HELP ME PLEASE!!

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the ickys

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #1

I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading. It
overheated whilst waiting for recovery (I didn't want to switch it off as my
starter had packed in earlier) and engine was completely submerged in
sludge. Subsequent diagnosis was it dropped a hot-spot in number 3
cylinder. Engine locked up, bent push rods and valves

I've had the head reconditioned.
I've fit new push rods.
I've fit new piston rings.
I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.

Before this disaster it was running sweet as a nut - unbelievably well, in
fact.

Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is overheating
after a very short run.

Can anybody suggest anything that may be causing this.

Yours, desperately,
Icky.

 

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A.Lee

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #2

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:04:40 +0000, the ickys wrote:

> I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading.
> I've had the head reconditioned.
> I've fit new push rods.
> I've fit new piston rings.
> I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.
> Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is overheating
> after a very short run.
> Can anybody suggest anything that may be causing this.

Worn pistons and/or worn bores are likely.
Is the new head of known quality?
Alan.
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Alex

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #3

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:04:40 GMT, "the ickys"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading. It
>overheated whilst waiting for recovery (I didn't want to switch it off as my
>starter had packed in earlier) and engine was completely submerged in
>sludge. Subsequent diagnosis was it dropped a hot-spot in number 3
>cylinder. Engine locked up, bent push rods and valves
>
>I've had the head reconditioned.
>I've fit new push rods.
>I've fit new piston rings.
>I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.
>
>Before this disaster it was running sweet as a nut - unbelievably well, in
>fact.
>
>Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is overheating
>after a very short run.
>
>Can anybody suggest anything that may be causing this.
>

You need a rebore, oversize pistons & rings.

This is why people tend to junk them after they've had that kind of
abuse, they're never quite the same again.

Alex

 

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PDannyD

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #4

"the ickys" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading.
> It overheated whilst waiting for recovery (I didn't want to switch it
> off as my starter had packed in earlier) and engine was completely
> submerged in sludge. Subsequent diagnosis was it dropped a hot-spot
> in number 3 cylinder. Engine locked up, bent push rods and valves
>
> I've had the head reconditioned.
> I've fit new push rods.
> I've fit new piston rings.
> I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.
>
> Before this disaster it was running sweet as a nut - unbelievably
> well, in fact.
>
> Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is
> overheating after a very short run.

Sounds like timing is way out to me.

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Tom Woods

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #5

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:43:40 +0100, "PDannyD"
<dan1970.nomeatproductsplease@nocannedmeat.scenicplace.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

>"the ickys" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading.
>> It overheated whilst waiting for recovery (I didn't want to switch it
>> off as my starter had packed in earlier) and engine was completely
>> submerged in sludge. Subsequent diagnosis was it dropped a hot-spot
>> in number 3 cylinder. Engine locked up, bent push rods and valves
>>
>> I've had the head reconditioned.
>> I've fit new push rods.
>> I've fit new piston rings.
>> I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.
>>
>> Before this disaster it was running sweet as a nut - unbelievably
>> well, in fact.
>>
>> Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is
>> overheating after a very short run.
>
>Sounds like timing is way out to me.

Does the TD have a timing belt like the 2.5N/A? Are you sure that the
belt didnt get damaged when the engine locked up?.
You could take the cover off and check that everything lines up
properly.

Did you do anything to the injectors while they were out?. I had one
of the injectors on my 2.5N/A get stuck open and it made it smoke lots
and run very badly (I thought the belt had jumped). I'm guessing, but
a dodgy injector could possibly cause running problems

 

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Sean Ryan

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #6

Possibly even a bent con rod. Bit of a waste of time sorting this type
of damage out without thoroughly checking everything. Sometimes you
can get lucky with sorting the top end out but I would have replaced
the engine.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5D
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

 

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Sean Ryan

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• Jul 24, 2004

• #7

Apologies, just re-read post properly, assume con rods would have been
checked. Timing would be the first thing to check.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5D
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

 

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Sean Ryan

Guest

• Jul 24, 2004

• #8

Possibly even a bent con rod. Bit of a waste of time sorting this type
of damage out without thoroughly checking everything. Sometimes you
can get lucky with sorting the top end out but I would have replaced
the engine.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5D
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

 

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Alex

Guest

• Jul 24, 2004

• #9

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:04:40 GMT, "the ickys"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading. It
>overheated whilst waiting for recovery (I didn't want to switch it off as my
>starter had packed in earlier) and engine was completely submerged in
>sludge. Subsequent diagnosis was it dropped a hot-spot in number 3
>cylinder. Engine locked up, bent push rods and valves
>
>I've had the head reconditioned.
>I've fit new push rods.
>I've fit new piston rings.
>I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.
>
>Before this disaster it was running sweet as a nut - unbelievably well, in
>fact.
>
>Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is overheating
>after a very short run.
>
>Can anybody suggest anything that may be causing this.
>

You need a rebore, oversize pistons & rings.

This is why people tend to junk them after they've had that kind of
abuse, they're never quite the same again.

Alex

 

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Tom Woods

Guest

• Jul 24, 2004

• #10

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:43:40 +0100, "PDannyD"
<dan1970.nomeatproductsplease@nocannedmeat.scenicplace.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

>"the ickys" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> I recently knackered my engine (2.5TD) doing a spot of off-roading.
>> It overheated whilst waiting for recovery (I didn't want to switch it
>> off as my starter had packed in earlier) and engine was completely
>> submerged in sludge. Subsequent diagnosis was it dropped a hot-spot
>> in number 3 cylinder. Engine locked up, bent push rods and valves
>>
>> I've had the head reconditioned.
>> I've fit new push rods.
>> I've fit new piston rings.
>> I've had the crank ground & fit under-sized shells to match.
>>
>> Before this disaster it was running sweet as a nut - unbelievably
>> well, in fact.
>>
>> Now, the bl@@dy thing smokes like a chimney, knocks, and is
>> overheating after a very short run.
>
>Sounds like timing is way out to me.

Does the TD have a timing belt like the 2.5N/A? Are you sure that the
belt didnt get damaged when the engine locked up?.
You could take the cover off and check that everything lines up
properly.

Did you do anything to the injectors while they were out?. I had one
of the injectors on my 2.5N/A get stuck open and it made it smoke lots
and run very badly (I thought the belt had jumped). I'm guessing, but
a dodgy injector could possibly cause running problems

 

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Sean Ryan

Guest

• Jul 24, 2004

• #11

Apologies, just re-read post properly, assume con rods would have been
checked. Timing would be the first thing to check.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5D
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net