G Reg 200 Disco Engine Prob

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Hi All,

I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day

I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust

Any Info Please

Regards

Jb


 

"Office" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi All,
>
> I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day
>
> I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
> I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
> Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust
>
> Any Info Please
>
> Regards
>
> Jb

Probably a blown head gasket allowing oil into the combustion chamber. Needs
to have the head off for investigation. How did you stop it in the end?
TonyB
>
>


 
The Engine Stopped Its Self & It Still Starts At Low
Revs & Then Miss Fires with Blue Smoke Out of
Exhaust

Regards

Jb


..
>
> "Office" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day
>>
>> I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
>> I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
>> Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust
>>
>> Any Info Please
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jb
>
> Probably a blown head gasket allowing oil into the combustion chamber.
> Needs
> to have the head off for investigation. How did you stop it in the end?
> TonyB
>>
>>
>
>


 

"Office" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Engine Stopped Its Self & It Still Starts At Low
> Revs & Then Miss Fires with Blue Smoke Out of
> Exhaust

kept on revin faster and faster till it stoped?


 
On or around Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:28:07 -0000, "Office" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Hi All,
>
>I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day
>
>I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
>I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
>Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust
>

it's eaten it's oil - not a very common fault on the TDi - the old turbo-D
was more prone to this. something allows engine oil in copious quantities
into the combustion chambers and it then runs away. check the oil level,
bet you find it ain't got one.

You can in fact get this result from seriously overfilling it with oil, I
expect.

the other symptoms point to a head gasket or such-like failure, or possibly
a holed piston. either way it's apt to be head-off time.

 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> On or around Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:28:07 -0000, "Office" <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day
> >
> >I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
> >I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
> >Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust
> >
>
> it's eaten it's oil - not a very common fault on the TDi - the old turbo-D
> was more prone to this. something allows engine oil in copious quantities
> into the combustion chambers and it then runs away. check the oil level,
> bet you find it ain't got one.
>
> You can in fact get this result from seriously overfilling it with oil, I
> expect.
>
> the other symptoms point to a head gasket or such-like failure, or
possibly
> a holed piston. either way it's apt to be head-off time.
>
Surely a turbo failure is the most likely candidate?


 
If Turbo Trouble ? Would Engine Run At Low Rev's
& When Higher Smoke & Miss Fire With Clouds Of
Smoke From Exhaust

Regards

Jb

-----------------------------------------------------

"SimonJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
>> On or around Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:28:07 -0000, "Office" <[email protected]>
>> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >Hi All,
>> >
>> >I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day
>> >
>> >I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
>> >I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
>> >Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust
>> >
>>
>> it's eaten it's oil - not a very common fault on the TDi - the old
>> turbo-D
>> was more prone to this. something allows engine oil in copious
>> quantities
>> into the combustion chambers and it then runs away. check the oil level,
>> bet you find it ain't got one.
>>
>> You can in fact get this result from seriously overfilling it with oil, I
>> expect.
>>
>> the other symptoms point to a head gasket or such-like failure, or
> possibly
>> a holed piston. either way it's apt to be head-off time.
>>
> Surely a turbo failure is the most likely candidate?
>
>


 
>>
> Surely a turbo failure is the most likely candidate?
>

Head gasket failure is very common, an oil way
leaking into a cylinder will produce these symptoms.

Jeff


 
Office vaguely muttered something like ...
> If Turbo Trouble ? Would Engine Run At Low Rev's
> & When Higher Smoke & Miss Fire With Clouds Of
> Smoke From Exhaust

That's exactly what happened on a (company car) Nissan Bluebird Turbo ZX I
blew a turbo on .. with a distinct lack of power too .. ;)

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
(8(|) Homer Rules !!!


 
In message <[email protected]>
"Office" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have Problem With My G reg Disco to Day
>
> I Started the engine & Smoke Pored out & When
> I Tried to stop the engine it Kept on Revving With
> Blue Smoke Coming out of Exhaust
>
> Any Info Please
>
> Regards
>
> Jb
>
>

A common problem, but usually not too drastic, The head gasket has
gone (usually No.4 Cylinder), blowing straight into one of the
push rod tubes and "pumping" the oil into the inlet side of
things. If you managed to stop it before it had got through all
the oil, no other damage will have been done and a new (they are
modified to prevent the problem) head gasket will fix the job.
If it ran until there was no more oil, it *may* well be ok,
but the engine will need a health check.

BTW, if it happens to you : Stop the vehicle (you can actually
"drive" a bit to a safe place) - clutch in (obviously!),
engage 5th, handbrake on, drop the clutch (just take your foot off
it) and it *will* stall, just allow a few feet in front as it will
obviously lurch forward a foot or two. If your handbrake doesn't
work you could go up against a solid object, but you'd be much
better off fixing the handbrake!

