Interesting article on remoulded tyres

Hi guys,

Came accross this article on Paddock's blog:

REMOULDS - THE ECO OPTION | Paddock Land Rover

Interesting article with some compelling facts. I'm all for recycling and less waste, because it's cheaper for us and a better use of finite resources. As long as I don't have to sacrifice on quality I'm happy. It looks like these tyres are pretty good, has anyone here tried them? For around £80 a corner you really can't argue.

I wasn't sure about remoulds - but this has shed some light on the process and it's quite convincing.

Thoughts ?

Will.

This will all change soon anyway...

Now the noise limits are coming in, certain tyre manufacturers are having to change the designs of mud terrains etc, to meet the lower dB limits!

There's an article about it in LRO this month...

Remoulds aren’t affected by European Union tyre legislation on noise and economy that has led to the development of less-aggressive tread patterns for new tyres, including the BF Goodrich mud-terrain.

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Not according to the article, I wonder why that is? But I really would be interested in hearing about experiences with these tyres as they sound very good.

Will.

they are not like the older type of remoulds, the ones that used to disintegrate and throw off lumps.

I saw the write up in LRO and it convinced me

I have Ziarellis for off roading. They're pretty good but very heavy and getting them off and on does my back in. The Jeeper had the same tyres but got rid of them after a week because he didn't like them (they made his Jeep impossible to steer).
I wouldn't buy them again. They don't last as long and I've had one explode on the motorway (not a very nice experience).

I know remoulds have come on in leaps and bounds but I'd still rather go for a Propper tyre if there's only £20 or £30 quid in it. For my main car al least!
I've seen tread thrown off. Stupidly uneven wear. Rapid wear. Blow outs. An off roader not so picky when it comes to real aggressive mud terrains cos you'll destroy them most likely any way

You would be surprised how many Transport operators use remould/recap tyres, the company I worked for only fitted new tyres to steering axles. Failure rates were extremely low and a considerable increase in mileage was gained using recaps with a harder tread. I can remember the cheapo remoulds that could be bought for your car in the sixties where you were lucky if you got 5,000 miles without the tread separating, fortunately those days are well behind us.

aaaaaaagh he mentioned Jeeeeeeeeeeeeep

Yep this is the Jeeper's Jeeeeeeep!

And by the way I am a she not a he and the Jeeper is my husband

Mandy said:

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Yep this is the Jeeper's Jeeeeeeep!

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Interesting signature strip Mandy.

Perfect for J**p drivers!

Mi piacciono le persone troppo pazzi.

Singvogel.

and the tyres on the Jeeeep are Coopers

I could be wrong but I think Boeing land 747s on remoulds and recuts. I know lots of people who know someone that has had problems with remould tyres but I dont know of anyone who had a problem with them, and I am going back to the mid 70s

derek1603 said:

I could be wrong but I think Boeing land 747s on remoulds and recuts. I know lots of people who know someone that has had problems with remould tyres but I dont know of anyone who had a problem with them, and I am going back to the mid 70s

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That's because your not old like me. I bought remoulds for many of my cars back in the sixties and even ran my old e type on them, 148mph on the m1 on remoulds, must have been barmy. I would say that the failure rate for the really cheap remoulds £5 per tyre was about 20 percent mainly due to the use of 2nd and even 3rd life casings, nowadays this would be illegal.

Mmmm - 148mph on remoulds - scary what we used to do - my little dark green A35 van had retreads, and I used to go rallying my Escort Mexico on remould knobblies in the 70s.

Back on subject:

Yes - airlines and trucking companies use remoulded tyres, but.....

They normally send their own tyres to be remoulded and get their own tyres back with the new tread on them, so they know the history of the carcass. Those big tyres have individual ID numbers.

A typical truck tyre will have the tread re-cut then will be remoulded (or retreaded, which is now illegal for cars) and then re-cut again, so having 4 lives in all. The 3rd and 4th life will usually be on a trailer though. Also the tyres are designed with such treatments in mind - car and SUV tyres are not.

Britain and India are the world markets for refurbished car tyres - there is a higher percentage of remoulds sold in the UK than any other Western European country.

Brits seem to be very reluctant to spend money on 'quality' tyres, and often don't recognise the difference in performance. Some young folk will spend hundreds, nay thousand £s on wheels and then fit the cheapest tyres.

Ask any tyre fitter - or better still have a look at their discarded-tyre pile round the back - what a shocking state some folks run their tyres to before replacing them. Cords and plies showing are commonplace Scary to think that they could be overtaking you and your family any day, anywhere.

I'm happy enough to see that the Spanish company are promoting moistly off-road AT type tyres which all things being equal will not be used at high-speed on motorways for example.

Remoulds can be OK under certain circumstances and situations. You just need to recognize and be aware of their limitations.

I think on balance I'd feel most comfortable having a different set of wheels with remoulded MT's for off-roading.

For everyday road use I'd be buying new premium brand tyres.

People in the UK need a nice alarming ad campaign about the dangers for crap tyres.

I visited the Bandag factory in West Auckland some years ago and was shown the complete process from when a used casing enters the factory then leaves as a recap tyre, most impressive. As you say Sinvogel most tyres are your original casings but there were times when casings had to be scrapped (mainly wide singles) so you had no option but to purchase someone else's processed tyre, if you were lucky enough to be able to get hold of them. All our remoulds came from the original tyre manufacturer and rarely were they are original casings. There was a time when we used to recut our own tyres (not used on steering axles) but so many cag handed fitters cut down to the cords, which prevented the casing from being reused, that this job was left to the contract tyre fitter.

Many people don't realise that good quality tyres not only mean improved safety but also lower fuel consumption. The most appropriate tyre and pressure to suit the terrain is fundamental; a permanent off road course is a good place to experiment with different tyre pressures (how low can you go?)

OT: checked my tyre pressure when I got to GB this summer and nearly had a heart attack until I realised that in GB you use a different unit of measurement than on the continent.