Greece Ball Rally 07 recap!!

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On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 18:43:56 +0100, "Nige"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Lee_D wrote:
>> Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>> funny about:
>>> Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>>
>>>> If we were to tag along it would have to be 2nd half of summer hols,
>>>> if only to save up the cash for diesel!
>>
>> .... thers more
>>
>> Assuming 28 - 30 mpg fuel at .98 litre £125 for the trip across France,
>> Switzreland and Italy so you need to add the UK bit and Greece (who knows!)
>> but I would say double the above (for return) then double it again and it
>> will be not far off the mark so ball park £500 but this is DIESEL.... LPG
>> and Petrol would obviously be a different calc.
>>
>> If we do the later half of the summer I can do around 3 weeks which would
>> mean an opportunity to sight see Switzerland and Venice on route for a day
>> or two (inc return). Would be otter though so suncream essential.
>>
>> Lee
>
>
>3 weeks!!! No chance for us!! 2 would be good enough!
>

2 sounds good. 's like the thing I want to do, hire a canal boat and do the
leeds-liverpool. You *could* do it in a week, but it becomes rather more of
a challenge than a holiday. 3 weeks off is likeky to result in more hassle
from other sources for most of us, though.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
 
On or around Sat, 20 May 2006 00:14:50 +0100, Steve
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Lee_D wrote:
>> Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>> funny about:
>>> Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>>
>>>> If we were to tag along it would have to be 2nd half of summer hols,
>>>> if only to save up the cash for diesel!
>>
>> .... thers more
>>
>> Assuming 28 - 30 mpg fuel at .98 litre £125 for the trip across France,
>> Switzreland and Italy so you need to add the UK bit and Greece (who knows!)
>> but I would say double the above (for return) then double it again and it
>> will be not far off the mark so ball park £500 but this is DIESEL.... LPG
>> and Petrol would obviously be a different calc.
>
>What are we going to do when we get there, or is the journey to be the
>reward ?

I think The Journey is the thing, on this kind of stuff. Trick is to get
the overall pace right so that you can spend half a day here and there
looking at things that look interesting.

I'd love to do overland to India, one day, but I gather it's not very easy
these days, compared with the 60s.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
 
On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:45:19 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Steve Lizzy I know on the last thread I think Lizzy expressed a preference
>for Easter but what do you reckon to the Summer 'ols. 2 weeks towards the
>end would do fine. Would make it less stressed and rushed to get off /
>packed for most of us I reckon.
>
>T'also gives you some contingency time for the Ambi and running is time too
>whaddayay think? May be hotter but I'm sure Martyn may be able to show you a
>'ickle trick he has up his sleeve for toasty 101's.
>
>If we aim for being back before Sept 07 then we'd be sure to get in as many
>peeps as poss ref the school holidays due to slightly differing restart
>times in Sept.

I'm up for the trip - but have no chance of the easter hols. I have
always worked over atleast 1 week of them.

Summer hols are possible - but since i've not managed to attend any of
the unnofficial stuff yet then my attendance record aint very good!

next summer however is a long way off and the ambi has to be ready by
then.
TBH, if i dont have it ready by the end of this summer i shall have to
do some restructuring and it will definately be ready by the year
after!

 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 18:39:22 +0100, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Lee_D wrote:
>>> Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>>> funny about:
>>>> Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>>>
>>>>> If we were to tag along it would have to be 2nd half of summer hols,
>>>>> if only to save up the cash for diesel!
>>>
>>> .... thers more
>>>
>>> Assuming 28 - 30 mpg fuel at .98 litre £125 for the trip across France,
>>> Switzreland and Italy so you need to add the UK bit and Greece (who knows!)
>>> but I would say double the above (for return) then double it again and it
>>> will be not far off the mark so ball park £500 but this is DIESEL.... LPG
>>> and Petrol would obviously be a different calc.
>>>
>>> If we do the later half of the summer I can do around 3 weeks which would
>>> mean an opportunity to sight see Switzerland and Venice on route for a day
>>> or two (inc return). Would be otter though so suncream essential.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>> Diesel in France was around a Euro a litre not long back.
>>
>> We would probably buy a crarvan & sell it when we get home. They hold value well
>> enough & I'm not able to borrow anything other than a 2 berth! Could be tight!
>>
>> My fuel bill would be around £1000 for the Rangie! towing!!
>>
>
> travelling steadily I reckon Edward II gets almost 20 to the gallon, but
> there are a heck of a lot of 20s between here and Greece.


I reckon sommething similar with a caravan on the back, maybe a bit less!!!

Nige


--

Subaru WRX
Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!


