It would happen just b4 Xmas

hugh · Dec 23, 2004

Went out this morning to start the motor.

Chug.... chug.... chug....

Battery almost flat. No time to do usual checks - earth strap,
alternator voltage. Must have replacement as we're on standby because of
weather forecast (Staffs Search & Rescue). Battery is 6 years old so
it's a fair bet it's passed its use by date.

Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock

Aaaagh. Totally clueless albeit very pleasant YL on other end of phone.

Surprise surprise Land Rover Defender 90 50th Anniversary limited
edition 4.0 litre V8 isn't listed.

O.K. then that's understandable. How about an SAE 800A RC 200 Type 663
Lucas Yuasa replacement for?

Sorry sir we only do them by vehicle model and yours isn't listed.

Checked against RR 4.0 litre of same vintage and my battery is much
higher rated SAE than the listed one. Anyone any idea why that should
be? I haven't had the vehicle from new, bought it when 2 years old. No
signs of any winch ever been fitted. (I checked before I bought it for
any signs of serious off-roading.)
--
hugh
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Dougal · Dec 23, 2004

> Checked against RR 4.0 litre of same vintage and my battery is much
> higher rated SAE than the listed one. Anyone any idea why that should be?

If the (previous) owner is anything like me, he/she'll have installed a
replacement battery with the highest CCA rating that will physically fit
the battery tray/clamp. If I can modify either the tray and/or the clamp
to gain some space I'll do it.

The problem with the RR is that there is nor much scope for making
battery space.

Huw · Dec 23, 2004

"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out this morning to start the motor.
>
> Chug.... chug.... chug....
>
> Battery almost flat. No time to do usual checks - earth strap, alternator
> voltage. Must have replacement as we're on standby because of weather
> forecast (Staffs Search & Rescue). Battery is 6 years old so it's a fair
> bet it's passed its use by date.
>
> Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock
>
> Aaaagh. Totally clueless albeit very pleasant YL on other end of phone.
>
> Surprise surprise Land Rover Defender 90 50th Anniversary limited edition
> 4.0 litre V8 isn't listed.
>
> O.K. then that's understandable. How about an SAE 800A RC 200 Type 663
> Lucas Yuasa replacement for?
>
> Sorry sir we only do them by vehicle model and yours isn't listed.
>
> Checked against RR 4.0 litre of same vintage and my battery is much higher
> rated SAE than the listed one. Anyone any idea why that should be? I
> haven't had the vehicle from new, bought it when 2 years old. No signs of
> any winch ever been fitted. (I checked before I bought it for any signs of
> serious off-roading.)

Type 663 battery is probably one of the most common batteries available and
is traded by the shed load by most motor factors, land rover dealers, rural
garages and agricultural machinery dealers. It was fitted as original
equipment to diesel Land Rovers for many years and shed loads of Massey
Ferguson tractors.
Expect to pay no more than £50+VAT for a good quality heavy duty version.
Budget manufacturers may retail these for upwards of £35+vat. The low prices
are a reflection of units built and sold.

Huw

Tim Hobbs · Dec 23, 2004

I can't see why a battery for a Range Rover wouldn't be ideal - you
have fewer electronics to power and the same engine to crank. That is
assuming it will fit in the battery bay.

I've bought batteries from Halfords, but you pay well over the odds.
I think the last HD one for the Discovery was about £70 and the motor
factor one I got after that was £45 for the same rating.

Incidentally, and this prolly doesnt apply to yours, but the Halfords
one listed for the Disco didn't fit. The terminals were the wrong way
round. As they were recessed simply turning the battery t'tother way
didn't work - the cables weren't long enough.

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AN6530 · Dec 23, 2004

>Subject: It would happen just b4 Xmas
>From: hugh hugh@[127.0.0.1]
>Date: 23/12/2004 18:17 GMT

<snip>
>Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock
<hooge snip>

Phone Halfords! Now that is where you went wrong ;-)

Steve. Suffolk.
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hugh · Dec 23, 2004

In message <[email protected]>, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> writes
>I can't see why a battery for a Range Rover wouldn't be ideal - you
>have fewer electronics to power and the same engine to crank. That is
>assuming it will fit in the battery bay.
>
>I've bought batteries from Halfords, but you pay well over the odds.
>I think the last HD one for the Discovery was about £70 and the motor
>factor one I got after that was £45 for the same rating.
>
>Incidentally, and this prolly doesnt apply to yours, but the Halfords
>one listed for the Disco didn't fit. The terminals were the wrong way
>round. As they were recessed simply turning the battery t'tother way
>didn't work - the cables weren't long enough.
>
>
Actually it might apply cos the I was looking at was also quoted for the
4.0 litre Disco. Incidentally Halfords batteries are also manufactured
by Yuaso, formerly Lucas Yuaso formally Lucas Batteries.
--
hugh
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hugh · Dec 23, 2004

In message <[email protected]>, AN6530
<[email protected]> writes
>>Subject: It would happen just b4 Xmas
>>From: hugh hugh@[127.0.0.1]
>>Date: 23/12/2004 18:17 GMT
>
><snip>
>>Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock
><hooge snip>
>
>Phone Halfords! Now that is where you went wrong ;-)
>
>
>
>Steve. Suffolk.
>remove 'knujon' to e-mail
>
Yes I realised that after about 15 secs - but she did sound quite
pleasant and when you are an old fart like me you can but dream

--
hugh
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Jinx · Dec 23, 2004

If your after a comparison the check out the auto express web site, they
have many good reviews including batteries!

