing. Bear in mind the purchase price in 95 was around £30k. IIRC he had spent that again on servicing !!! These are not cheap to run. So while you are buying a Range Rover for second hand Fiesta money they are still Rolls Royce money to keep.

With the P38 diesel we always advised people to put away £1,500 for a new head which would inevitably go. With the L322 the air suspension is a couple of hundred per corner and the gearbox is prone to failure so Magictiny might not be totally off the mark with his reserve fund unless you're real good on the spanners. What I would say is that if you are anyway handy then to immediatly buy dignostics out of your reserve fund. If the RR starts to play up then it will pay for itself in no time.

THEEE most important thing if you ae buying is for it to have is FSH. Search for Matts post (just click the view all post by matt button in is public page) he put in a monster post together on buying one and the various problems with them. IIRC he even included the recall stuff to watch out for.

I would say personaly that unless you're doing big mileage that a well serviced high mile one is a better value buy than a low mileage one. If you're doing less than say 10k per year then a well maintained, fully recorded 100k+ car will be far better value than a 60k with patchy history. I found with my P38 that even though the service book was fully stamped and all but the last was dealer serviced it didn't come with the history. I should have known better but I really liked the car so bought it anyway. Turned out that was for a reason. It had blown the head, maybe even twice. No record of that, it wasn't until it did it again shortly after buying it that I found out. V.Expensive mistake. One I won't be making again. If its dealer stamped but doesn't have the history then its likely got something to hide.
 
SpudH said:
Matt is spot on.

A few years back i bought a 95 fully loaded softdash RRC 3.9 with 125,000 on the clock, 118,000 with one owner. It had a full service history including all receipts for the services. It had been a company directors car so it was Dealer serviced for the first 118k. I sat down one day and totted up what he had spent on servicing. Bear in mind the purchase price in 95 was around £30k. IIRC he had spent that again on servicing !!! These are not cheap to run. So while you are buying a Range Rover for second hand Fiesta money they are still Rolls Royce money to keep.

With the P38 diesel we always advised people to put away £1,500 for a new head which would inevitably go. With the L322 the air suspension is a couple of hundred per corner and the gearbox is prone to failure so Magictiny might not be totally off the mark with his reserve fund unless you're real good on the spanners. What I would say is that if you are anyway handy then to immediatly buy dignostics out of your reserve fund. If the RR starts to play up then it will pay for itself in no time.

THEEE most important thing if you ae buying is for it to have is FSH. Search for Matts post (just click the view all post by matt button in is public page) he put in a monster post together on buying one and the various problems with them. IIRC he even included the recall stuff to watch out for.

I would say personaly that unless you're doing big mileage that a well serviced high mile one is a better value buy than a low mileage one. If you're doing less than say 10k per year then a well maintained, fully recorded 100k+ car will be far better value than a 60k with patchy history. I found with my P38 that even though the service book was fully stamped and all but the last was dealer serviced it didn't come with the history. I should have known better but I really liked the car so bought it anyway. Turned out that was for a reason. It had blown the head, maybe even twice. No record of that, it wasn't until it did it again shortly after buying it that I found out. V.Expensive mistake. One I won't be making again. If its dealer stamped but doesn't have the history then its likely got something to hide.
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Cheers mate for your nice comments, with regards to range rovers not having the history with them, if they have been serviced by a main dealer then almost 100% of the time they put the history on the computer system. If you call land rover customer service you can get a copy sent to you, this is what happened to mine it had been stamped by the dealers but no history in the paper work it wasnt until i called land rover up that i got this information and there wasnt anything to hide on the vehicle its just they keep all the cars records on the computer so all dealers can access the cars history.

Matt
 
Blimey Thanks for the in depth reply guys much appriciated. Think im going to do some "real" reasearch and see what happens - Quite a lot of factors to consider as I may change jobs within the next few months as I do monster mileage at the moment so need to see where that takes me first...

By the way I drive a Nissan Murano and on the road quite a bit But any time I see a Range I just stare at them thinking "I want that one!!"

Thanks again guys and Matt I'm about to find your post so in advance thank you
:)
 
Matt

Thanks a bunch - You guys are brill...

Will give you an update in a month or 2


Cheers again!
 
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