I've found a Warren!

Just been to my local chappy who does my BIG welding to consult over the
towbar on Morph. I was tinkering with adding more artilliery to it but
having worked through some maths I'm happy the existing Towbar set up or
more than adequate for towing... snatch recovery with both axles bogged down
may be another thing so I've got a shovel a A it's less work , B I don't
want to rip the arse end out of the truck be being over zealous with snatch
recoveries.

I did add a couple of bolts which we both aggreed was overengineering but a
"peace of mind" thing.

Then spent an hour discussing, Perkins Conversions (old days - not another
project!) , IIa's, CSW's, Morphs interior, Roof racks (they do BIG welding),
Roof conversions and finally came to settle , he only wanted a quid. Gave
him a tenner in the end. Super blokes.. I said I would have had to go out
and get some drill bits & Bolts anyway to have done the job so it was worth
that much to me. He drags me in the workshop and reveals bargain of the
century...

<http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7000027.htm>

Off to "ARRGUUS" (designer tool outlet) shortly.

Lee
--
www.lrproject.com
Reaching the parts other Landrover restorers can't reach - JLo makes new
home in the USA.
Percy IIa - two Engines to the mile, awaits a new chassis.
Morph - He's "living the dream".

a.f.l. & 101ers Unofficial October 2006
<http://www.lrproject.com/afl__101_owners_unofficial.htm>

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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You a rabbit or summat?

Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
>
>
> You a rabbit or summat?

Funny thats what the Mrs keeps asking too...

;-)

Lee

<snip>
> <http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7000027.htm>
>
> Off to "ARRGUUS" (designer tool outlet) shortly.
>
> Lee
> --

damn you damn you damn you

6 weeks trapped at home (doctors orders to rest - I hate it!) and then I
realise that there is something I haven't got, and that there is an argos
call and collect place round the corner. Mrs K is going to be less than
impressed about this ;-)

Mind you, speaking of excellent engineering type chaps, guy that I found
down here - becaue of my enforced not allowed to do things, got him out to
change the discs and pads on the front of the disco. He was here for two
and a half hours, i'd already got the parts from our esteemed expert here
(Hi Richard), seventy three quid. Yes you read correctly!!! Two and a half
hours cost me seventy three quid. I was amazed.

I've just called him to see if he can do the UJ's on the propshaft for me
(driving me nuts and again cos i'm not allowed to do it yet) he apologised -
"I can't get out to see you till tomorrow" - like I was going to argue even
if it was next week.

Si

On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:02:44 +0100, Lee_D wrote:

> He drags me in the workshop and reveals bargain of the century...
>
> Off to "ARRGUUS" (designer tool outlet) shortly.

What are they made of? Mild steel or something that will actually take a
bit or torque before deforming into a corkscrew?

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

On Thu, 18 May 2006 16:59:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:02:44 +0100, Lee_D wrote:
>
>> He drags me in the workshop and reveals bargain of the century...
>>
>> Off to "ARRGUUS" (designer tool outlet) shortly.
>
>What are they made of? Mild steel or something that will actually take a
>bit or torque before deforming into a corkscrew?

That's what i was thinking. These cheap tools are all very well, but
if you plan on doing real work......

It's funny, all the tools i have that have lasted are over 20 years
old. Anything i've bought in the last 10 years has disintegrated,
snapped, bent or broken.

Alex

Alex wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 16:59:57 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:02:44 +0100, Lee_D wrote:
>>
>>
>>>He drags me in the workshop and reveals bargain of the century...
>>>
>>>Off to "ARRGUUS" (designer tool outlet) shortly.
>>
>>What are they made of? Mild steel or something that will actually take a
>>bit or torque before deforming into a corkscrew?
>
>
> That's what i was thinking. These cheap tools are all very well, but
> if you plan on doing real work......
>
> It's funny, all the tools i have that have lasted are over 20 years
> old. Anything i've bought in the last 10 years has disintegrated,
> snapped, bent or broken.
>
> Alex
Same goes with me and vehicles...

Stuart

Srtgray <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Alex wrote:
>> It's funny, all the tools i have that have lasted are over 20 years
>> old. Anything i've bought in the last 10 years has disintegrated,
>> snapped, bent or broken.
>>
>> Alex
> Same goes with me and vehicles...
>
> Stuart


I didn't expect for one minute though they are going to be the same spec as
the likes of B&D Pirranha bits which I have found to be the best so far for
general shop metal work, not withstanding 300 items for 24.99 is still a
cracking deal IMO even if they only last a short while. The reality of me
needing to use all of them regularly is remote. For any serious drilling for
tapping threads etc I buy engineering drill bits which cost way more than
anything we find in the DIY store and last considerably longer. For me
kitting out the 101 this kit is belting though.

