How to add an 2 inch lift to a p38?

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Well that must be the case for an awful lot of off readers. It will still be used on the road - but only to get from one lane to another. It’s not a daily use or family car.
 
@Salisbury Nick

I have just read the whole thread. And actually like JMs suggestion as a start. I also thank you for not just going for the coil route as a first port of call.

If you do raise it remember it will be top heavy. Ask somebody that knows (not me:))

Countries have different laws don’t worry:)

J
 
Grrrrrr said:
Don't know about PetesP38 page but PaulsP38A webpage has advice on taking the EAS apart? http://paulp38a.com/range-rover-p38/how-eas-works/ Mind you, my memory is a bit shot.
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^^^ that’s the guy I think but not the page about lifting?? ; it’s my memory that’s shot.
Knew you’d know what I meant ;) and explains why I couldn’t find it :D


OP - it’s information for your decision - my advice is... dont do it! :eek: Or listen to JM

Even lifted the diff grounds, chunky tyres mean you can barge your way through when diff sticks in, slam panel will help it slide over rather than bite in. M/Ts that fit already and a panel won’t cost as much and make more difference than getting stuck 2” deeper IME.

If you do lift the EAS take plenty of pics for us :) it is something that interests me and I may end up doing myself in future if I win the lottery.
 
Thanks. I knew this would be a rich vein of good advice, including the ‘don’t do it’ variety. I already have a good set of 29” All Terrain tyres on it. To be honest I’m researching the idea, I have not 100% decided to do it, and she is so capable now that i do worry I’ll do more harm than good.
It was watching this video that really got me thinking;
 
Salisbury Nick said:
@tomcat59alan - well, so that I can fit bigger tyres ‘cos then it’ll look like a proper off roader.... then I need one of those “One Life...” banners, a snorkel, rock sliders, indicator protectors, diff guards.... what else? - Ooh, a winch obvs!

The current set up is factory standard except for some all terrain tyres - and it does really well. You turn up at event with lots of heavily modified Disco’s and Defenders and usually as the 1 single Rangey feeling a bit outgunned, and often viewed suspiciously by the others as the naive idiot who is going to slow down the group all day being towed up hills, out of rocky holes and ruts and deep ruts. Then they are amazed when the Ranger trundles up ridiculous routes that others are getting well stuck on. The problem occurrs when following a group of said modified cars and they carve deeper ruts than the unmodified RR can cope with and it then gets grounded on the diff’. So - need to raise the diff’ as that is the only weak point I have encountered so far.
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Ever thought of leading the pack? or would they be to embarrassed if they got stuck.;)
 
Salisbury Nick said:
Thanks. I knew this would be a rich vein of good advice, including the ‘don’t do it’ variety. I already have a good set of 29” All Terrain tyres on it. To be honest I’m researching the idea, I have not 100% decided to do it, and she is so capable now that i do worry I’ll do more harm than good.
It was watching this video that really got me thinking;
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I can't play with the big boys on this one, but the above video does make me think one thing. As the Sport is a D3 in disguise, did they not just lift a Disco, rather than a Range Rover?
Not sure it makes any difference, as I said , just a thought.
 
I have 32” M/Ts.
I don’t get stuck so don’t need an expensive winch. Had them part worn hence different types but cheap.
Think I payed bout £50 for the insa pair,
Coopers are smoother for the road. back doesn’t get bogged down but are also M/Ts. They ride like A/Ts on the road but have much bigger treads
Wearing out now but still plenty of tread and they are quieter than when new
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Lifted suspension was also sourced as pairs of bits for pennies, well used but decent. TF HD coils and shocks on back, don’t know what fronts are but they work and lifted it they were yellow.
As they are worn they’re not quite as high as when new, same goes for tires.
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One rear shock just went and had lasted few years of heavy abuse until I filled the boot with wet soil. Payed bout £40 for the rear shocks, springs and their hardware so I can’t complain :) the bottom thread/connector shearing off seems to be common for these shocks
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Good tyres.

Personally I can't stand lifted cars, something about them, kind of like the reverse of max Power magazine, remember them?

But instead of dropping it on its arse you're needlessly lifting it..