 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 19 May 2006 18:43:56 +0100, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Lee_D wrote:
>>> Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>>> funny about:
>>>> Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>>>
>>>>> If we were to tag along it would have to be 2nd half of summer hols,
>>>>> if only to save up the cash for diesel!
>>>
>>> .... thers more
>>>
>>> Assuming 28 - 30 mpg fuel at .98 litre £125 for the trip across France,
>>> Switzreland and Italy so you need to add the UK bit and Greece (who knows!)
>>> but I would say double the above (for return) then double it again and it
>>> will be not far off the mark so ball park £500 but this is DIESEL.... LPG
>>> and Petrol would obviously be a different calc.
>>>
>>> If we do the later half of the summer I can do around 3 weeks which would
>>> mean an opportunity to sight see Switzerland and Venice on route for a day
>>> or two (inc return). Would be otter though so suncream essential.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>>
>> 3 weeks!!! No chance for us!! 2 would be good enough!
>>
>
> 2 sounds good. 's like the thing I want to do, hire a canal boat and do the
> leeds-liverpool. You *could* do it in a week, but it becomes rather more of
> a challenge than a holiday. 3 weeks off is likeky to result in more hassle
> from other sources for most of us, though.


I live about half a mile from the Leeds Liverpool canal (Thackley on the map) & said ther same thing. I
spent a lot of my youth knocking about & around the canal & river. Great place & it takes you to &
through some great places.

Superb for bike riding & just taking it easy.

Nige

--

Subaru WRX
Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!


 
Nige wrote:

||| travelling steadily I reckon Edward II gets almost 20 to the
||| gallon, but there are a heck of a lot of 20s between here and
||| Greece.
||
||
|| I reckon sommething similar with a caravan on the back, maybe a bit
|| less!!!

Sorry, Nige, but my figures were 16-17mpg normal driving, 14 max with the
caravan behind. That's with a steady 300-mile motorway run. Short runs,
hilly country - 11/12-ish.

--
Rich
==============================

I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> Nige wrote:
>
>>>> travelling steadily I reckon Edward II gets almost 20 to the
>>>> gallon, but there are a heck of a lot of 20s between here and
>>>> Greece.
>>>
>>>
>>> I reckon sommething similar with a caravan on the back, maybe a bit
>>> less!!!
>
> Sorry, Nige, but my figures were 16-17mpg normal driving, 14 max with the
> caravan behind. That's with a steady 300-mile motorway run. Short runs,
> hilly country - 11/12-ish.


Yikes!!!
--

Subaru WRX
Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!


 
Nige wrote:

|| Richard Brookman wrote:
||| Nige wrote:
|||
|||||| travelling steadily I reckon Edward II gets almost 20 to the
|||||| gallon, but there are a heck of a lot of 20s between here and
|||||| Greece.
|||||
|||||
||||| I reckon sommething similar with a caravan on the back, maybe a
||||| bit less!!!
|||
||| Sorry, Nige, but my figures were 16-17mpg normal driving, 14 max
||| with the caravan behind. That's with a steady 300-mile motorway
||| run. Short runs, hilly country - 11/12-ish.
||
||
|| Yikes!!!

If that's a shock, Nige, what are you getting in normal day-to-day running -
or haven't you dared calculate that yet? If you get better than 17, you
must be driving in bare feet or something.

Without towing, best ever was about 22, on a long motorway run at 60-ish, CC
doing all the work. I did see 6.3 after a short off-road section! The
14mpg was over about 1000 miles on holiday in France, keeping to legal
limits.

To be honest, I was happy with that. The 4.6 tows so well the extra money
was worth it. I've never believed people who say that their vehicle is so
good they never know the trailer/caravan is there - you know it's there all
right as acceleration is affected considerably, even with that engine. But
the ability to pull from 60 to 80 for a short while to clear a load of
French trucks and get some clear road is well worth the odd extra stop for
"essence".

--
Rich
==============================

I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> Nige wrote:
>
>>> Richard Brookman wrote:
>>>> Nige wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> travelling steadily I reckon Edward II gets almost 20 to the
>>>>>>> gallon, but there are a heck of a lot of 20s between here and
>>>>>>> Greece.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I reckon sommething similar with a caravan on the back, maybe a
>>>>>> bit less!!!
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Nige, but my figures were 16-17mpg normal driving, 14 max
>>>> with the caravan behind. That's with a steady 300-mile motorway
>>>> run. Short runs, hilly country - 11/12-ish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yikes!!!
>
> If that's a shock, Nige, what are you getting in normal day-to-day running -
> or haven't you dared calculate that yet? If you get better than 17, you
> must be driving in bare feet or something.
>
> Without towing, best ever was about 22, on a long motorway run at 60-ish, CC
> doing all the work. I did see 6.3 after a short off-road section! The
> 14mpg was over about 1000 miles on holiday in France, keeping to legal
> limits.
>
> To be honest, I was happy with that. The 4.6 tows so well the extra money
> was worth it. I've never believed people who say that their vehicle is so
> good they never know the trailer/caravan is there - you know it's there all
> right as acceleration is affected considerably, even with that engine. But
> the ability to pull from 60 to 80 for a short while to clear a load of
> French trucks and get some clear road is well worth the odd extra stop for
> "essence".


I get above 15 even round town, a run to say Norwich at a steady 60 will get 23-24 without a bother. I
don't drive it hard, I have a 230BHP Subaru for that!! Even then, i must be getting old as that never
breaks sweat now!!

I get it back on Tuesday too!!! All fettled & ready for action! Got tons of little bits to do, like new
air springs etc!!

