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Tom Bennett

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As an avid lurker on this site, I'm picking up more knowkledge than I had
but I'd still appreciate some advice.

I bought a 1994 Disco last May and it's been great fun but it's cost me a
bob or two in repairs and I'd like to change for something a bit newer,
tidier and more reliable. I'm well happy with the Landrover marque and I'd
like to stay with it as our 2nd car. I've a budget of £5-8k and I've been
looking at the various Discos, but I've now seen a 1998 R-reg Range Rover,
2.5 DT, locally advertised in a small garage for £7,500. Usual 6 months
small garage warranty. Although it's got 109k on the clock, it drives well
and it looks very clean with a FSH. Cloth seats, manual transmission and no
sunroof, BTW.

I've no experience whatsoever of these cars and I've spent a fairly
confusing afternoon Googling on the web for info.

What, IYE, are the problems I need to look out for with this model, is there
a better source of info on the web and are there any particular websites
that are better than others for buying (and selling) used Land Rovers,
generally?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

- Tom
SW Essex.


 
well ebay.co.uk is certainly the biggest site for landys selling/buying.
right now there are 637 landys for sale including 44 range rovers.
and just like any auction you need to keep your wits about you.
 
Check www.rangerovers.net

All the info you will ever need on there, and there is not a
lot I can add to that info!

Only thing I would say it that the DT is a very basic model
so it will be pretty difficult to sell on later unless you
are prepared to give it away cheap. You'd be better off
looking around for a DSE, there are loads of them around at
the moment, and prices are good (for buyers!).

Matt.

Tom Bennett wrote:
> As an avid lurker on this site, I'm picking up more knowkledge than I had
> but I'd still appreciate some advice.
>
> I bought a 1994 Disco last May and it's been great fun but it's cost me a
> bob or two in repairs and I'd like to change for something a bit newer,
> tidier and more reliable. I'm well happy with the Landrover marque and I'd
> like to stay with it as our 2nd car. I've a budget of £5-8k and I've been
> looking at the various Discos, but I've now seen a 1998 R-reg Range Rover,
> 2.5 DT, locally advertised in a small garage for £7,500. Usual 6 months
> small garage warranty. Although it's got 109k on the clock, it drives well
> and it looks very clean with a FSH. Cloth seats, manual transmission and no
> sunroof, BTW.
>
> I've no experience whatsoever of these cars and I've spent a fairly
> confusing afternoon Googling on the web for info.
>
> What, IYE, are the problems I need to look out for with this model, is there
> a better source of info on the web and are there any particular websites
> that are better than others for buying (and selling) used Land Rovers,
> generally?
>
> Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
> - Tom
> SW Essex.
>
>

 

"Tom Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As an avid lurker on this site, I'm picking up more knowkledge than I had
> but I'd still appreciate some advice.
>
> I bought a 1994 Disco last May and it's been great fun but it's cost me a
> bob or two in repairs and I'd like to change for something a bit newer,
> tidier and more reliable. I'm well happy with the Landrover marque and
> I'd like to stay with it as our 2nd car. I've a budget of £5-8k and I've
> been looking at the various Discos, but I've now seen a 1998 R-reg Range
> Rover, 2.5 DT, locally advertised in a small garage for £7,500. Usual 6
> months small garage warranty. Although it's got 109k on the clock, it
> drives well and it looks very clean with a FSH. Cloth seats, manual
> transmission and no sunroof, BTW.
>
> I've no experience whatsoever of these cars and I've spent a fairly
> confusing afternoon Googling on the web for info.
>
> What, IYE, are the problems I need to look out for with this model, is
> there a better source of info on the web and are there any particular
> websites that are better than others for buying (and selling) used Land
> Rovers, generally?
>
> Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
> - Tom
> SW Essex.


Personally, I wouldn't touch it. It will be gutless and you will more than
likely get various electrical and air suspension (if fitted) faults at that
age. If you like the disco, then upgrade to a newer one, possibly a Disco II
as they are now available at around £8k for a decent one. I bought a 2000
(X) 4.0 V8 (now on LPG!) XSi Auto early last year with a genuine 26.5k miles
on it, full history and a lot of dealer fitted extras for £10.5k!! You've
just got to search and be prepared to travel for the right one.
Oh, and a Disco II with ACE will out-corner a lumbering barge of a rangie
any day! ;-)
Badger.


