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Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?

I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -


 


StaffBull wrote:
>
> Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?
>
> I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -


Heard and read about it.
They say it is a myth.
If not, anyone would use them.
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.


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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:24:14 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?
>
>I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -
>


There have been several discussions on the matter on the difflock
forum (www.difflock.com) in the Land Rover department, and I'm sure in
others too. Mosey on over and check it out.

Peter R.
 
In message <[email protected]>, StaffBull
<[email protected]> writes
>Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?
>
>I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -
>
>

Have had a couple fitted in various ways on a carbed 3.5 RR. Still
running tests but the initial results indicated significantly better
emission figures. You must be aware that this was with no form of
emission feedback or control (oxygen sensor etc).
However this result may not turn out better mpg figures for various
reasons. It'll be a month or so before I finalise results then I'll post
them here.

Personally speaking, and from my limited experience, I'd suggest 20%
economy would only be down to having a terrible problem before they were
fitted and correcting it afterwards!

--
AndyG
 
I've got a nice Harbour Bridge in Sydney that I'd like to sell if you think
that Hiclones are worthwhile.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?
>
> I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -
>
>



 
But looking at the previous post - emissions were down which would suggest
better burning of the available fuel.


"The Becketts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've got a nice Harbour Bridge in Sydney that I'd like to sell if you
> think
> that Hiclones are worthwhile.
>
> Ron Beckett
> Emu Plains, Australia
> 1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8
>
>
> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?
>>
>> I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -
>>
>>

>
>



 
The Becketts wrote:
> I've got a nice Harbour Bridge in Sydney that I'd like to sell if you think
> that Hiclones are worthwhile.


If you get significant interest in your bridge I've got another one here
in Auckland that's available for the right price too!


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EMB
 

"EMB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Becketts wrote:
> > I've got a nice Harbour Bridge in Sydney that I'd like to sell if you

think
> > that Hiclones are worthwhile.

>
> If you get significant interest in your bridge I've got another one here
> in Auckland that's available for the right price too!



Can you arrange shipping?


 
Mr Jolly wrote:

> Can you arrange shipping?


If you forward me the sum of GBP15,000,000 for shipping disbursements
I'm sure we can make arrangements. :)


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EMB
 
EMB wrote:

> If you forward me the sum of GBP15,000,000 for shipping disbursements
> I'm sure we can make arrangements. :)
>
>

Via you old mates in Nigeria ?

Steve
 
In message <[email protected]>, Mr. Nice.
<markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> writes
>From page 106 or LRM April 2004.
>The theory is that the drawn air swirls thereby moving more
>efficiently. There is a 2 page article about it being fitted to a Tdi
>Defender with an intercooler. 2 were fitted, one in the air cleaner
>hose to the turbo and a smaller one in the intercooler pipe.
>
>My scanner is duff at the moment so I can't scan it for you but if
>there is any info you want from it let me know. There is no report on
>any difference it may have made other than "felt that the engine felt a
>little smoother and, on the road, there definatly seemed to be more
>torque with the hiclones than there had been before".

And that was as far as it went ...
When I got my sets free for review, I specified that what I said was
going to be the whole truth, good or bad, and not subjective. This was
accepted by the supplier, as it obviously should have been if he had
confidence in his product.
Anybody who has equipment supplied and fitted then writes such a
pointless review (a double page IIRC) needs shooting. There were no
factual results, just extensive details of a two minute job sticking a
thing into a pipe and then statement you quote. Such articles should be
forced to have a banner headline 'Advertorial'.
Sorry, I'm ranting again ... perhaps it's this bleedin' flu but I hate
crap articles!!!

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AndyG
 
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:19:27 +0000, AJG <[email protected]> wrote:

>In message <[email protected]>, Mr. Nice.
><markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> writes
>>From page 106 or LRM April 2004.
>>The theory is that the drawn air swirls thereby moving more
>>efficiently. There is a 2 page article about it being fitted to a Tdi
>>Defender with an intercooler. 2 were fitted, one in the air cleaner
>>hose to the turbo and a smaller one in the intercooler pipe.
>>
>>My scanner is duff at the moment so I can't scan it for you but if
>>there is any info you want from it let me know. There is no report on
>>any difference it may have made other than "felt that the engine felt a
>>little smoother and, on the road, there definatly seemed to be more
>>torque with the hiclones than there had been before".