It would be worth a tenner just to have all my drills where I can find them,
I've spent far longer looking for illusive tools than working on projects.

Lee

On Thu, 18 May 2006 20:03:22 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> scribbled the following
nonsense:

>Srtgray <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Alex wrote:
>>> It's funny, all the tools i have that have lasted are over 20 years
>>> old. Anything i've bought in the last 10 years has disintegrated,
>>> snapped, bent or broken.
>>>
>>> Alex
>> Same goes with me and vehicles...
>>
>> Stuart
>
>
>I didn't expect for one minute though they are going to be the same spec as
>the likes of B&D Pirranha bits which I have found to be the best so far for
>general shop metal work, not withstanding 300 items for 24.99 is still a
>cracking deal IMO even if they only last a short while. The reality of me
>needing to use all of them regularly is remote. For any serious drilling for
>tapping threads etc I buy engineering drill bits which cost way more than
>anything we find in the DIY store and last considerably longer. For me
>kitting out the 101 this kit is belting though.
>
>It would be worth a tenner just to have all my drills where I can find them,
>I've spent far longer looking for illusive tools than working on projects.
>
>Lee
>

yes, there is a wonderful little gremlin whose sole purpose in life is
to hide tools when you most need them!
--

Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

ROT13 me....

On Thu, 18 May 2006 20:12:15 +0100, Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> wrote:

>yes, there is a wonderful little gremlin whose sole purpose in life is
>to hide tools when you most need them!

Last weekend i had 3 clutches to do on saabs (doing my car, dads old
car and stealing bits off my parts car too).
So what did I loose but the special tool that you need to keep it
compressed. Still aint found it yet either. I bet it wont turn up
until i order its replacement .

I'd saved them all up for the same time too! I shouldnt need it again
for a long time now!

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 20:12:15 +0100, Simon Isaacs
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>yes, there is a wonderful little gremlin whose sole purpose in life is
>>to hide tools when you most need them!
>
> Last weekend i had 3 clutches to do on saabs (doing my car, dads old
> car and stealing bits off my parts car too).
> So what did I loose but the special tool that you need to keep it
> compressed. Still aint found it yet either. I bet it wont turn up
> until i order its replacement .
>
> I'd saved them all up for the same time too! I shouldnt need it again
> for a long time now!

Try sneaking up on the lost items it always works for me. You do look like
you need specialist medical attention though

Icky

On Thu, 18 May 2006 20:12:15 +0100, Simon Isaacs wrote:

> yes, there is a wonderful little gremlin whose sole purpose in life is
> to hide tools when you most need them!

Little bar steward follows you around as well. Put down a tool, turn
round, turn back to pick it back up and it's gone!

Pity the Argus web site doesn't give a bit more detail about that kit.
I'd probably not want 90% of them most of the time but just occasionally
you find this odd fastner that needs a special tool that you haven't got.
Mind I bet it won't be in that 300 peice kit either but with 300 to
choose from the file can come out...

--
Cheers [email protected]
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 20:12:15 +0100, Simon Isaacs
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >yes, there is a wonderful little gremlin whose sole purpose in life is
> >to hide tools when you most need them!
>
> Last weekend i had 3 clutches to do on saabs (doing my car, dads old
> car and stealing bits off my parts car too).
> So what did I loose but the special tool that you need to keep it
> compressed. Still aint found it yet either. I bet it wont turn up
> until i order its replacement .
>
> I'd saved them all up for the same time too! I shouldnt need it again
> for a long time now!

It's a long time since I have done one of those but never needed a special
tool. All I used to have were two semi circles of 5/16" steel bundy tubing
of about 3" radius tucked into the pressure plate between the cover and the
diaphragm spring as the pedal was released. Held it compressed no problem
and hardly cost anything if you did happen to lose them. Just as a matter of
interest, how much *does* the special tool cost?, not that I am likely to
come across one of those again!

Martin

On Thu, 18 May 2006 22:20:49 +0100, "Oily"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>It's a long time since I have done one of those but never needed a special
>tool. All I used to have were two semi circles of 5/16" steel bundy tubing
>of about 3" radius tucked into the pressure plate between the cover and the
>diaphragm spring as the pedal was released. Held it compressed no problem
>and hardly cost anything if you did happen to lose them. Just as a matter of
>interest, how much *does* the special tool cost?, not that I am likely to
>come across one of those again!