 
> Personally, I wouldn't touch it. It will be gutless and you will more than
> likely get various electrical and air suspension (if fitted) faults at that
> age. If you like the disco, then upgrade to a newer one, possibly a Disco II
> as they are now available at around £8k for a decent one. I bought a 2000
> (X) 4.0 V8 (now on LPG!) XSi Auto early last year with a genuine 26.5k miles
> on it, full history and a lot of dealer fitted extras for £10.5k!! You've
> just got to search and be prepared to travel for the right one.
> Oh, and a Disco II with ACE will out-corner a lumbering barge of a rangie
> any day! ;-)
> Badger


He forgot to mention the fact that the Disco II is a paragon of
reliability, especially ones that are ACE equipped! :)

Matt

 

"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tom Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> As an avid lurker on this site, I'm picking up more knowkledge than I had
>> but I'd still appreciate some advice.
>>
>> I bought a 1994 Disco last May and it's been great fun but it's cost me a
>> bob or two in repairs and I'd like to change for something a bit newer,
>> tidier and more reliable. I'm well happy with the Landrover marque and
>> I'd like to stay with it as our 2nd car. I've a budget of £5-8k and I've
>> been looking at the various Discos, but I've now seen a 1998 R-reg Range
>> Rover, 2.5 DT, locally advertised in a small garage for £7,500. Usual 6
>> months small garage warranty. Although it's got 109k on the clock, it
>> drives well and it looks very clean with a FSH. Cloth seats, manual
>> transmission and no sunroof, BTW.
>>
>> I've no experience whatsoever of these cars and I've spent a fairly
>> confusing afternoon Googling on the web for info.
>>
>> What, IYE, are the problems I need to look out for with this model, is
>> there a better source of info on the web and are there any particular
>> websites that are better than others for buying (and selling) used Land
>> Rovers, generally?
>>
>> Any advice would be much appreciated.
>>
>> - Tom
>> SW Essex.

>
> Personally, I wouldn't touch it. It will be gutless and you will more than
> likely get various electrical and air suspension (if fitted) faults at
> that age. If you like the disco, then upgrade to a newer one, possibly a
> Disco II as they are now available at around £8k for a decent one. I
> bought a 2000 (X) 4.0 V8 (now on LPG!) XSi Auto early last year with a
> genuine 26.5k miles on it, full history and a lot of dealer fitted extras
> for £10.5k!! You've just got to search and be prepared to travel for the
> right one.
> Oh, and a Disco II with ACE will out-corner a lumbering barge of a rangie
> any day! ;-)
> Badger.
>

Don't listen to him. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about:
>air suspension (if fitted)

They ALL have air suspension!
Unless it's been removed & replaced with coils of course- in which case it's
prboably been given a thrashing offroad & should be left alone.
Yes you might have a few air suspension faults. Just allow for a new set of
air springs & compressor in your budget & you'll be right. These are no
longer the drama they once were- price wise that is. Can now be had for
around $100 in Aus. You can even upgrade them to Arnott air springs for not
much more-
http://www.rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/suspension/arnottgen3.html
Electronics are available on ebay and at breakers for cheap.
Valve blocks can be re-kitted for cheap.
Go on, get a great car instead of an ordinary one! That diesel will go for
ever...


 

"Natalie Drest" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Tom Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> As an avid lurker on this site, I'm picking up more knowkledge than I
>>> had but I'd still appreciate some advice.
>>>
>>> I bought a 1994 Disco last May and it's been great fun but it's cost me
>>> a bob or two in repairs and I'd like to change for something a bit
>>> newer, tidier and more reliable. I'm well happy with the Landrover
>>> marque and I'd like to stay with it as our 2nd car. I've a budget of
>>> £5-8k and I've been looking at the various Discos, but I've now seen a
>>> 1998 R-reg Range Rover, 2.5 DT, locally advertised in a small garage for
>>> £7,500. Usual 6 months small garage warranty. Although it's got 109k
>>> on the clock, it drives well and it looks very clean with a FSH. Cloth
>>> seats, manual transmission and no sunroof, BTW.
>>>
>>> I've no experience whatsoever of these cars and I've spent a fairly
>>> confusing afternoon Googling on the web for info.
>>>
>>> What, IYE, are the problems I need to look out for with this model, is
>>> there a better source of info on the web and are there any particular
>>> websites that are better than others for buying (and selling) used Land
>>> Rovers, generally?
>>>
>>> Any advice would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> - Tom
>>> SW Essex.