>And that was as far as it went ...
>When I got my sets free for review, I specified that what I said was
>going to be the whole truth, good or bad, and not subjective. This was
>accepted by the supplier, as it obviously should have been if he had
>confidence in his product.
>Anybody who has equipment supplied and fitted then writes such a
>pointless review (a double page IIRC) needs shooting. There were no
>factual results, just extensive details of a two minute job sticking a
>thing into a pipe and then statement you quote. Such articles should be
>forced to have a banner headline 'Advertorial'.
>Sorry, I'm ranting again ... perhaps it's this bleedin' flu but I hate
>crap articles!!!


When I read it I thought it rather smacked of a reviewer getting good
revenue from an advertiser. Rather than risk finding out it's a load
of bollocks (which all common sense would suggest) and having to
report such, they decided that they would describe in detail how to
remove a jubilee clip and stuff a piece of metal in a pipe, then say
something pointless and generic like 'it definitely felt more
torquey'.

I've always been certain that my cars have been smoother, faster and
generally 'better' after any kind of service. If you came and took a
few hundred quid off me for inserting the gizzards of an Amazonian
cockerel into my glovebox I'm sure I'd notice a big improvement in
acceleration and 'torqueyness'. The only other option would be to
admit I was a total tit who'd been had.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
I once read a magazine article about a man who got a lift to work with a
friend because his local BMW garage were picking up his car to service it.
When he got home his car was clean, polished and waiting in his driveway.
The man nipped into his house got the keys and drove off with his friend.
The man commented on how much smoother and more responsive it felt after
the service, as it always did. When he returned home there was a message on
his answerphone from the BMW garage apologising for not being able to fit
his car in for a service, but they valeted it anyway and would he like to
arrange an alternative appointment!!!!!!

I don't trust people when they say that a small alteration produces
noticable effects on torque/power/noise etc. I, like most people like to see
article/reports backed up with hard facts and figures to support them.

Stew.

--

1990 LR Ninety 2.5D N/A (Jasmine) with bits on!
2002 Freelander Td4 ES (crap wish I'd never bought, going to p/ex for a
Disco!))


"AJG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Mr. Nice.
> <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> writes
>>From page 106 or LRM April 2004.
>>The theory is that the drawn air swirls thereby moving more efficiently.
>>There is a 2 page article about it being fitted to a Tdi Defender with an
>>intercooler. 2 were fitted, one in the air cleaner hose to the turbo and a
>>smaller one in the intercooler pipe.
>>
>>My scanner is duff at the moment so I can't scan it for you but if there
>>is any info you want from it let me know. There is no report on any
>>difference it may have made other than "felt that the engine felt a little
>>smoother and, on the road, there definatly seemed to be more torque with
>>the hiclones than there had been before".

> And that was as far as it went ...
> When I got my sets free for review, I specified that what I said was going
> to be the whole truth, good or bad, and not subjective. This was accepted
> by the supplier, as it obviously should have been if he had confidence in
> his product.
> Anybody who has equipment supplied and fitted then writes such a pointless
> review (a double page IIRC) needs shooting. There were no factual results,
> just extensive details of a two minute job sticking a thing into a pipe
> and then statement you quote. Such articles should be forced to have a
> banner headline 'Advertorial'.
> Sorry, I'm ranting again ... perhaps it's this bleedin' flu but I hate
> crap articles!!!
>
> --
> AndyG



 
Do Halfords stock these?

"inserting the gizzards of an Amazonian cockerel into my glovebox"

Sounds like a cheap upgrade :)



 
More likely to stock them than most useful service items!!!!!

--

1990 LR Ninety 2.5D N/A (Jasmine) with bits on!
2002 Freelander Td4 ES (crap wish I'd never bought, going to p/ex for a
Disco!))