Nige

--

Subaru WRX
Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!


 
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
>> 3 weeks!!! No chance for us!! 2 would be good enough!
>>
>
> 2 sounds good. 's like the thing I want to do, hire a canal boat and
> do the leeds-liverpool. You *could* do it in a week, but it becomes
> rather more of a challenge than a holiday. 3 weeks off is likeky to
> result in more hassle from other sources for most of us, though.

Right then, 2 weeks it is...

Lee



 
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
>> What are we going to do when we get there, or is the journey to be
>> the reward ?
>
> I think The Journey is the thing, on this kind of stuff. Trick is to
> get the overall pace right so that you can spend half a day here and
> there looking at things that look interesting.
>
> I'd love to do overland to India, one day, but I gather it's not very
> easy these days, compared with the 60s.

For me the trip is probably the Buzz.... also having so many green ovals
thundering down the Autoroute.
Sun would be a bonus... any thing else is luxury.

Would be rude not to seek out some scenic drives / mild laning given we all
want to drive back too. Any other suggestions... Beer BBQ's Chillin and of
course having gone all that way soaking up the Culture.

Lee


 
On or around Sat, 20 May 2006 22:33:21 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>funny about:
>>> What are we going to do when we get there, or is the journey to be
>>> the reward ?
>>
>> I think The Journey is the thing, on this kind of stuff. Trick is to
>> get the overall pace right so that you can spend half a day here and
>> there looking at things that look interesting.
>>
>> I'd love to do overland to India, one day, but I gather it's not very
>> easy these days, compared with the 60s.
>
>For me the trip is probably the Buzz.... also having so many green ovals
>thundering down the Autoroute.
>Sun would be a bonus... any thing else is luxury.
>
>Would be rude not to seek out some scenic drives / mild laning given we all
>want to drive back too. Any other suggestions... Beer BBQ's Chillin and of
>course having gone all that way soaking up the Culture.

I guess hauling the trailer and BBQ apparatus and about half a ton of
charcoal would be a possibility.
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Austin Shackles wrote:

> I guess hauling the trailer and BBQ apparatus and about half a ton of
> charcoal would be a possibility.

I am having fun experimenting with the fancy stoves mentioned by AJH a
couple of weeks back - might not need to bring charcoal, we can use
motorway fenceposts :))

Steve
 
If we go to, or via the Swiss mountains, or in fact any european
mountain areas, they are brilliant to visit in the summer as most of
the areas are set up for skiiing in the winter so in the summer the
people in these reigons crying out for trade and really look after you,
plus everything's about a third of the price and there's loads of room
and even the hotels are cheap if you fancy a break from the caravan or
tent.

I love Switzerland even if I did get fined once for having a "fight"
with a friend of mine in the middle of Geneva. They're a bit anal but
there's never any trouble and they know how to look after you despite
being such close neighbours with the French

Dave

 
Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> If we go to, or via the Swiss mountains

<snip>

I really really really NEED to visit Switzerland and would like to stop
there to soak up some culture, I've even toyed with a winter holiday with
the Caravan but got put off once I viewed a few caravans up to there windows
in snow.

Lee


 
Lee_D wrote:

|| Dave R <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
||| If we go to, or via the Swiss mountains
||
|| <snip>
||
|| I really really really NEED to visit Switzerland and would like to
|| stop there to soak up some culture, I've even toyed with a winter
|| holiday with the Caravan but got put off once I viewed a few
|| caravans up to there windows in snow.
||
|| Lee

Switzerland has scenery, not culture :)

--
Rich
==============================

I don't approve of signatures, so I don't have one.


 
Richard Brookman wrote:

>
> Switzerland has scenery, not culture :)

What about in its cheeses - Emmenthal must have culture to get the bubbles.

Lizzy

 
Lizzy Taylor wrote:

|| Richard Brookman wrote:
||
|||
||| Switzerland has scenery, not culture :)
||
|| What about in its cheeses - Emmenthal must have culture to get the
|| bubbles.
||
|| Lizzy

Well, yes, that sort of culture :)

For the usual kind, well: Roger Federer, Carl Jung, Rousseau, Zwingli, and
....

A tennis player, two philosophers and a Protestant theologian. Not many
novelists, poets, composers, artists, sculptors, dramatists. No Swiss Oscar
Wilde or Beethoven. But Switzerland does give good mountain and brilliant
chocolate. This year's trip to Italy will include a whizz through
Switzerland just for the alpine meadows, while trying to avoid the 40 quid
vignette for use of the motorways.

--
Rich
==============================

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Anyhow, yon Venice ferry goes all the way to Corfu. I've always rather
fancied that - "my family and other animals" an all.....

Steve
 
Steve <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Anyhow, yon Venice ferry goes all the way to Corfu. I've always rather
> fancied that - "my family and other animals" an all.....
>
> Steve

Steve, gerrus a price for 101 and then for Disco and 6.7 m caravan to give
us an idea.

Corfu.... h'mmmm... how long is the crossing I wonder?

Lee


 
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