>>
>> Personally, I wouldn't touch it. It will be gutless and you will more
>> than likely get various electrical and air suspension (if fitted) faults
>> at that age. If you like the disco, then upgrade to a newer one, possibly
>> a Disco II as they are now available at around £8k for a decent one. I
>> bought a 2000 (X) 4.0 V8 (now on LPG!) XSi Auto early last year with a
>> genuine 26.5k miles on it, full history and a lot of dealer fitted extras
>> for £10.5k!! You've just got to search and be prepared to travel for the
>> right one.
>> Oh, and a Disco II with ACE will out-corner a lumbering barge of a rangie
>> any day! ;-)
>> Badger.
>>

> Don't listen to him. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about:
>>air suspension (if fitted)

> They ALL have air suspension!


I don't know what I'm talking about, eh? I am repairing these things almost
every other day in my workshop, I think that means that I have a fair idea.
Yet you go on to state the following....

> Unless it's been removed & replaced with coils of course-


Exactly what I meant! I am well aware that they all had air when leaving the
factory, but at the age of vehicle the OP is looking at, there's a high
probability of finding coils fitted.

> in which case it's prboably been given a thrashing offroad & should be
> left alone.
> Yes you might have a few air suspension faults. Just allow for a new set
> of air springs & compressor in your budget & you'll be right. These are no
> longer the drama they once were- price wise that is. Can now be had for
> around $100 in Aus. You can even upgrade them to Arnott air springs for
> not much more-


But why budget to spend money that you shouldn't have to, on something that
is inherrently unreliable and needs upgrading to make it reliable in the
first place, hence why so many have had their air suspension removed and
replaced with coils!

> http://www.rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/suspension/arnottgen3.html
> Electronics are available on ebay and at breakers for cheap.


And are mainly second-hand with no telling how long they will last! Biggest
issue is needing something like testbook to correctly diagnose, otherwise
you are almost certainly stabbing in the dark replacing parts until you fix
the fault, and P38's can have some really obscure electrical faults, I've
seen a lot.

> Valve blocks can be re-kitted for cheap.


That's as may be, but you shouldn't need to if it were a good system in the
first instance.

> Go on, get a great car instead of an ordinary one! That diesel will go for
> ever...


Until it overheats, then the head will be scrap more than likely. Seen a few
go that way in the last year or two. The 2.5 BMW engine is a great engine in
a BMW car, but it's not so hot in a rangie, IMO.
Badger.


 

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>> Personally, I wouldn't touch it. It will be gutless and you will more
>> than likely get various electrical and air suspension (if fitted) faults
>> at that age. If you like the disco, then upgrade to a newer one, possibly
>> a Disco II as they are now available at around £8k for a decent one. I
>> bought a 2000 (X) 4.0 V8 (now on LPG!) XSi Auto early last year with a
>> genuine 26.5k miles on it, full history and a lot of dealer fitted extras
>> for £10.5k!! You've just got to search and be prepared to travel for the
>> right one.
>> Oh, and a Disco II with ACE will out-corner a lumbering barge of a rangie
>> any day! ;-)
>> Badger

>
> He forgot to mention the fact that the Disco II is a paragon of
> reliability, especially ones that are ACE equipped! :)


Never had a single faulty Disco II through my workshop yet....... but an
awful lot of faulty P38's. That says enough in my book.
Badger.


 
First you tell me this in reply to my thread...

> Never had a single faulty Disco II through my workshop yet....... but
> an awful lot of faulty P38's. That says enough in my book.
> Badger.


and then...

> I don't know what I'm talking about, eh? I am repairing these things almost
> every other day in my workshop, I think that means that I have a fair idea.
> Yet you go on to state the following....


I thought you'd never had a faulty DII through your workshop???! :)

Matt.
 
