Sport I said another Land Cruiser, she wants RR Sport

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Wazzajnr said:
From reading on here and other forums, my feeling is that the FFRR is a better documented vehicle as I think more enthusiasts have them than the sport.
In that respect I would go for the FFRR.
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I would agree and prefer the FFRR as opposed to the RRS.
I don't think she would take too much persuasion to go for "a real Range Rover"

Gra.
 
uk_vette said:
Even she knows that as far as reliability go"s, the Land Cruiser we has would take some beating.
But never the less, she has set her mind on a RRS. Or maybe even a normal full size Range Rover.
Looking at the dimensions, it appears the RRS is just 12 inches or so shorter than the normal Range Rover.
Widths and heights seem to be the same.

In my opinion, they both look good, and if it was me, I would be looking at either Range Rover.

Gra.
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As stated by @Wazzajnr , you'll find more on here who have practical experience of the L322. Therefore most of it's foibles have been discussed and explored, to find what level of spanner experience is needed to repair issues, thus in many cases saving owners money and , or , heartache.
The L320 is starting to show up more but has not been explored as deeply as the L322. Also the 'whole body shell off' issue is off putting to many who have commented on the L320.
So it is not a "stuck up point of view" as the heckler in the poor seats stated, but a matter of which would be easier for swmbo to get advice on, when the inevitable RR hissy fits start.
However, on a personal note, when I buy a vehicle I buy the best in the range I can afford and also the one that affords me the most comfort and ease of use. Which considering I am 6' tall, keep GSDs and horses , is not the L320.
 
gold rover said:
As stated by @Wazzajnr , you'll find more on here who have practical experience of the L322. Therefore most of it's foibles have been discussed and explored, to find what level of spanner experience is needed to repair issues, thus in many cases saving owners money and , or , heartache.
The L320 is starting to show up more but has not been explored as deeply as the L322. Also the 'whole body shell off' issue is off putting to many who have commented on the L320.
So it is not a "stuck up point of view" as the heckler in the poor seats stated, but a matter of which would be easier for swmbo to get advice on, when the inevitable RR hissy fits start.
However, on a personal note, when I buy a vehicle I buy the best in the range I can afford and also the one that affords me the most comfort and ease of use. Which considering I am 6' tall, keep GSDs and horses , is not the L320.
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I am of the same opinion.
The FFRR seems to be a more easier vehicle to work on, compared to the RRS.

Is it just the RRS that needs a body lift to get some jobs done, or does this also apply the the ormall full size Range Rover ?

What jobs on the RRS need to have the body lifted ? Seems a serious task !

Gra.
 
You'll have to wait for the folks with more knowledge than myself to answer which jobs but I can say , I've encountered most of the big jobs on the L322 with mine and the body has never needed to come off......................yet ;)
 
Wazzajnr said:
From reading on here and other forums, my feeling is that the FFRR is a better documented vehicle as I think more enthusiasts have them than the sport.
In that respect I would go for the FFRR.
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I don't think this is true. I think it's just a perception people have. L322's have been about longer anyway and arguably more affordable used for longer too. An RRS shares much with a D3 anyway. And an L322 that uses the Jaguar V8's or TDV8 engines run pretty much the same electronics and gearboxes as the RRS does anyway.
 
Many of the original body off jobs now seem to have a work-around to avoid - turbos, cam belts etc. I thought briefly about an RRS but got a D3 for more practical reasons.
PS, the RRS / D3 TDV6's have more power than FFRR TD6's.;)
Sadly, this site doesn't tend to draw in RRS / D3 owners so much but there is plenty of enthusiast sites out there.
 
300bhp/ton said:
I don't think this is true. I think it's just a perception people have. L322's have been about longer anyway and arguably more affordable used for longer too. An RRS shares much with a D3 anyway. And an L322 that uses the Jaguar V8's or TDV8 engines run pretty much the same electronics and gearboxes as the RRS does anyway.
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Many good points, thanks for your reply.

Gra.
 
For the mileage you are forecasting it's a no brainer, petrol. That's without exploring the possibly of LPG conversions.

Alas the modern mindset is fixated on diesel, but the petrol engine is king and being revisited by folks who've been otherwise hooked.

