Information kept on DOT / MOT computer

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Dave R

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• Aug 17, 2006

• #1

Here's a question for you................. I aquired another Land Rover
today, series 3, mostly very tidy. I looked at buying it a few months
back as it has a barely used Warn 9000 on it,as I reckoned I could whip
the winch off for the RR and sell the series 3 on.
However, at the time he was asking too much for it and I didn't bother.
To cut a long story short he called to see me in work today, he had
brought the LR in for an MOT with his local VW dealer (next door) and
the DOT bigwigs were visiting and made an example of the poor truck!
Poor bugger only uses it a few times a year to tow his boat to and from
the boatyard, it doesn't even go in the water!
So, he has a long list of bits and bobs, some easy to fix, some a real
pain, the question is, when I take it back for an MOT, will the
computer system have kept a record of all the points that it failed on
?
I think that if it went back to a slightly more sypathetic MOT station,
it would have passed without worry!
Watcha think?

Dave

 

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NT

Guest

• Aug 17, 2006

• #2

Dave R wrote:
> Here's a question for you................. I aquired another Land Rover
> today, series 3, mostly very tidy. I looked at buying it a few months
> back as it has a barely used Warn 9000 on it,as I reckoned I could whip
> the winch off for the RR and sell the series 3 on.
> However, at the time he was asking too much for it and I didn't bother.
> To cut a long story short he called to see me in work today, he had
> brought the LR in for an MOT with his local VW dealer (next door) and
> the DOT bigwigs were visiting and made an example of the poor truck!
> Poor bugger only uses it a few times a year to tow his boat to and from
> the boatyard, it doesn't even go in the water!
> So, he has a long list of bits and bobs, some easy to fix, some a real
> pain, the question is, when I take it back for an MOT, will the
> computer system have kept a record of all the points that it failed on
> ?
> I think that if it went back to a slightly more sypathetic MOT station,
> it would have passed without worry!
> Watcha think?
>
> Dave

Once a test has been recorded on the MOT Computer system, the results
will stay there forever.

However, when presenting the vehicle for testing at a different test
station, they will not know what faults have been recorded previously.
They can only test the vehicle that is there in front of them.

Problems will result if anyone has need to call up the MOT test record
& finds that faults recorded at the first MOT are still present on the
vehicle, even though a pass has been issued by a second test station.

http://motforum.proboards44.com

 

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Tom

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #3

> > So, he has a long list of bits and bobs, some easy to fix, some a real
> > pain, the question is, when I take it back for an MOT, will the
> > computer system have kept a record of all the points that it failed on
> > ?

With the new computerised MOT's you can apparently even look up the
details of the fail yourself on the MOT website. There are destructions
on the bit of paper.
However it didnt work with the last MOT i had done, but it could be
because i tried it only a fw minutes after the test finished. Cant find
it now to try it again!

 

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Dave R

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #4

Tom wrote:
> > > So, he has a long list of bits and bobs, some easy to fix, some a real
> > > pain, the question is, when I take it back for an MOT, will the
> > > computer system have kept a record of all the points that it failed on
> > > ?
>
> With the new computerised MOT's you can apparently even look up the
> details of the fail yourself on the MOT website. There are destructions
> on the bit of paper.
> However it didnt work with the last MOT i had done, but it could be
> because i tried it only a fw minutes after the test finished. Cant find
> it now to try it again!

Mmmmmm, that's interesting. I had another look at the vehicle this
morning on the way into work after looking at the MOT fail sheet again
and it seems that it's failed on really odd things. There's a couple of
"excessive corrosion" points which actually seem to be bubbled up paint
and surface rust. A quick scrape down and a coat of paint and it should
be good as new. We'll see. Anyone want a good condition series 3, needs
work for MOT?

Dave

 

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Larry

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #5

Well I always go in for an MOT expecting there is work needing to be done,
there always is.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Dave R" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Tom wrote:
>
> Mmmmmm, that's interesting. I had another look at the vehicle this
> morning on the way into work after looking at the MOT fail sheet again
> and it seems that it's failed on really odd things. There's a couple of
> "excessive corrosion" points which actually seem to be bubbled up paint
> and surface rust. A quick scrape down and a coat of paint and it should
> be good as new. We'll see. Anyone want a good condition series 3, needs
> work for MOT?
>
> Dave
>

 

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[email protected]

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #6

Ahh, so that's it, you work up our sympathy for your MOT failure, let us all
molly-coddle you and assure you its not terminal and when you have us all
thinking it just needs an afternoon's work to tidy up you spring the
surprise that's it's up for grabs...no doubt at a vastly overpriced sum for
an MOT failure....
Personally i would take it back for a re-test to a different station, not
giving the first station another £40. There has been a few stations round
here that have had stern warnings due to the number of complaints about
trivial failures. The thinking of the public is that they are doing it just
for another £40 because they are always booked up for MOT's thus you cannot
return within the specified time for a free test!. The DVLA has a part on
their site about reducing the re-test fee, possibly in September due to
"consultation" with the public (read too many complaints).


anyway....How much?