Worth a quick look just for the info

Jinx

"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out this morning to start the motor.
>
> Chug.... chug.... chug....
>
> Battery almost flat. No time to do usual checks - earth strap, alternator
> voltage. Must have replacement as we're on standby because of weather
> forecast (Staffs Search & Rescue). Battery is 6 years old so it's a fair
> bet it's passed its use by date.
>
> Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock
>
> Aaaagh. Totally clueless albeit very pleasant YL on other end of phone.
>
> Surprise surprise Land Rover Defender 90 50th Anniversary limited edition
> 4.0 litre V8 isn't listed.
>
> O.K. then that's understandable. How about an SAE 800A RC 200 Type 663
> Lucas Yuasa replacement for?
>
> Sorry sir we only do them by vehicle model and yours isn't listed.
>
> Checked against RR 4.0 litre of same vintage and my battery is much higher
> rated SAE than the listed one. Anyone any idea why that should be? I
> haven't had the vehicle from new, bought it when 2 years old. No signs of
> any winch ever been fitted. (I checked before I bought it for any signs of
> serious off-roading.)
> --
> hugh
> I'm a human being not a human doing.
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

Alex · Dec 24, 2004

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:17:53 +0000, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>Went out this morning to start the motor.
>
>Chug.... chug.... chug....
>
>Battery almost flat. No time to do usual checks - earth strap,
>alternator voltage. Must have replacement as we're on standby because of
>weather forecast (Staffs Search & Rescue). Battery is 6 years old so
>it's a fair bet it's passed its use by date.
>
>Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock
>
>Aaaagh. Totally clueless albeit very pleasant YL on other end of phone.
>

Yes, now you know why I don't go into Halfords. I go to a local
battery supplier who specialises in batteries and electrical systems.
I wander in , point under the bonnet and say "I'd like the biggest
battery you've got that will fit in there" and within 10 minutes I'm
driving away with a nice large battery at 1/2 of what Halfords would
charge anyway.

Oh, for those that are interested, if you entend the length of a
series II/III battery tray by 2" you can get a Type 664 to fit snugly,
which should be more than enough for most requirements.

Alex

Lee_D · Dec 24, 2004

"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out this morning to start the motor.
>
> Chug.... chug.... chug....

I tend to have luck at Vantage tyres and Batteries. They actually interogate
me before selling me a battery rather than give a hard sell.

Also try North Staffs Tyres and Batteries, they don't have such a personal
service but have always had what I need in stock.

You better get it fixed quick, I'm on Nights for the next couple of days so
anything could happen! ;-)

Ho Ho HO!!!

Lee D

Richard Brookman · Dec 24, 2004

So hugh was, like

> In message <[email protected]>, AN6530
> <[email protected]> writes
>>> Subject: It would happen just b4 Xmas
>>> From: hugh hugh@[127.0.0.1]
>>> Date: 23/12/2004 18:17 GMT
>>
>> <snip>
>>> Ring Halfords to check if suitable replacement in stock
>> <hooge snip>
>>
>> Phone Halfords! Now that is where you went wrong ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve. Suffolk.
>> remove 'knujon' to e-mail
>>
> Yes I realised that after about 15 secs - but she did sound quite
> pleasant and when you are an old fart like me you can but dream

I got my present insurance mainly because of the lovely girl on the other
end of the phone - if I wasn't already spoken for I would have proposed
marriage there and then. Hell, she sounded sweet.

Oh yeah, and they were the cheapest too.

--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous

hugh · Dec 24, 2004

Thanks for all the replies. I will get around some of the local
specialist suppliers after the break - in the meantime battery charger
and extension lead are to hand and LR parked within easy reach of
garage.

Had a look in the handbook and it says
Battery........380/120/90
Any suggestions as to what that is about?
--
hugh
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AndyC the WB · Dec 24, 2004

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Brookman <[email protected]> writes:

Richard> spoken for I would have proposed marriage there and then.
Richard> Hell, she sounded sweet.

I remember one time some young lady sounded absolutely desirable on
the phone and I actually got to meet her a few weeks later.

Talk about a let down. Face like a sack of spanners, to coin a
phrase.

Andy

--
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only one point and were discovered by Euclid, who lived in the 6th
century, which was an era dominated by the Goths, who lived in what we
now know as Poland." - Unknown from Nov. 1998 issue of Infosystems
Executive.

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