You can do it with an old HT lead if you like too.. however the proper
tool makes it so much easier!
Its a metal loop that springs outwards - so you fight it into place,
then go into the car and press the clutch and the loop springs out
between the fingers and the cover and holds the fingers down for you.
When done get an assistant to push down the pedal while you pull it
out.

Since the amount of clearance needed is so critical (dont leave the
fingers quite compressed enough and it takes a lot of levering and
swearing to get the clutch and slave out - the tool makes it much
quicker.
If i had a decent workshop i could probably make a spacer ring of the
exact right size really easily and for nothing but i dont

The tool is £10 - I did a few without it so its worth it to me as they
took ages!
Cheaper than the water pump removal tool which set me back close to
£70 (but has had 3 uses so far)

Since i own far too many saabs (2 99's on the road and one in storage
currently, plus dad has one and i've just scrapped a couple) I get my
monies worth out of it

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 22:20:49 +0100, "Oily"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >It's a long time since I have done one of those but never needed a
special
> >tool. All I used to have were two semi circles of 5/16" steel bundy
tubing
> >of about 3" radius tucked into the pressure plate between the cover and
the
> >diaphragm spring as the pedal was released. Held it compressed no problem
> >and hardly cost anything if you did happen to lose them. Just as a matter
of
> >interest, how much *does* the special tool cost?, not that I am likely to
> >come across one of those again!
>
I meant not come across a Saab clutch job again, not the tool.

> You can do it with an old HT lead if you like too.. however the proper
> tool makes it so much easier!

I think an old HT lead would probably crush enough so that you wouldn't have
enough clearance but the steel tubing doesn't.

> Its a metal loop that springs outwards - so you fight it into place,
> then go into the car and press the clutch and the loop springs out
> between the fingers and the cover and holds the fingers down for you.
> When done get an assistant to push down the pedal while you pull it
> out.
>
It's probably easier with the two pieces of tube because you do need
someone to release the clutch slowly whilst you hold them in to remove the
clutch but they practically fall out by themselves when you disengage the
refitted clutch (and you save a tenner)

Martin

> Since the amount of clearance needed is so critical (dont leave the
> fingers quite compressed enough and it takes a lot of levering and
> swearing to get the clutch and slave out - the tool makes it much
> quicker.
> If i had a decent workshop i could probably make a spacer ring of the
> exact right size really easily and for nothing but i dont
>
> The tool is £10 - I did a few without it so its worth it to me as they
> took ages!
> Cheaper than the water pump removal tool which set me back close to
> £70 (but has had 3 uses so far)
>
> Since i own far too many saabs (2 99's on the road and one in storage
> currently, plus dad has one and i've just scrapped a couple) I get my
> monies worth out of it

On or around Thu, 18 May 2006 20:40:39 +0100, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Thu, 18 May 2006 20:12:15 +0100, Simon Isaacs
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>yes, there is a wonderful little gremlin whose sole purpose in life is
>>to hide tools when you most need them!
>
>Last weekend i had 3 clutches to do on saabs (doing my car, dads old
>car and stealing bits off my parts car too).
>So what did I loose but the special tool that you need to keep it
>compressed. Still aint found it yet either. I bet it wont turn up
>until i order its replacement .
>
>I'd saved them all up for the same time too! I shouldnt need it again
>for a long time now!

ISTR that the clutch swap on the SAAB was about the easiest clutch I've ever
found. 1985 900 we had. I remember being amazed at how easy it was.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Srtgray <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Alex wrote:
>>> It's funny, all the tools i have that have lasted are over 20 years
>>> old. Anything i've bought in the last 10 years has disintegrated,
>>> snapped, bent or broken.
>>>
>>> Alex
>> Same goes with me and vehicles...
>>
>> Stuart
>
>
> I didn't expect for one minute though they are going to be the same spec
> as the likes of B&D Pirranha bits which I have found to be the best so far
> for general shop metal work, not withstanding 300 items for 24.99 is still
> a cracking deal IMO even if they only last a short while. The reality of
> me needing to use all of them regularly is remote. For any serious
> drilling for tapping threads etc I buy engineering drill bits which cost
> way more than anything we find in the DIY store and last considerably
> longer. For me kitting out the 101 this kit is belting though.
>
> It would be worth a tenner just to have all my drills where I can find
> them, I've spent far longer looking for illusive tools than working on
> projects.
>
> Lee
Oi Lee mate you know how I get with retail (tool) therapy give me a break
will you I've already added a stepup toolbox to the oil filter wrench I
could fall of the edge here.
Derek

rooting through an old tool box tother day and found the tool for ford pinto engine cam belts!
not seen/used it in 7 yrs.
but you can gaurantee that when i do need it, itll be hiding from me.