"Egon Spengler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do Halfords stock these?
>
> "inserting the gizzards of an Amazonian cockerel into my glovebox"
>
> Sounds like a cheap upgrade :)
>
>
>



 
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:43 +0000, Mr.Nice.
<markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:25 -0000, "Egon Spengler" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Do Halfords stock these?
>>
>>"inserting the gizzards of an Amazonian cockerel into my glovebox"
>>
>>Sounds like a cheap upgrade :)

>
>Does it have to be an Amazonian Cockerel? and will it work in a cubby
>box as well as a glovebox?
>
>
>Regards.
>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)


You _can_ use an Argentinian pigeon, but they tend to give a more
peaky power delivery and a slightly lumpy tickover. OK for race use,
but for normal road use I'd suggest paying the extra for an Amazonian
cockerel. YMMV.

The cubby box is ideal - the glovebox is obviously off-centre and thus
a slight 'torque steer' effect is inevitable.

Halfords stock cheap imitation cockerels made out of aluminium alloy.
They are actually heavier than normal cockerels, although they do emit
a slight blue glow to make you look like a nobhead.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
What's the effect of using a puffin - bloody loads on Anglesey - i could
make a fortune on Ebay !!!!
"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:43 +0000, Mr.Nice.
> <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:46:25 -0000, "Egon Spengler" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Do Halfords stock these?
>>>
>>>"inserting the gizzards of an Amazonian cockerel into my glovebox"
>>>
>>>Sounds like a cheap upgrade :)

>>
>>Does it have to be an Amazonian Cockerel? and will it work in a cubby
>>box as well as a glovebox?
>>
>>
>>Regards.
>>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

>
> You _can_ use an Argentinian pigeon, but they tend to give a more
> peaky power delivery and a slightly lumpy tickover. OK for race use,
> but for normal road use I'd suggest paying the extra for an Amazonian
> cockerel. YMMV.
>
> The cubby box is ideal - the glovebox is obviously off-centre and thus
> a slight 'torque steer' effect is inevitable.
>
> Halfords stock cheap imitation cockerels made out of aluminium alloy.
> They are actually heavier than normal cockerels, although they do emit
> a slight blue glow to make you look like a nobhead.
>
>
> --
>
> Tim Hobbs
>
> '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
> '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
> '03 Volvo V70
>
> My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
> Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
> Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com



 
And the inlet manifold, etc, doesn't eff the whole thing up again. Dear, oh,
dear!

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
Mobile (within Australia) 0415 286 921 or (international) +61 415 286 921
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Mr.Nice." <markvarleyphoto@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:24:14 -0000, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Anybody got on of these ? does it work ?
> >
> >I have seen claims of 20% economy on LPG off the 3.9 V8 -

>
> From page 106 or LRM April 2004.
> The theory is that the drawn air swirls thereby moving more
> efficiently. There is a 2 page article about it being fitted to a Tdi
> Defender with an intercooler. 2 were fitted, one in the air cleaner
> hose to the turbo and a smaller one in the intercooler pipe.
>
> My scanner is duff at the moment so I can't scan it for you but if
> there is any info you want from it let me know. There is no report on
> any difference it may have made other than "felt that the engine felt
> a little smoother and, on the road, there definatly seemed to be more
> torque with the hiclones than there had been before".
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
> --
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Not at all, Tim, a tit is a totally different bird to an Amazonian cockerel.

Besides, it is well known that sellers of Amazonian cokerel gizzards have been
ripping off the unsuspecting public for years.

I can assure you that the Australian emu gizzards are far more potent - after
all, the emu is much bigger. I can supply said emu gizzards for far less than
you paid for a lowly Amazonian cockerel gizzard..

Please send your bank account details and I'll arrange shipment.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Tim Hobbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:19:27 +0000, AJG <[email protected]> wrote:


> I've always been certain that my cars have been smoother, faster and
> generally 'better' after any kind of service. If you came and took a
> few hundred quid off me for inserting the gizzards of an Amazonian
> cockerel into my glovebox I'm sure I'd notice a big improvement in
> acceleration and 'torqueyness'. The only other option would be to
> admit I was a total tit who'd been had.



 
Bugger, he guessed!

--
Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Steve Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> EMB wrote:
>
> > If you forward me the sum of GBP15,000,000 for shipping disbursements
> > I'm sure we can make arrangements. :)
> >
> >

> Via you old mates in Nigeria ?
>
> Steve



 
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