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:09:36 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Maddock
<[email protected]> wrote:

>First you tell me this in reply to my thread...
>
> > Never had a single faulty Disco II through my workshop yet....... but
> > an awful lot of faulty P38's. That says enough in my book.
> > Badger.

>
>and then...
>
>> I don't know what I'm talking about, eh? I am repairing these things almost
>> every other day in my workshop, I think that means that I have a fair idea.
>> Yet you go on to state the following....

>
>I thought you'd never had a faulty DII through your workshop???! :)
>
>Matt.


Is it pick on Badger day?

I think "these things" means LR products in general, not DII.

I don't think anyone sensible will try to argue a P38 is a paragon of
reliability (but I am looking to buy one anyway, anyone got a nice
4.6HSE to sell for sensible money).

A mate DID buy a DII with a faulty compressor. Mind you it was a Y
plate 2001 and he payed approx £6500, so duff compressor was minor
irritation.

David
 
> Is it pick on Badger day?

I was only having a bit of fun :)

> I don't think anyone sensible will try to argue a P38 is a paragon of
> reliability.


I wasn't! I don't think anyone could say that of any Land Rover :)
But the impression was given was that the DII was flawless!

There are plenty of problems with it, the rear air suspension is
basically the same as the P38, ACE has it's own set of problems, and
the Td5 is certainly not the most reliable unit around. In general
though, it is bound to be more reliable than an older-design vehicle
(i.e. P38), that is just the way things generally are in the
automotive industry.

The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!
But it happily keeps up with modern traffic, and I've never had a
problem overtaking when I need to. Though I can't deny that it would by
nice to have the Td5 in there - much as I like BMW! However, given that
at the time the choice of diesel power for the P38 was either a 300Tdi
or the BMW engine, I'm glad they made the choice they did; something
that I think a lot of people seem to forget.

At end of the day, you buy what is suitable to you. I've had a couple
of Disco's in the past, but now my P38 is more suitable to how I use
my car, which is why I bought it!

Matt
 

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> First you tell me this in reply to my thread...
>
> > Never had a single faulty Disco II through my workshop yet....... but an
> > awful lot of faulty P38's. That says enough in my book.
> > Badger.

>
> and then...
>
>> I don't know what I'm talking about, eh? I am repairing these things
>> almost every other day in my workshop, I think that means that I have a
>> fair idea.
>> Yet you go on to state the following....

>
> I thought you'd never had a faulty DII through your workshop???! :)


"These things" as in P38's mate.
badger.


 

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>> Is it pick on Badger day?

>
> I was only having a bit of fun :)


I'll let you off then... ;-)

>> I don't think anyone sensible will try to argue a P38 is a paragon of
>> reliability.


You'd need to be insane, more like!

> I wasn't! I don't think anyone could say that of any Land Rover :)
> But the impression was given was that the DII was flawless!
>
> There are plenty of problems with it, the rear air suspension is
> basically the same as the P38, ACE has it's own set of problems, and
> the Td5 is certainly not the most reliable unit around. In general
> though, it is bound to be more reliable than an older-design vehicle
> (i.e. P38), that is just the way things generally are in the
> automotive industry.


Indeed, and I can only speak from personal experience. I own a DII and I've
yet to have one with a single fault through the workshop, whereas I see a
lot of P38's with electrical , ABS and air suspension faults. Things may
change with the DII as it gets older no doubt, but at this moment in time it
appears to be a better-sorted vehicle than the P38.

> The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
> be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!


Fair comment, but not every scooby driver is an idiot, and no, I don't own
one before you ask! :)

> But it happily keeps up with modern traffic, and I've never had a
> problem overtaking when I need to. Though I can't deny that it would by
> nice to have the Td5 in there - much as I like BMW! However, given that
> at the time the choice of diesel power for the P38 was either a 300Tdi
> or the BMW engine, I'm glad they made the choice they did; something
> that I think a lot of people seem to forget.


Pity the timing was all wrong re. the intro of the TD6 engine, now that is a
seriously good disiesel.

> At end of the day, you buy what is suitable to you. I've had a couple
> of Disco's in the past, but now my P38 is more suitable to how I use
> my car, which is why I bought it!


fair comment.

Badger.