Cheers
Wolfie

 

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Steve Taylor

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #7

[email protected] wrote:
The DVLA has a part on
> their site about reducing the re-test fee, possibly in September due to
> "consultation" with the public (read too many complaints).

Somehow an MOT station here is still doing free retests, on minor
failures at least.

Steve

 

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Paul - xxx

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #8

Steve Taylor came up with the following;:
> [email protected] wrote:
> The DVLA has a part on
>> their site about reducing the re-test fee, possibly in September due to
>> "consultation" with the public (read too many complaints).
>
> Somehow an MOT station here is still doing free retests, on minor
> failures at least.

Vehicles, AIUI, aren't allowed to leave the premises, so if the MOT station
fixes it, or you leave it with them to be fixed within a few days it's not
fully re-tested, but only tested on the failed parts.

AIUI there is also the opportunity that if you can do the work yourself
on-site, providing the station allow it, then again they can test the
previously failed components without undergoing a full re-test.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

 

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[email protected]

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #9

minor faults and returned within 24-48 hrs are usually free in most stations
but some of the ones round here are fully booked, making it impossible to
fit in a re-test thus incurring a full retest fee. This is what is causing
the backlash with the public

Wolfie

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #10

On or around 17 Aug 2006 15:04:49 -0700, "Dave R" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>To cut a long story short he called to see me in work today, he had
>brought the LR in for an MOT with his local VW dealer (next door) and
>the DOT bigwigs were visiting and made an example of the poor truck!

that's a bugger. they show up without warning, too, although I suspect
there's a grapevine between garages that says "they're in the area".

no way they'd have passed mine, then...

actually, not much wrong with it - but enough that I'd have had to take it
away, fix it and being it back.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio" (it is when I struggle to be
brief that I become obscure) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Ars Poetica, 25

 

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Austin Shackles

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #11

On or around 17 Aug 2006 16:33:26 -0700, "Tom" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>> > So, he has a long list of bits and bobs, some easy to fix, some a real
>> > pain, the question is, when I take it back for an MOT, will the
>> > computer system have kept a record of all the points that it failed on
>> > ?
>
>With the new computerised MOT's you can apparently even look up the
>details of the fail yourself on the MOT website. There are destructions
>on the bit of paper.
>However it didnt work with the last MOT i had done, but it could be
>because i tried it only a fw minutes after the test finished. Cant find
>it now to try it again!

it takes a while to propagate, I think.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Brevis esse laboro, Obscurus fio" (it is when I struggle to be
brief that I become obscure) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Ars Poetica, 25

 

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Dave R

Guest

• Aug 18, 2006

• #12

[email protected] wrote:
> Ahh, so that's it, you work up our sympathy for your MOT failure, let us all
> molly-coddle you and assure you its not terminal and when you have us all
> thinking it just needs an afternoon's work to tidy up you spring the
> surprise that's it's up for grabs...no doubt at a vastly overpriced sum for
> an MOT failure....
> Personally i would take it back for a re-test to a different station, not
> giving the first station another £40. There has been a few stations round
> here that have had stern warnings due to the number of complaints about
> trivial failures. The thinking of the public is that they are doing it just
> for another £40 because they are always booked up for MOT's thus you cannot
> return within the specified time for a free test!. The DVLA has a part on
> their site about reducing the re-test fee, possibly in September due to
> "consultation" with the public (read too many complaints).
>
>
> anyway....How much?
>
> Cheers
> Wolfie

Gawd knows, i think in reality I will have to whip the winch and get
rid of it sharpish before the other half finds out. Landy count is back
up to six now so will have to get rid! Mind you, it might blend in
amongst all the others.

I don't know how much series threes are going for these days, i'd like
to get it taxed and MOTed before I sell it though. If I could generate
enough extra cash to put the Warn 9000 off it with it then i'd be
chuffed, effectively i'd have a free winch and winch bumper, a 9000lb
warn should be enough for the the RR Tdi do you think??

Dave

P.S. I've just remembered that the local garage is in cahoots with an
MOT station and does pe-MOT checks very cheap, I feel a plan coming
on...........