A complicated TDV6/8 is fine if you are minted, a gambler, or an ace spanner man, but for more refinement with much more pace and little harm differential in the pocket (or purse;)) you'd be mad to consider diesel.
I doubt many petrol RRS have need for body off jobs.

Btw, RRS L302 is a seperate chassis in which the body is bolted to, the RRFF L322 on the other hand is a monocoque unitary body, it's a widened, heightened and fattened BMW X5.

Get a RRS petrol and start the trend to fill these corridors with a new dimension, it's just a Dicovery 3/4 after all!!
 
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myfirstl322 said:
For the mileage you are forecasting it's a no brainer, petrol. That's without exploring the possibly of LPG conversions.

Alas the modern mindset is fixated on diesel, but the petrol engine is king and being revisited by folks who've been otherwise hooked.

A complicated TDV6/8 is fine if you are minted, a gambler, or an ace spanner man, but for more refinement with much more pace and little harm differential in the pocket (or purse;)) you'd be mad to consider diesel.
I doubt many petrol RRS have need for body off jobs.

Btw, RRS L302 is a seperate chassis in which the body is bolted to, the RRFF L322 on the other hand is a monocoque unitary body, it's a widened, heightened and fattened BMW X5.

Get a RRS petrol and start the trend to fill these corridors with a new dimension, it's just a Dicovery 3/4 after all!!
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Agree the petrol RRS or FFRR is the desired one.
We both have had diesels previously, and now we are both in petrol cars.

The midrange punch of diesels is nice, but the silky smooth return to petrol is quite some thing else.
Also I agree, the fuel consumption difference isn't massive for her, she does 10 miles a day to work and back, so essentially 50 miles for her work.

Gra.
 
martynv8 said:
Many of the original body off jobs now seem to have a work-around to avoid - turbos, cam belts etc. I thought briefly about an RRS but got a D3 for more practical reasons.
PS, the RRS / D3 TDV6's have more power than FFRR TD6's.;)
Sadly, this site doesn't tend to draw in RRS / D3 owners so much but there is plenty of enthusiast sites out there.
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With the age of RRS the OP is looking at he would be looking at the 3.6TDV8 / 4.4 V8 or possibly the yummiest of all 4.2 S/C V8 :p ;)
 
gold rover said:
With the age of RRS the OP is looking at he would be looking at the 3.6TDV8 / 4.4 V8 or possibly the yummiest of all 4.2 S/C V8 :p ;)
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OP said '06 to '08 (unless i'm missing something). So that would be 2.7 TDV6 if diesel.
Still, agree the 4.2SC is the one to go for IMO
 
I had a 1997 Land Cruiser - great vehicle. My wife managed to hit 3 of the 4 corners of the truck while parking. Too big. I traded it for an X5. My wife did not mangle any of the corners, but I got tired of it and traded it for an Lexus LX470. In 8 months my wife managed to mangle all four corners - way too big. The Lexus was traded in after 80k, a failed transmission and 4 mangled corners.

Just saying - the RR Sport is smaller.
 
kg74 said:
I had a 1997 Land Cruiser - great vehicle. My wife managed to hit 3 of the 4 corners of the truck while parking. Too big. I traded it for an X5. My wife did not mangle any of the corners, but I got tired of it and traded it for an Lexus LX470. In 8 months my wife managed to mangle all four corners - way too big. The Lexus was traded in after 80k, a failed transmission and 4 mangled corners.

Just saying - the RR Sport is smaller.
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I just have to say, have you ever thought of trading the current wife in for a new one that knows how to drive, or alternatively getting her, (current wife), a Fiat 500 or Mini, big "truck type 4x4's" do not make the best runabout vehicles.
In 43 years of marriage my wife has only managed to "ding" one of the many cars we have had, that was only the sill of our Triumph 2500 when she spun on a wet day on a diesel spill at an intersection, and that about 35 years ago.
Me on the other hand, well, no let's not go there.
 
I am completely happy with my wife - I know she cannot drive - but I assure you that is a fault I would accept any day. She is now in a 2016 XC90 with front and rear cameras, auto park, alarms and all the fixings. See what I mean, a little technology and I have a great wife. Once driver-less cars come, I will have a perfect wife.
 
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