 

"Badger" <(lots of headers snipped here)
>> You can even upgrade them to Arnott air springs for not much more-

>
> But why budget to spend money that you shouldn't have to, on something
> that is inherrently unreliable and needs upgrading to make it reliable in
> the first place, hence why so many have had their air suspension removed
> and replaced with coils!


The upgrade isn't for reliability- although they do fit tighter. It's for
ride quality. Check the link.
Air is not inherently unreliable. If it were, heavy trucks/buses wouldn't
use it.

>
>> http://www.rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/suspension/arnottgen3.html
>> Electronics are available on ebay and at breakers for cheap.

>
> And are mainly second-hand with no telling how long they will last!
> Biggest issue is needing something like testbook to correctly diagnose,
> otherwise you are almost certainly stabbing in the dark replacing parts
> until you fix the fault, and P38's can have some really obscure electrical
> faults, I've seen a lot.


Computer diagnosing isn't a step forward? Saves all that messy
trial-and-error business, as you point out.

>> Valve blocks can be re-kitted for cheap.

>
> That's as may be, but you shouldn't need to if it were a good system in
> the first instance.


Rubber perishes. Seals have to be replaced. Seems to be something around
7-10ish years for these particular valve blocks. Nothing to do with it being
not a 'good system'. Look at it as routine maintenance, same as replacement
of air springs. Don't forget you'll have to do similar with the D2 rear
suspension.

>> Go on, get a great car instead of an ordinary one!


My point is that since these things are now so cheap to purchase and that
because LR in their wisdom have seen fit to drop prices of parts from
Ridiculous to Reasonable (eg. compressors, air springs, AC fan motors), if
you are prepared to spend on upkeep you have a top car for a total of not
much. Remember what these things used to cost- you are getting a lot of car
for your dosh!

Point to Mr. Bennet:
If you're intending to take it offroad (& I hope you are), it might pay to
make sure the model you purchase has traction control in at least the rear
axle. A worthy inclusion IMHO.


 
In message <[email protected]>
"Badger" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> >> Is it pick on Badger day?

> >
> > I was only having a bit of fun :)

>
> I'll let you off then... ;-)
>
> >> I don't think anyone sensible will try to argue a P38 is a paragon of
> >> reliability.

>
> You'd need to be insane, more like!
>
> > I wasn't! I don't think anyone could say that of any Land Rover :)
> > But the impression was given was that the DII was flawless!
> >
> > There are plenty of problems with it, the rear air suspension is
> > basically the same as the P38, ACE has it's own set of problems, and
> > the Td5 is certainly not the most reliable unit around. In general
> > though, it is bound to be more reliable than an older-design vehicle
> > (i.e. P38), that is just the way things generally are in the
> > automotive industry.

>
> Indeed, and I can only speak from personal experience. I own a DII and I've
> yet to have one with a single fault through the workshop, whereas I see a
> lot of P38's with electrical , ABS and air suspension faults. Things may
> change with the DII as it gets older no doubt, but at this moment in time it
> appears to be a better-sorted vehicle than the P38.


I have to say Discovery II's are turning out to be nice little earners ;-)

>
> > The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
> > be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!


That's a moot point in these parts, to say the least!

>


<snip>

> Badger.
>
>


Richard

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"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>> Is it pick on Badger day?

>
> I was only having a bit of fun :)
>
>> I don't think anyone sensible will try to argue a P38 is a paragon of
>> reliability.

>
> I wasn't! I don't think anyone could say that of any Land Rover :)
> But the impression was given was that the DII was flawless!
>
> There are plenty of problems with it, the rear air suspension is
> basically the same as the P38, ACE has it's own set of problems, and
> the Td5 is certainly not the most reliable unit around. In general
> though, it is bound to be more reliable than an older-design vehicle
> (i.e. P38), that is just the way things generally are in the
> automotive industry.
>
> The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
> be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!
> But it happily keeps up with modern traffic, and I've never had a
> problem overtaking when I need to. Though I can't deny that it would by
> nice to have the Td5 in there - much as I like BMW! However, given that
> at the time the choice of diesel power for the P38 was either a 300Tdi
> or the BMW engine, I'm glad they made the choice they did; something
> that I think a lot of people seem to forget.
>
> At end of the day, you buy what is suitable to you. I've had a couple
> of Disco's in the past, but now my P38 is more suitable to how I use
> my car, which is why I bought it!
>
> Matt



 

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
> be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!
> But it happily keeps up with modern traffic, and I've never had a
> problem overtaking when I need to. Though I can't deny that it would by
> nice to have the Td5 in there - much as I like BMW! However, given that
> at the time the choice of diesel power for the P38 was either a 300Tdi
> or the BMW engine, I'm glad they made the choice they did; something
> that I think a lot of people seem to forget.