My stock RR was great offroad and my fields aren't that kind, Stock Dunlop air springs etc

I reiterate good tyres.
 
Henry_b said:
Good tyres.

Personally I can't stand lifted cars, something about them, kind of like the reverse of max Power magazine, remember them?

But instead of dropping it on its arse you're needlessly lifting it..

My stock RR was great offroad and my fields aren't that kind, Stock Dunlop air springs etc

I reiterate good tyres.
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Tyres make all the difference but if he's green laning a lot some of the routes are properly rutted. Once the diffs are grounded you're hanging in the air. TBH best go round those parts and fill in the ruts as it isn't nice for other users either.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Tyres make all the difference but if he's green laning a lot some of the routes are properly rutted. Once the diffs are grounded you're hanging in the air. TBH best go round those parts and fill in the ruts as it isn't nice for other users either.
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TBH there are people that drive within their cars means and ability.
And there are those that don't.

Personally on stock air springs a great amount of clearance is available at a flick of a switch..

And with good tyres most green lanes are negotiable, unless you're a complete prune and drive into a lake ;)
 
I would say if you are grounding the diff out, 1 get a diff guard and 2 choose a different route, carry a shovel and fill in deep ruts. greenlining should be done responsibly. if it is getting that rutted that a P38 is beaching on the diff, some responsibility by users needs to be taken. when you offroad you shouldn't be tearing up the lane and gouging . that's not aimed at you, obvs as you are the one being grounded.

Tread Lightly offers this for greenlining - "Always leave the countryside at least as good as you found it"

gov.uk offers this guide for greenlining

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/greenlaning-good-practice-guide
Understanding that our heritage of green lanes is a precious resource is essential. Overuse in wet weather can cause serious problems and users need to be aware that green lanes are not a place to go mud-plugging – there are ‘pay and play’ sites where you can test your vehicle to its limits.
 
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tomcat59alan said:
Ever thought of leading the pack? or would they be to embarrassed if they got stuck.;)
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That’s part of the fun, handling stuff with ease that some of the heavily modified cars get stuck on. The other drivers are often very surprised. Then I get stuck in a muddy rut and one of them has to tow me out
 
RangeRoller dt said:
I have 32” M/Ts.
I don’t get stuck so don’t need an expensive winch. Had them part worn hence different types but cheap.
Think I payed bout £50 for the insa pair,
Coopers are smoother for the road. back doesn’t get bogged down but are also M/Ts. They ride like A/Ts on the road but have much bigger treads
Wearing out now but still plenty of tread and they are quieter than when new
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Lifted suspension was also sourced as pairs of bits for pennies, well used but decent. TF HD coils and shocks on back, don’t know what fronts are but they work and lifted it they were yellow.
As they are worn they’re not quite as high as when new, same goes for tires.
View attachment 184708

One rear shock just went and had lasted few years of heavy abuse until I filled the boot with wet soil. Payed bout £40 for the rear shocks, springs and their hardware so I can’t complain :) the bottom thread/connector shearing off seems to be common for these shocks
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Nice. I’ll definitely be looking at used parts too. Great photos. Thanks. Interesting that you don’t get stuck with this set up.
 
Grrrrrr said:
Tyres make all the difference but if he's green laning a lot some of the routes are properly rutted. Once the diffs are grounded you're hanging in the air. TBH best go round those parts and fill in the ruts as it isn't nice for other users either.
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Nice idea filling in the ruts, but my local play ground is Salisbury plain and i can’t fill those ruts in, or Wales or Devon - all routes that I do with a group and rarely the same lanes twice.
 
Salisbury Nick said:
Nice idea filling in the ruts, but my local play ground is Salisbury plain and i can’t fill those ruts in, or Wales or Devon - all routes that I do with a group and rarely the same lanes twice.
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Bigger profile tyres will help but you'll have to adjust the bolts that stop the steering to stop it fouling the inner wings. You won't go much more than an inch I'd imagine before having to mod the offset and wings and then you'll be messing with the ride.

Still, getting stuck is half the fun. A TU16 Tirfor winch is a Godsend in the boot I've found.
 
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