i think my discovery is dead

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>
> Gary, are you in West Norfolk by any chance?
> There's TJC between Swaffham and Fakenham or Overland at Methwold.
> TonyB
>


Hi Tony , yep I'm in west Norfolk, and it will soon be heading off to TJC's
to see what they say.

GGJ



 
In message <[email protected]>
"Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Folks
> Just driving home in the discovery tonight (300tdi 1995 auto) maintained
> regardless of cost.
> I even spent out on it yesterday, having new discs and pads fitted to the
> rear.
> Anyway, about 6 miles from home , already covered about 20 miles, I noticed
> a lack of acceleration while pulling out of a junction, hmmm ,strange I
> thought , took it nice and steady and then noticed a bit of smoke coming out
> the back looked to be grey in colour.
> I pulled over and had a quick look under the bonnet, nothing obvious so I
> carried on. The smoke out the back was now worse and the power was down even
> more.
> As I arrived outside the house I switched off but the engine kept on
> running. Worse than this it, decided that it was going to rev itself to hell
> and back ( I have never seen the rev meter go that far round before) and
> smoke out the entire street, that much smoke that a neighbour came over to
> see if I was OK and did I want them to call the fire brigade out.
> The discover has about 115000 miles on the clock now and like I say,
> since I have owned it for the last 35000 miles I have had everything checked
> ,serviced, and replaced when needed and sometimes just to be on the safe
> side.
> So my question is,
> 1)where do I start to look for the problem, does it sound to you folks like
> a head gasket problem.
> 2) if I to turn the key and start it up and it goes into super high rev
> mode even with the key out, how the hell do I stop it fast.
>
> I'm just going now to have a look at the coolant to see if its full of oil.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
> GGJ
>


I'll get a cup of tea your head gasket has gone (back LH corner
looking in from the front). If you have not used all the oil (it
would seem not if it starts doing it again!) then it is unlikely
there will be any further damage. If you *really* need to start
it again top up the oil first. To stop it, put the handbrake on
and the footbrake, stick it in 5th and let the clutch off - it
will stall easily. Allow a bit of space in case the hadbrake's not
100% - there's no need to go into trees etc.

This is a well know problem at the sort of milage you car is at,
and while being a bit scary don't panic! Bearing in mind the
possibility of having burned all the oil (that's what the vast
smoke cloud was), a new head gasket is all that will be required
- it most likely won't happen again.

Richard

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On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:47:57 +0100, beamendsltd wrote:

> To stop it, put the handbrake on and the footbrake, stick it in 5th and
> let the clutch off - it will stall easily.


Another who didn't read the OP properly. B-)

"(300tdi 1995 auto)".

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In message <[email protected]>
"Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:47:57 +0100, beamendsltd wrote:
>
> > To stop it, put the handbrake on and the footbrake, stick it in 5th and
> > let the clutch off - it will stall easily.

>
> Another who didn't read the OP properly. B-)


Stick it in Drive then, same difference....

>
> "(300tdi 1995 auto)".
>


Richard
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It is almost certainly a head gasket, my 200TDI did exactly the same, except
mine is a manual and I could stall it. Check the oil level, you will find
that it has drunk it all. Top it back up and try to start it, it will run
for a little while before it gets into a run-away state. The gasket will
have blown between a cylinder and an oil way. You may get away with just
replacing the gasket, but the head may need skimming.

Regards
Jeff


 
On or around Fri, 26 May 2006 10:35:40 +0100, beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> "Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:47:57 +0100, beamendsltd wrote:
>>
>> > To stop it, put the handbrake on and the footbrake, stick it in 5th and
>> > let the clutch off - it will stall easily.

>>
>> Another who didn't read the OP properly. B-)

>
>Stick it in Drive then, same difference....


erm... not on any auto I've ever had. converter stall at about 1800 on the
4HP22 in the earlier rangies. You *can* stall an auto, but not under those
conditions.
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"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Fri, 26 May 2006 10:35:40 +0100, beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>In message <[email protected]>
>> "Dave Liquorice" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:47:57 +0100, beamendsltd wrote:
>>>
>>> > To stop it, put the handbrake on and the footbrake, stick it in
>>> > 5th and
>>> > let the clutch off - it will stall easily.
>>>
>>> Another who didn't read the OP properly. B-)

>>
>>Stick it in Drive then, same difference....

>
> erm... not on any auto I've ever had. converter stall at about 1800
> on the
> 4HP22 in the earlier rangies. You *can* stall an auto, but not under
> those
> conditions.


Hmmm. That's when it's running with full rack on diesel: it would be
nice to think it might develop less torque on engine oil, delivered to
the cylinder in rather bigger drops than it's designed for. Even if
could hold 2000 rpm, might it just break the faster - more oil - faster
rather vicious spiral to on-display conrods? Things might get a bit
warm in the gearbox if it didn't work, I must admit.


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"Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > Gary, are you in West Norfolk by any chance?
> > There's TJC between Swaffham and Fakenham or Overland at Methwold.
> > TonyB
> >

>
> Hi Tony , yep I'm in west Norfolk, and it will soon be heading off to

TJC's
> to see what they say.



I can offer you a tow if you need one - I'm in the Methwold area.
TonyB


 

> I can offer you a tow if you need one - I'm in the Methwold area.
> TonyB
>


Hi Tony
Many thanks for your kind offer but the AA have done the deed
Cheers
Gary


 
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