Now now! I drive both a HSE & a WRX Scooby & i'm not an idiot!

>
> At end of the day, you buy what is suitable to you. I've had a couple
> of Disco's in the past, but now my P38 is more suitable to how I use
> my car, which is why I bought it!
>
> Matt


Exactly, i love my RR mainly for the hatch arrangement. Nice workbench if
you need it out on site!

I was going to buy a DII but they are out of my price range & I think the
bodywork & chassis of the P38 seems to be well enough put together after 12
years i have only ever seen lower tailgates with a problem. The original
Disco had more than it's fair share of problems as did the RRC! It's
probably fair that given another 5 years the DII should, in the long run,
turn out to be more reliable than the P38.

I do like the P38 though, especially the V8 & the comfort factor. It could
do with better damping, especially at the front. Thats why I'm gonna buy
some gas dampers when funds permit.

Nige


 

>> The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
>> be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!

>
> Fair comment, but not every scooby driver is an idiot, and no, I don't own
> one before you ask! :)


Was going for the stereo-typical view! You've got to admit that (no
matter how "good" they are) they've gained a rather poor image. I can't
help but think "tosser" every time I see one. Sorry WRX owners - it's
nothing personal!

> Pity the timing was all wrong re. the intro of the TD6 engine, now that is a
> seriously good disiesel.


Yeah, although I've heard the [Jaguar developed?] TDV6 in the D3 is
better than the BMW TD6 in the RR.

Wonder if anyone has dropped a Td5 into a P38? Mine's done nearly
200k now - when it dies, it might be fun to try!

Matt.
 

"Matthew Maddock" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>
>>> The 2.5 BMW unit is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to
>>> be, I didn't buy a Range Rover to burn-off idiots in their Scooby's!

>>
>> Fair comment, but not every scooby driver is an idiot, and no, I don't
>> own one before you ask! :)

>
> Was going for the stereo-typical view! You've got to admit that (no
> matter how "good" they are) they've gained a rather poor image. I can't
> help but think "tosser" every time I see one. Sorry WRX owners - it's
> nothing personal!
>


Not round here, they tend to be driven by older, motorsport enthusiasts.

Mind you, that's only the newer ones. Older ones are driven by some dodgy
looking yoofs with feckin' huge spoilers!

>> Pity the timing was all wrong re. the intro of the TD6 engine, now that
>> is a seriously good disiesel.

>
> Yeah, although I've heard the [Jaguar developed?] TDV6 in the D3 is
> better than the BMW TD6 in the RR.
>
> Wonder if anyone has dropped a Td5 into a P38? Mine's done nearly
> 200k now - when it dies, it might be fun to try!


I dont see why it couldn't be done!


 
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:23:04 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Maddock
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Personally, I wouldn't touch it. It will be gutless and you will more than
>> likely get various electrical and air suspension (if fitted) faults at that
>> age. If you like the disco, then upgrade to a newer one, possibly a Disco II
>> as they are now available at around £8k for a decent one. I bought a 2000
>> (X) 4.0 V8 (now on LPG!) XSi Auto early last year with a genuine 26.5k miles
>> on it, full history and a lot of dealer fitted extras for £10.5k!! You've
>> just got to search and be prepared to travel for the right one.
>> Oh, and a Disco II with ACE will out-corner a lumbering barge of a rangie
>> any day! ;-)
>> Badger

>
>He forgot to mention the fact that the Disco II is a paragon of
>reliability, especially ones that are ACE equipped! :)
>
>Matt

Hi,

Leaking ace valve block cost me £2000 to have repaired last year,
although I got a bit back by making a post warranty claim.

regards

nemo2
 
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