Richard

--
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On or around Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:45:40 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>A common problem, but usually not too drastic, The head gasket has
>gone (usually No.4 Cylinder), blowing straight into one of the
>push rod tubes and "pumping" the oil into the inlet side of
>things. If you managed to stop it before it had got through all
>the oil, no other damage will have been done and a new (they are
>modified to prevent the problem) head gasket will fix the job.
>If it ran until there was no more oil, it *may* well be ok,
>but the engine will need a health check.
>
>BTW, if it happens to you : Stop the vehicle (you can actually
>"drive" a bit to a safe place) - clutch in (obviously!),
>engage 5th, handbrake on, drop the clutch (just take your foot off
>it) and it *will* stall, just allow a few feet in front as it will
>obviously lurch forward a foot or two. If your handbrake doesn't
>work you could go up against a solid object, but you'd be much
>better off fixing the handbrake!

you can do it with the footbrake, of course. But you might find out how
good your clutch is instead.

if you have access to the engine bay in time, you can apparently stop it by
blocking the intake.

 
> if you have access to the engine bay in time, you can apparently stop it
by
> blocking the intake.
>
A CO2 fire extinguisher will stop it. (so will a water one, but that will
stop it permanently!)


 
On or around Tue, 7 Dec 2004 01:07:28 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>> if you have access to the engine bay in time, you can apparently stop it
>by
>> blocking the intake.
>>
>A CO2 fire extinguisher will stop it. (so will a water one, but that will
>stop it permanently!)

now there's a thought. let it off into the intake? wonder if halon works
equally well?



 
Austin Shackles wrote:

> now there's a thought. let it off into the intake? wonder if halon works
> equally well?

Should do, same method, eliminate oxygen = no ignition. What are you
thinking ? emergency kill switch ?

Steve
 
On or around Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:31:20 +0000, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> now there's a thought. let it off into the intake? wonder if halon works
>> equally well?
>
>Should do, same method, eliminate oxygen = no ignition. What are you
>thinking ? emergency kill switch ?

's a thought, innit. optional extra for engines that are prone to it,
although I'd not numbered the TDi in that set, in fact. The ones I've heard
of doing this trick were the TD and also heard of it in old taxi engines.

 
On Tuesday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Austin Shackles" wrote:

> On or around Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:31:20 +0000, Steve Taylor
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Austin Shackles wrote:
> >
> >> now there's a thought. let it off into the intake? wonder if halon works
> >> equally well?
> >
> >Should do, same method, eliminate oxygen = no ignition. What are you
> >thinking ? emergency kill switch ?
>
> 's a thought, innit. optional extra for engines that are prone to it,
> although I'd not numbered the TDi in that set, in fact. The ones I've heard
> of doing this trick were the TD and also heard of it in old taxi engines.

I'm not sure if halon would work -- the temperature and pressure in a
compression ignition engine might affect the chemistry. It doesn't just
displace the oxygen as CO2 does.

Besides, is it even legal any more?

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

Wrought under license granted by Her Majesty's Apostropher Royal AD MMIV
 
On or around Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:18:14 +0000 (GMT),
[email protected] ("David G. Bell") enlightened us thusly:

>
>I'm not sure if halon would work -- the temperature and pressure in a
>compression ignition engine might affect the chemistry. It doesn't just
>displace the oxygen as CO2 does.
>
>Besides, is it even legal any more?

nope. But since when does that stop us?

 


Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:18:14 +0000 (GMT),
> [email protected] ("David G. Bell") enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>I'm not sure if halon would work -- the temperature and pressure in a
>>compression ignition engine might affect the chemistry. It doesn't just
>>displace the oxygen as CO2 does.
>>
>>Besides, is it even legal any more?
>
>
> nope. But since when does that stop us?
>

....and at least the stuff works.

Outside the world of business this is another regulation that is
unenforceable. I'm not giving mine up and there are still people around
who will provide displaced functional units.

 
> >
> >>I'm not sure if halon would work -- the temperature and pressure in a
> >>compression ignition engine might affect the chemistry. It doesn't just
> >>displace the oxygen as CO2 does.
> >>
> >>Besides, is it even legal any more?
> >
> >
> > nope. But since when does that stop us?
> >
It's illegal to use it now and it should be disposed of via a special
company. Ownership is not yet an offence however.

Disposal may present problems - I found some asbestos in my garden and took
it to a company for disposal. They weighed my Disco in and out and said it
would cost £650 for just over a ton of asbestos. Fortunately they then
noticed that the front wheels of the Disco were off the weighbridge and the
price dropped to 40 quid once I'd backed up a bit. FWIW an empty Disco two
up with half a tank weighed 2.2 tonnes.

TonyB


 
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